TranceAddict Forums (www.tranceaddict.com/forums)
- Music Discussion
-- Is Trance Dead?
Pages (4): « 1 2 3 [4]

Come on, don't you ever get tired of trance? After tune after tune of formulaeic bullshit "this is the new hard trance tune", "this is the new Silence" as you all blind yourself to the fact that every single tune these days is exactly the same as the last, as more and more major producers begin to slip as we reach the point where there is no originality left. Since 2001 its all been the same, rising artists are either crap or they copied old styles. Frankly I can't see anything new on the horizon and flame me as you will, I don't care, its still true.

I've given up. I haven't bought a new release since June, I've been going back to old techno and hardcore records, looking at something that while it's old is refreshing. Trance hasn't died in terms of supporters, of sales, of size, its died in regards of creativity, and the worst part is we've turned away from it, refused to accept it, built a wall around it so solid that we can't even see it anymore.

quote:

Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Come on, don't you ever get tired of trance? After tune after tune of formulaeic bullshit "this is the new hard trance tune", "this is the new Silence" as you all blind yourself to the fact that every single tune these days is exactly the same as the last, as more and more major producers begin to slip as we reach the point where there is no originality left. Since 2001 its all been the same, rising artists are either crap or they copied old styles. Frankly I can't see anything new on the horizon and flame me as you will, I don't care, its still true. I've given up. I haven't bought a new release since June, I've been going back to old techno and hardcore records, looking at something that while it's old is refreshing. Trance hasn't died in terms of supporters, of sales, of size, its died in regards of creativity, and the worst part is we've turned away from it, refused to accept it, built a wall around it so solid that we can't even see it anymore.

very philosophic...yet inaccurate..but you are entitled to your opinion.

BTW i can also see that you have been a member on ta for a long time(sic)



Mizzuno

quote:

Originally posted by mizzuno this thread is so classic,i remember threads very similar to this in 2001 when progressive came around....i wish there was some originality here. Fact of the matter is trance is not dead there are many young artists up and coming, to be honest this is classic alarmist BS. Go look through the other dumb trance is dead threads from back in the day....2002 came along and poof trance is the shit again. You guys really need to open your horizons past 2 weeks... MizzzUNO

you know what mizz, i think you have to accept the fact that this is not "back in the day" anylonger...you have to stop being nostalgic and face it..this is the current ta now!!!! sad to say but it's true


indy

quote:

Originally posted by mizzuno very philosophic...yet inaccurate..but you are entitled to your opinion. BTW i can also see that you have been a member on ta for a long time(sic) Mizzuno

Not being a member of the forum for long doesn't mean you haven't been keeping up with the scene, and that I have no experience of trance music for the past few years.

quote:

Originally posted by politicsofdancin you know what mizz, i think you have to accept the fact that this is not "back in the day" anylonger...you have to stop being nostalgic and face it..this is the current ta now!!!! sad to say but it's true indy

I'm not quite sure how you figure that i'm still living back in the day, in fact i was referring to a thread that was created long before you ever posted in these forums. The simple fact is the death of trance has been heralded before and the naysayers were proven wrong, this thread is no different.

Sorry you feel left out..


Mizzuno

quote:

Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Not being a member of the forum for long doesn't mean you haven't been keeping up with the scene, and that I have no experience of trance music for the past few years.

Fair enough, but your statement that rising artists are either crap or copiers is at the very least innacurate and at worst pure BS.

Mizz

quote:

Originally posted by mizzuno Fair enough, but your statement that rising artists are either crap or copiers is at the very least innacurate and at worst pure BS. Mizz

Everyone is entitled to their opinion in the end, but i have to agree with mizzuno on this one.

Also, i was going to say this earlier, but changed my mind after writing it.

Charts, generally, mean crap. If you go by Charts, then Trance was essentially dead here after Darude - Sandstorm hit (I don't even think Heaven made it out here). And by saying that Scooter made it big in the chart, you prove my point. The charts you are referring to, to me, represent the commercial trance scene. If you want a good representation of electronic, you need to stay underground.

quote:

Originally posted by mizzuno Fair enough, but your statement that rising artists are either crap or copiers is at the very least innacurate and at worst pure BS. Mizz

I haven't heard a genuinely fresh track from er... anyone for over a year, and certainly not a rising artist. Now that may be bull to you, but it's experience to me. Name me some tracks that have actually brought something new to the table.

And this phobia of the charts is idiotic, and frankly is what is killing trance. If more records made it to the mainstream there'd be more money pumped into the scene, more exploration and longer life. You're just plain stupid if you think that a track is crap purely because it has sold lots.

quote:

Originally posted by SYSTEM-J And this phobia of the charts is idiotic, and frankly is what is killing trance. If more records made it to the mainstream there'd be more money pumped into the scene, more exploration and longer life. You're just plain stupid if you think that a track is crap purely because it has sold lots.

Please don't put words in my mouth. No where did i say that because it makes it to a chart automatically makes it crap. No where did i say that because it is commercial trance it is crap. I said that charts mean crap and really only represent (like you said) what the general population wants to here. There is a difference. When good commercial trance is released, then i'd buy it.

I happen to like ATB - 9pm ('till i come) and ATB - Don't Stop (They also helped me get into the scene) and didn't they make it in the charts? I own ATB's Movin' Melodies CD and still listen to it.

quote:

Originally posted by SYSTEM-J I haven't heard a genuinely fresh track from er... anyone for over a year, and certainly not a rising artist. Now that may be bull to you, but it's experience to me. Name me some tracks that have actually brought something new to the table.

Traffic, Nyana, Faithfulness & Street Spirit remixes---all fresh, all genuine, all unique, all innovative, all anti-formulaic.

Well done, now go back and think about it.

quote:

Originally posted by SYSTEM-J I haven't heard a genuinely fresh track from er... anyone for over a year, and certainly not a rising artist. Now that may be bull to you, but it's experience to me. Name me some tracks that have actually brought something new to the table.

What exactly would you define as "fresh"?

I'd like to refer you to Ricky Fobis - No Regular.

quote:

Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Well done, now go back and think about it.

I'd like to see you tweaking an Access Virus C or a Novation Supernova and then we'll talk about who's producing refreshing trance.

So you're saying that these tracks are doing something totally new, something that breaks new ground and has genuinely never been done before. The last really groundbreaking artist was Public Domain, mixing togethor breakbeats, rapping, 4/4 beats, hard house elements, trance... When a Public Domain tune comes on you can tell its by them, cos it's hard hop or whatever they call it, it hasn't been done before. You're talking about music that sounds new and different, but is still made from the same ingrediants and can be placed in pre-made boundries.

A few years ago they were still writing the trance book, and hard house was being created from scratch. Until very recently there were tracks that didn't follow any rules, didn't use breakdowns as we know them, did stuff that was experimental, like Mauro Picotto's Lizard. There's nothing like that now.

blah blah blah blah

who cares...there's been so many great tracks this year and i'm loving it

i cant wait till uplifting cheesey trance with those 303 nu-nrg esque strings dies. fuckin yuck

quote:

Originally posted by YaleTrance Nyana, fresh, unique, innovative, all anti-formulaic.

Subtle by Design - sirius



I somewhat like some of the others you mentioned (street spirit remix is very cool), but for the most part melodic/uplifting these days feels to me like the artists are recycling the same stuff over and over again.

quote:

Originally posted by Mr.Mystery I think this is the second time this year it's died, actually.

quote:

Originally posted by Maaz Goa is trance, progressive trance is trance, nrg is trance, hardstyle is trance, psy-trance is trance, trance breaks is trance, hard trance is trance.... ... just because epic trance is losing its glamour among some people, it doesn't mean the whole genre is dying. The sound may be changing, but art's not static

Well said. Epic/melodic is pretty dead, but you can't forget about other subgenres. Listen to stuff by james talk or yunus, and you'll see what I mean.

quote:

Originally posted by dj_moonshine i mostly listen to trance that was made in 2000-2001. not alot of good new stuff coming out these days, but im sure it will grow.

Nope.

See how that's living in the past though? Not that there's anything wrong with listening to old stuff, but if you're a DJ or producer you want to stay on the cutting edge.

Powered by: vBulletin
Copyright © 2000-2021, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.