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Look;
I don't really care whether you do drugs or not. Beatles did drugs and they've produced few of the most influential records of all time.

But all this drug talk... it just doesn't belong here.

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Originally posted by hooknife WOW, I really feel that the above sums it up. I think the place that the general population is going wrong is just a simple lack of knowledge about the drug, and the understand that ANYTHING used in moderation can be safe and enjoyable as long as it�s used in a responsible manner.

I'll jump on that band wagon as well. I think overdoing Ecstasy is just stupid--why waste what could truly be a good time? It's mostly the younger ones that get crazy with it--and pretty much for that reason I've opted to go the House "party" route rather than the club scene. There's something about the sight of "little" girls crippled in the corner that I just can't stand.

BTW, Disco is such a great dog.

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery Look; I don't really care whether you do drugs or not. Beatles did drugs and they've produced few of the most influential records of all time. But all this drug talk... it just doesn't belong here.

I totally agree with you Mr Mystery! This discussion doesn't belong to that forum.

Maybe some people think talking about doing drugs is cool....

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Originally posted by LilMissRaver1 BTW, Disco is such a great dog.

Thank you!!

Who said anything about cool? it's just a phenomenon associated with the music scene. Good or bad, I won't pass judgement on, but associated nevertheless, so the discussion very much belongs here I think.

Trancegirl: allthough there probably are some idiots who do drugs to "be cool" or get "fucked up", the majority are perfectly normal people who desire something extra from an allready good experience (ie a party).. Read around abit and you'll know that most people don't do drugs to be cool .

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Originally posted by Dan1584 The R.A.V.E. act was issued this year which gives the right for the police to shut down clubs and events which drug use is being conducted at. And for those of you who don't thinh this threat is real....the biggest club in the U.S., Club Space34 in Miami, Florida is now being forced to shut down their doors because of all the negative press about ecstasy use assosiated with clubs...they just shut down the biggest club in the U.S. because of ecstasy, this is real and this sucks expecially for all the non or ex-drug users who are trying to enjoy going out and having fun because drug users can't keep their drugs at home.

This mistake was the main reason why the rave act was passed (the researchers rushed to get this out just before the rave act was being considered):
http://mdma.net/toxicity/mixup.html

If anyone wants to see some drug statistics visit:
www.briancbennett.com

"On this site I use only the latest and most complete government statistics and reports to prove quite readily that we are being severely misdirected about the "drug problem" in America. I have turned all of the data into graphics which show quite conclusively the extent of the lies being told about drugs and drug users in America. I am using the exact same data sources that our government uses to "justify" waging this war against our fellow citizens. The difference is, that I tell you what they aren't telling us, and put the numbers into perspective."

And if u were wondering about the high amount of cannabis er visits in this pic..

look here: http://briancbennett.com/marijuana-ED.htm

Re: Ecstasy, Good or Bad?

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Originally posted by hooknife I'm curious about weather you feel it's messing the scene up or is it a good part of the experience for you. Just curious....

it's "whether" my dear.

If you need to get f00ked up on E, please go ahead. But, if you feel like you are going to kick the bucket, please take it outside the club and don't ruin my experience and the possibility of clubs being able to offer good DJ's in the future.

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Originally posted by drizzt81 it's "whether" my dear. If you need to get f00ked up on E, please go ahead. But, if you feel like you are going to kick the bucket, please take it outside the club and don't ruin my experience and the possibility of clubs being able to offer good DJ's in the future.

Its the government ruining it not the users

http://briancbennett.com/marijuana-ED.htm

So, 20% of users came in from overdose? That's pretty interesting, when it's nearly physically impossible to overdose on marijuana.

It's also done by someone at the US government. Besides, they said, "Mention of marijuana". That means someone could be speedballing, then they OD and get to the ER, and they ask, "What drugs have you done?", and they may happen to mention marijuana. 98% of those mentions are probably in connection with a drug not marijuana.

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Originally posted by DJ Nuclear http://briancbennett.com/marijuana-ED.htm So, 20% of users came in from overdose? That's pretty interesting, when it's nearly physically impossible to overdose on marijuana.

It is physically impossible.

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It's also done by someone at the US government.

It was done by brian bennett, a regular in the drug related usenet groups.

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Besides, they said, "Mention of marijuana". That means someone could be speedballing, then they OD and get to the ER, and they ask, "What drugs have you done?", and they may happen to mention marijuana. 98% of those mentions are probably in connection with a drug not marijuana.

Exactly, thats the point hes making with that page.

Edit: This is NOT an anti-drug site! And brian doesnt work for the us government, unless im very much mistaken.

Oops. It's that he used to work for the US Government.

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Originally posted by DJ Nuclear It's called the Reducing America's Vulnerability to Ecstasy Act, and you're too late because it already passed. The US government already has been using it to shutdown parties.

This one must be different, because the rave act im talking about was going to cancel all concerts and raves, not just trance/techno shows. Even rocks concerts. This hasn't passed because it was shot down....for now.

I personally think they should worry about drugs such as heroin and meth, before going out of their way to cancel shit because of E. You dont hear about a party getting cancelled because of the possibility of heroin or meth use.

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Originally posted by montie is it really drugs that are ruining the scene or is it crackpot politicians, who try to get votes by swaying over the uninformed masses by trying to prove that they are tough on drug use? using it as a scape goat? the drugs wouldn't be "ruining the scene" if it weren't for people trying to make them illigal and persecute the drug users. and yeah the pill you had probably contained some other drug besides MDMA which caused you to temporarily lose the ability to perspire, thus raising your body temp (is that what you said what happend?). thats the thing, people say ecstasy and assume what they are taking is MDMA. people need to be very careful with the pills they pop and be more clear when they talk about what ecstasy actually is.

yeah, i know for a fact that my pill had to have DXm or some other shit in it. No way was it pure MDMA. What's sad is that it seems to be really hard to find pure pills now. almost everything is shit. I guess that's what pill testing kits are for though.

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