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| Originally posted by DaveSaenz In the time of Jesus Canabinoid oils were used for anointing and as "healing" oils. |
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| Originally posted by djSlain is that for real, or am i buying into something else again??? |
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| Originally posted by djSlain is that for real, or am i buying into something else again??? |
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| Cannabis linked to Biblical healing Many of the miracles concerned healing Jesus Christ and his apostles may have used a cannabis-based anointing oil to help cure people with crippling diseases, it has been claimed. Researchers in the United States say the oil used in the early days of the Christian church contained a cannabis extract called kaneh-bosem. They suggest the extract, which is absorbed into the body when placed on the skin, could have helped cure people with a variety of physical and mental problems. The medical use of cannabis during that time is supported by archaeological records Chris Bennet The author of the article, published in the US drugs magazine High Times, says his findings are based on a study of scriptural texts. Wide use The article does not question the validity of the miracles reported in the Bible but rather examines whether the early Christian Church may have made use of substances with an active medical effect. It does not rule out the role played by blind faith in Christ. Chris Bennett said cannabis was widely used at the time to heal the sick. "The medical use of cannabis during that time is supported by archaeological records." He said the ancient anointing oil contained high levels of cannabis extract. "The holy anointing oil, as described in the original Hebrew version of the recipe in Exodus, contained over six pounds of keneh-bosum - a substance identified by respected etymology, linguists anthropologists, botanists and other researchers as cannabis extracted into about six quarts of olive oil along with a variety of other fragrant herbs. "The ancient annointed ones were literally drenched in this potent mixture." Miracles Mr Bennett suggested the drug may have played a role in some healing miracles carried out by Jesus and his disciples. He wrote: "In the ancient world, diseases such as epilepsy were attributed to demonic possession. "To cure somebody of such an illness, even with the aid of certain herbs was considered exorcism or miraculous healing. Jesus often becomes the final hope for the pharmacologically impaired JesusJournal.com "Interestingly, cannabis has been shown to be effective in the treatment of not only epilepsy but many of the other ailments that Jesus and the disciples healed people of such as skin diseases, eye problems and menstrual problems." Mr Bennett said the findings suggested that it was unchristian to persecute people who used cannabis. "If cannabis was one of the main ingredients of the ancient Christian anointing oil, as history indicates, and receiving this oil is what made Jesus the Christ and his followers Christians, then persecuting those who use cannabis could be considered anti-Christ." However, Christian groups in the United States have rejected Mr Bennett's claims. They have insisted that the arguments made in the article are lame. In a response to the article published on JesusJournal.com, critics said: "As many of us know firsthand, Jesus often becomes the final hope for the pharmacologically impaired." John Cunyus, the author of a book on Christian healing, said: "Well, the Bible does say that St. Stephen was stoned... but perhaps not in that sense!" |
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| Originally posted by DaveSaenz I shouldn't have stated it as fact, but there is strong evidence of it's usage in biblical times. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/2633187.stm Here is a fact though: Cannabis has much greater potential (known) therapeutic properties in ailing patients than either tobacco or alcohol; both legal drugs. It makes no sense at all that cancer, AIDS, and other patients that could benefit from this kind of therapy should be denied this promising meathod of treatment to fit some kind of closed-minded, moralistic ideology. Oddly enough these people who oppose medicinal marijuana use of any kind often call themselves "Christians." |
Well here that link i promised 
Im sure some of the names here will surprise people.
http://www.slatts.fsworld.co.uk/famous.htm
Almost everyones name is linked to more info on the site, so if u dont believe it about someone or whatever click their link. Also theres a couple of links to similar lists.
Aaron Sorkin, creator of ''The West Wing".
Abbie Hoffman, Activist.
Al and Tipper Gore Politicians
Aleister Crowley, Author and Famous Satanist.
Alexander Dumas, Author - "The Three Musketeers"
Ali Campbell, Singer with UB40
Alice B. Toklas. Famous Cook - Wrote recipe for Hash Fudge Filmed as. 'I Love You Alice B. Toklas'
Allen Ginsberg, Poet.
Andrea Corr, musician, "The Corrs".
Anjelica Huston, Actress.
Arnold Schwarzenegger. Actor. ``I did smoke a joint and I did inhale.''
Arthur Rimbaud.
Balzac.
Beatles.
Benjamin Franklin, Many claims but little proof.
Bill "...but I didn't inhale." Clinton, Politician.
Bill Gates. Not confirmed, just very strongly hinted at in his Playboy interview.
Bill Murray Arrested for possession.
Bing Crosby. Famous crooner of "I'm dreaming of a White Christmas". Now the Film "High Society" makes sense!
Bix Beiderbecke Jazz musician.
Black Crowes, musicians
Bob Denver, Star of "Gilligan's Island".
Bob Dylan, musician.
Bob Marley, musician
Burt Reynolds, actor. He left his first wife because of her drug use. But he has been seen in Cannabis Cafes.
Bruce Lee.
Cab Calloway, Jazz musician. Claimed he only used it once.
Carl Sagan, Scientist - SiFi writer - film "Contact" More info here.
Carlos Santana musician.
Carrie Fischer, Actress
Charlie Sheen, actor.
Charles Beaudelaire, Author.
Cheech Marin, Actor, Don Johnson's sidekick in the TV detective series "Nash Bridges."
Chris Conrad, Author and expert on Cannabis Hemp
Chris Farley. Comedian.
Chrissie Hynde, musician.
Chris Rock, Actor, Comedian, Producer, Screenwriter.
Chubby Checker, Musician. Sang; "Lets Twist Again".
Cilla Black, Musician and presenter. Tried it in the '60's but didn't like it.
Claire Rayner, Agony Aunt.
Conan O'Brian TV Host
Count Basie, Jazz Ban Leader. He was on an DEA file of marajuana users.
Dame Margot Fonteyn, Prima ballerina. Also see entries for Rudolf Nureyev.
David Bailey, Photographer .
Dan Quayle . Politician.
David Hockney, Artist.
Diego Rivera Mexican Artist
Dion Fortune Welsh occultist.
Dionne Warwick, Famous singer of "Walk on by".
Dioscorides Pedanius, 1 st cent. AD. Greek physician. Wrote 'De Materia Medica', used for 1,500 years.
Dizzy Gillespie, Jazz musician He was on an DEA file of marajuana users.
Dr Francis Crick. Nobel Prize winner.
Dr Lester Grinspoon.
Dr R.D.Laing
Dr W.B. O'Shaugnessy Re-introduced cannabis to European medicine.
Drew Barrymore, actress.
Duke Ellington, Jazz Band Leader. He was on an DEA file of marajuana users.
Elliott Gould. Actor.
Eminem, musician.
Emperor Liu Chi-nu, made medical recomendation for its use.
Emperor Shen-Nung, made first known medical recommendation for its use.
Errol Flynn, Actor
Evelyn Waugh. Author.
Francis Ford Coppella, Film Director. Mentioned in "Easy Riders, Raging Bulls" by Peter Biskind
Fats Waller, musician.
Fitz Hugh Ludlow - wrote 'The Hasheesh Eater'.
Francois Rabelais. 16 th French author. Recommended it as a food not a high.
Friedrich Nietzsche, Used it as a medicine.
Gary Johnson. Governor of New Mexico - Reformer.
Gene Krupa, Jazz musician.
George Gurdjieff , Russian Mystic.
George W Bush Politician and professional hypocrite.
George Melly, Jazz musician.
George Soros, Financier and reformer.
George Washington , grew it and there is evidence that he prepared it for smoking.
And incidentally many other US presidents use to smoke Hemp.
Thomas Jefferson.
James Madison.
James Monroe.
Andrew Jackson,
Zachary Taylor.
Franklin Pierce.
Also see entries for Bill Clinton and George Bush.
Gerard de Nerval French writer
Graham Greene, Author.
Grateful Dead musicians.
Harrison Ford, Actor. This is a claim made by Bill Maher that has not been denied.
Hasan I-Sabah (Hasan-bin-Sabah) Leader of the Assassins.
Heinrich Khunrath, Medieval Alchemist. and Philosopher.
Helena Petrovna Blavatsky. Russian Theosophist.
Henri Michaux poet and painter
Howard Marks. Ex-smuggler and Raconteur.
H R H Prince Harry, Third in line to the British throne.
H R H Princess Margaret, sister to Her Majesty the Queen. Her son disputes the claim.
Howard Stern, admitted it on the radio.
Hua T'o Medical use as anaesthetic .
Hunter S. Thompson, Author
Isabel Allende, Chilean author. Mentioned in her book "Paula".
Jack Kerouac, Author
Jack Nicholson, actor.
Jackie Gleason, actor. Another whom the DEA kept on their pot files.
James Brown, musician
Janis Joplin, musician. Tried it but "... she didn't like marijuana, it gave her the jitters."
Jane Fonda, Actress.
Jennifer Aniston, actress. "I enjoy smoking cannabis and see no harm in it", Daily Mail, 11/9/01.
Jennifer Capriati, Tennis champ.
Jesse Ventura, Governor of Minnesota.
Jesus Christ. 'healed using cannabis'.
Jim Morrison, musician.
Jimmy Dorsey, Jazz musician, He was on an DEA file of marijuana users.
Jimmy Hendrix, musician
Joan of Arc, was accused of using witch herbs (another name for cannabis).
John Belushi, actor. Perhaps not a particularly good role model!
John Denver, musician. He recorded a song about it.
John F Kennedy. Politician.
John Lennon. musician.
John Le Mesurier. Actor. Tried it but said it's not for him.
John Wayne, Actor, "I tried it once but it didn't do anything to me."
Jonathan Miller, Theatre Director.
Johnny Cash, musician. Sang songs for NORML album.
Jon Snow, Channel 4 News presenter. (UK)
Julia Roberts, Actress, "I smoked dope twice," ..." It made me too sleepy..."
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, legendary Los Angeles Lakers Basketball star
Kary Mullis, Nobel Laurate, Biology. Is on NORML Board of directors.
Ken Kesey, Author of "One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest" (1975)
Kenneth Tynan, Playwright.
Kurt Cobain, musician.
Larry Hagman, actor, of "JR" fame.
Led Zeppelin, musicians.
Lenny Bruce, Comedian.
Lewis Carroll, Author
Lewis Wolpert, biologist.
Little Richard, musician.
Louis Armstrong, Jazz musician. The 'bust' in his own words.
Luke Perry, actor.
Louis Hebert, French Botanist
Mark Stepnoski. two-time Super Bowl champ, Dallas Cowboy.
Mick Jagger, musician
Mike Bloomberg. New York City Mayor.
Mike Tyson, Boxer.
Miles Davis, Jazz musician.
Milton Berle, Actor another one on the DEA list of smokers
Mo Mowlam, Minister recently in charge of UK drug policy.
Modigliani. Sculptor.
Montgomery Clift, actor, mentioned in his biography.
Neil Diamond, musician.
Neil Young, Musician.
Newt Gingrich Speaker of the US Senate.
Norman Mailer, Author.
Oasis, Noel Gallagher "smoking cannabis is as normal as having a cup of tea"
Ocean Colour Scene, "the hardest smoking band in music" Q Magazine. 02/02.
Oliver Stone, Film Director.
Oscar Wilde, Author. "Bosie and I have taken to hashish,"
Pablo Picasso, Artist.
Pancho Villa, Revolutionary Leader.
Peregrine Worthstone, former editor of the Sunday Telegraph.
Peter Fonda, actor. "I don't trust anybody who didn't inhale."
Peter Sellers, actor.
Peter Tosh, Poet.
Pierre Elliot Trudeau, Former Prime Minister of Canada.
Pink. Musician. Mentioned in Playboy interview (11/02).
Pink Floyd, Musicians.
P. J. O'Rouke. Author.
Pythagoras, Mathematician.
Queen Victoria.
Ram Dass, Philosopher.
Ray Charles, musician.
Richard Feynman, Nobel Prize Laureate physicist.
Richard Pryor, actor.
Robert Anton Wilson. Philosopher .
Robert Mitchum, Actor, was jailed in the 40s for possession of marijuana.
Rolling Stones, musicians.
Rosie Boycott, former Editor of the Daily Express and The Independent.
Ross Rebagliati, first ever snowboarding Gold Medallist, 1998 Winter Olympics.
Rudolf Nureyev, Ballet dancer. Also see entry for Margot Fonteyn.
Rudyard Kipling . Author.
Ryan Farrell, Australian Sprint Car champion.
Salvador Dali, Artist.
Samuel Beckett, Author.
Samuel Taylor Coleridge, Author.
Sidi-Hidi. Sacred religious figure of Morocco, believed to have brought cannabis to the Atlas.
Sinead O'Connor, musician.
Sir Paul McCartney, Musician.
Sir Mick Jagger, Musician. Of whom it was written; "Who breaks a butterfly on a wheel".
Snoop Dogg, musician.
Steve Martin , Actor.
Stephen King. Author, "Tommy Knockers".
Steve Jobs, co-creator of the Apple computer.
Steven Soderbergh, Film director.
Stephen Sondheim. Broadway composer and lyricist.
Sting / Gordon Sumners, musician.
Ted Turner, of CNN fame. This is a claim made by Bill Maher that has not been denied
Terence McKenna.
Terry Pratchett. Author of the "Diskworld" books. A bit of a cheeky claim perhaps, in that he did not object to being given a "cake".
The Who, musicians.
Thelonious Monk, Jazz musician.
Timothy Leary
Tomas Enge, Formula 3000 World Champion.
Tommy Chong. Actor with Cheech Marin in "Up in Smoke " - "Cheech & Chong".
Tommy Lee, Musician.
Tony Booth, the father-in-law of Britain's Prime Minister. Smoked it in No 10.
UB40, Band.
Victor Hugo. Author 'Les Mis�rables'
Walter 'Stumpy' Brennan actor.
Walter Benjamin, Philosopher.
Wesley Snipes, actor. Has been seen in Cannabis Cafes.
Whitney Houston, musician.
William Butler Yeats. Famous Irish Poet and Occultist.
William S. Burroughs, Author.
William Shakespeare. Dramatist. More here.
Willie Nelson, musician.
Woody Harrelson, Actor and reformer.
Zoroaster, Persian prophet.
Eight UK Conservative Shadow Cabinet Ministers as well as some Liberal and Labour MPs.
Most popular Musicians since the turn of the 20th century. Even the boys from S Club 7!
You will find it's use mentioned in the Bible.
And now we are told even Stone age man may have used it.
Pffft all those people are has-beens, good-for-nothings, or nobodies!
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| Originally posted by occrider Pffft all those people are has-beens, good-for-nothings, or nobodies! |
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| Originally posted by DJ-Fuq Firstly, not true. Secondly, thats irrelevant anyway. |
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| Originally posted by occrider Sorry, I forgot these: [sarcasm] [/sarcasm] |
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| Originally posted by DJ-Fuq Did u read the whole thread? Doesnt sound like it. Go and read what djslain was saying and ull find out why i posted it. |
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| Originally posted by occrider Whoops, I forgot these as well: [joke] [sarcasm] [/sarcasm] [/joke] There. Now it should be right. Since the list includes most US presidents I thought it was implied that it was a joke hehe. Chill out, I agree with you. |
okay, it sounds like there are some irrepairable epistemic differences suffered by this thread.
it's obvious drug use is not good for everyone, whether its because they have higher goals in life or their minds are incapable of expansive growth.. who knows?
they problem we're dealing with is that people are trying to force their personal feelings on the issue without regard of the fact that we all react differently to different stimuli. Some people smoke and burn out, while others smoke and produce pulitzer prize material. We supposidly live in a free society, so why can't we be free to make our own choices? even if they are mistakes?
dammit.
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| Originally posted by ResonantDrag okay, it sounds like there are some irrepairable epistemic differences suffered by this thread. it's obvious drug use is not good for everyone, whether its because they have higher goals in life or their minds are incapable of expansive growth.. who knows? they problem we're dealing with is that people are trying to force their personal feelings on the issue without regard of the fact that we all react differently to different stimuli. Some people smoke and burn out, while others smoke and produce pulitzer prize material. We supposidly live in a free society, so why can't we be free to make our own choices? even if they are mistakes? dammit. |
I really can't see the Gore family under suspicion of drug use. i mean, look at who was his 2nd in command, Leiberman. These three (al an tipper) gave us extensive info on offending material in films, video game ratings, and Columbine Ripple of minors being allowed to see R Rated movies. And a lot of those people died specifically from drugs, should they considered martyrs?
i've heard that the two most powerful people in the world are Bill Gates and the CEO of Novell and actually trade places many times in their ranks of power.
From what i've heard, Bill Gates was arrested once (his mugshot is somewhere around the net) for joyriding. They got caught and arrested. During the regular search, his friend had some drugs in his jacket, so they took them all in.
Can anyone confirm about the CEO of Novell and Cisco? These are the companies i hope to be getting into.
didn't hippies, like the Beatles, do a lot of drugs, along with the attitudes of rebellion? Where are they now? Jeopardy?
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lets clarify things a little here. I live in ontario and have been following things closely. First of all all that has happened if that the ontario court has found that charging ppl with small amounts of marijuana possession is unconstitutional and violate their rights. So police still confescate the drug and that's about it. now this is for small possesion. however the federal goverment has done no such thing. the bill is still being worked on. And this bill is to decriminalise marijuana. meaning you get caught with weed and you get a ticket. its like a driving ticket sort of, which means it doesn't go on your permenant record and your not considered a criminal like before. this law is still in the works. However even after this law will be passed, its still illigal to have large amounts of marijuana and to sell it. penalties for this may actually get stronger.
i think it should not just be decriminalised but also legalised. i used to smoke but don't bother or get around to it much anymore, which disprove you hole canada will be a bunch of pot-head theory. the stuff isn't very addictive or anything. Legalise because it is unconstitutional to tell ppl they can't do something that doesn't harm anyone else around them. If you wanna smoke then i say take my lighter.
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| Originally posted by djSlain didn't hippies, like the Beatles, do a lot of drugs, along with the attitudes of rebellion? Where are they now? Jeopardy? |
1 hippie out of 12 million?
aren't we going in circles?
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| Originally posted by djSlain aren't we going in circles? |
well, it's been going:
Look at my guy, he did drugs and hes successful
Look at my guy, he didn't do drugs and he's successful
Look at my guy, he did drugs and hes successful
Look at my guy, he didn't do drugs and he's successful
Look at my guy, he did drugs and hes successful
Look at my guy, he didn't do drugs and he's successful
Look at my guy, he did drugs and hes successful
Look at my guy, he didn't do drugs and he's successful
Look at my guy, he did drugs and hes successful
Look at my guy, he didn't do drugs and he's successful
Look at my guy, he did drugs and hes successful
Look at my guy, he didn't do drugs and he's successful
Look at my guy, he did drugs and hes successful
Look at my guy, he didn't do drugs and he's successful
Look at my guy, he did drugs and hes successful
Look at my guy, he didn't do drugs and he's successful
Look at my guy, he did drugs and hes successful
Look at my guy, he didn't do drugs and he's successful
and so on and on and on
Doesn't that show that its more about the person that if they have done drugs?
No it has gone like this.
You: Making stupid arguments about us saying marijuana makes people successful
Us: disagreeing with you because we never said anything close to that
You: bring up more stupid points
Us: destroying them
You: Fortune 500
You: Fortune 500
You: More stupid arguments
Us: Still winning
You: ??
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| Originally posted by UWM No it has gone like this. You: Making stupid arguments about us saying marijuana makes people successful Us: disagreeing with you because we never said anything close to that You: bring up more stupid points Us: destroying them You: Fortune 500 You: Fortune 500 You: More stupid arguments Us: Still winning You: ?? |
Well actually it goes like this:
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| Originally posted by DJ-Fuq Well here that link i promised Im sure some of the names here will surprise people. http://www.slatts.fsworld.co.uk/famous.htm |
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