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Posted by squirrelly on Dec-02-2003 21:45:

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Originally posted by WhoaNellie1487
Again, With this whole. " you're incorrect ". That's bull.

That's right,I have no intention of backing away/down.

-That's such a lie. Just because you can't prove points, or anyone else here can't you say " I'm incorrect " well. That'll be a cold day in you know where. Yes, I did say Diginut is Stubborn.

You should know by now that you don't post in the Political Forum unless you have information and sources to back up your claims.

Posted by WhoaNellie1487 on Dec-02-2003 21:45:

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Originally posted by anuneventrade
Obviously you also can't tell the difference between light hearted humor and true anger.

What do you think a religion is, Ms. Wise One? Ask anyone other than yourself. Christianity is a religion. It is even defined as one. Whether or not you choose to see it, is your choice.

Don't tell me about walking a mile in someone's shoes. Just because you think your life has been hard, doesn't mean that everyone else's has not been.

Getting a bit testy and demanding,don't you think?

It's hard to tell what you say,over the internet. Seeing as I can't hear your voice.

Religion, Is man made. I've told you several times before what I know it is.

Christianity isn't. Case closed. If you choose to believe differently,That's your problem. Not mine.

I didn't say everyone elses life wasn't hard, we all have our times. But, Don't be telling me Christianity is a religion.

I've been close to God,since I was VERY little..and I am EVEN more so now. If I were a religious folk,I wouldn't be the way I am.

I have a personal relationship,with God. Not some,man made,false religion. Simple as that.

Posted by WhoaNellie1487 on Dec-02-2003 21:46:

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Originally posted by anuneventrade
You should know by now that you don't post in the Political Forum unless you have information and sources to back up your claims.

I do,and I did. You just decided to read over them.

Oh,and futher more. I'm not a child, so don't address me as one. Understand? Understood.

Posted by squirrelly on Dec-02-2003 21:49:

Posted by squirrelly on Dec-02-2003 21:51:

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Originally posted by WhoaNellie1487
I do,and I did. You just decided to read over them.

Oh,and futher more. I'm not a child, so don't address me as one. Understand? Understood.

Your "sources" are your opinions.

And I never addressed you as a child. I simply stated a fact.

Posted by MisterOpus1 on Dec-02-2003 22:08:

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Originally posted by WhoaNellie1487
Getting a bit testy and demanding,don't you think?

It's hard to tell what you say,over the internet. Seeing as I can't hear your voice.

Religion, Is man made. I've told you several times before what I know it is.

Christianity isn't. Case closed. If you choose to believe differently,That's your problem. Not mine.

I didn't say everyone elses life wasn't hard, we all have our times. But, Don't be telling me Christianity is a religion.

I've been close to God,since I was VERY little..and I am EVEN more so now. If I were a religious folk,I wouldn't be the way I am.

I have a personal relationship,with God. Not some,man made,false religion. Simple as that.

Nellie, you're not making any sense here. Whether you want to believe it or not (and I'm assuming "not"), Christianity is a religion - by definition and by authority. I doubt too many priests, bishops, and ministers share your opinion that it isin't, let alone the dictionary itself.

Plugging your ears and singing "la la la la" isin't going to take away a fact. Sorry.

You're lacking a great deal of logic in this debate here, and it's becoming quite pointless to argue with you lest you start utilizing more logic. And yes, you are making false claims, as anuneventrade and others have clearly pointed out.

Supporting your assertions/opinions with evidence (i.e. facts, definitions, websites) would do much more credit.

Christianity, by definition, is man-made, as are all religions. Have you not studied the history of your religion? Since the burden of proof is upon you to show me otherwise, you'll have to cite evidence that it isin't man-made. Considering that the Books of the New Testament was written anywhere between 70-200 years AFTER the death of Christ BY MEN (oh yeah, Divine Inspiration, I know), and those Books written were selectively chosen into the Catholic Church (ex: Book of Thomas was thrown out), you're going to have to show some historical reference somehow that God Himself wrote them, and not man.

Please use references.

Posted by WhoaNellie1487 on Dec-02-2003 22:27:

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Originally posted by anuneventrade
I am not getting testy whatsoever. I just think that you make false claims. You have no information to back yourself up. I, have provided proof by even definitions that Christianity is a religion.

well,it sure seems as if you are. I have information,and I have provided such. Did you not see it??

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A religion is a combination of faith and relationships with God. Even if you have a closer relationship with God than others in your view, that does not mean you should denounce a religion.

It's not...But you will never see that, so case closed.

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Man made, false religion? Christianity is man made. As are all religions. And Christianity, is a religion. Look it up. Actually, you don't even have to. I provided you the definition.

Christianity isn't man made. It's So totally not man made.. Christian means " Christ like " it's the belief in God. No man made up God, or the belief in him.

I've already done my research,I need not further.

Posted by WhoaNellie1487 on Dec-02-2003 22:28:

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Originally posted by anuneventrade
Your "sources" are your opinions.

And I never addressed you as a child. I simply stated a fact.

I did,go back and look at my past posts. I already gave you information. Beyond my opinion.

Posted by squirrelly on Dec-02-2003 22:34:

WhoaNellie, I think maybe you should take on this subject with your priest. I highly doubt he is going to agree to the fact that what he preaches is not religion and faith.

Read above what Opus stated.

I am tired of arguing with someone who doesn't even realize that Christianity is a religion, even when provided with facts and proof. You haven't proved it is not. You stated your opinions that it is not. So far, not a single person agrees with you.

Kthxbye.

Posted by devonian rabbit on Dec-02-2003 23:04:

Its really pretty simple guys.

Calling it a "relationship, not a religion" is a euphamism for, "My religion is the correct one, so it can't be classified under the same word as all the other religions."

richard

Posted by DigiNut on Dec-02-2003 23:09:

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Originally posted by devonian rabbit
Its really pretty simple guys.

Calling it a "relationship, not a religion" is a euphamism for, "My religion is the correct one, so it can't be classified under the same word as all the other religions."

richard

This is exactly what I've been trying to point out.

WhoaNellie, you're totally confusing fact and personal opinion. You cite your personal opinion as fact, and you bash the cold hard facts as other people's opinions.

Try this: say exactly the opposite of everything you think you should say. Then you might make some sense.

Posted by Echo of Silence on Dec-03-2003 00:15:

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Originally posted by DigiNut
This is exactly what I've been trying to point out.

WhoaNellie, you're totally confusing fact and personal opinion. You cite your personal opinion as fact, and you bash the cold hard facts as other people's opinions.

Don't tell me it took you this long to "get" that?

I think you guys enjoy banging your heads against brickwalls.

Posted by Echo of Silence on Dec-03-2003 00:33:

Posted by squirrelly on Dec-03-2003 00:40:

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Originally posted by Echo of Silence
She's right. You don't listen.

She has a relationship with God. Not with a church. There is NO priest to consult.

Perhaps you weren't reading correctly. At that point I was not commenting on her "relationship" with God, I was commenting on her statement that Christianity is not a religion. I was saying to take it to the priest about whether or not Christianity is a Religion. It had nothing to do with her "relationship with God".

Posted by Echo of Silence on Dec-03-2003 00:45:

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Originally posted by anuneventrade
Perhaps you weren't reading correctly. At that point I was not commenting on her "relationship" with God, I was commenting on her statement that Christianity is not a religion. I was saying to take it to the priest about whether or not Christianity is a Religion. It had nothing to do with her "relationship with God".

No, Anun, read your OWN post.

I read correctly.

Let me quote you:

"WhoaNellie, I think maybe you should take on this subject with your priest."

YOUR priest.

Posted by DigiNut on Dec-03-2003 00:45:

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Originally posted by Echo of Silence
She has a relationship with God. Not with a church. There is NO priest to consult.

Her posts have a relationship with my left nut. Not with this thread. There is NO logic to comprehend.

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Posted by Echo of Silence on Dec-03-2003 00:49:

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Originally posted by DigiNut
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quote:
Originally posted by Echo of Silence
Don't tell me it took you this long to "get" that?

I think you guys enjoy banging your heads against brickwalls.

Diginut, you don't listen either? chuckle chuckle

Reread her posts. She specifically addressed this way back when.

Posted by squirrelly on Dec-03-2003 00:50:

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Originally posted by Echo of Silence
No, Anun, read your OWN post.

I read correctly.

Let me quote you:

"WhoaNellie, I think maybe you should take on this subject with your priest."

YOUR priest.

Yes, maybe she should take on the subject with *her* priest. If she goes to church, she has a priest. She "better's" her relationship with God by going to church and praying (at least that is what most do), and in the process, has a particular priest in which she sits and listens to his mass. That means that she has a priest.

If she doubts that Christianity is a religion, then she should go to her priest and discuss it with him. He can tell her that it in fact, is a religion.

Posted by Echo of Silence on Dec-03-2003 00:55:

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Originally posted by anuneventrade
Yes, maybe she should take on the subject with *her* priest. If she goes to church, she has a priest. She "better's" her relationship with God by going to church and praying (at least that is what most do), and in the process, has a particular priest in which she sits and listens to his mass. That means that she has a priest.

If she doubts that Christianity is a religion, then she should go to her priest and discuss it with him. He can tell her that it in fact, is a religion.

First of all, not everyone who has a relationship with God, has a priest.

Secondly, you two argued this thing to death and looked rather foolish. It was obvious after Mr Squirrel's post way back when, that she had her own opinions and she wasn't about to change. So don't start attacking others.

She can "think" the sky is red for all I care. Of course, I know she is not correct. But I am not going to argue it to death.

Posted by WhoaNellie1487 on Dec-03-2003 01:01:

quote:
Originally posted by anuneventrade
WhoaNellie, I think maybe you should take on this subject with your priest. I highly doubt he is going to agree to the fact that what he preaches is not religion and faith.

Read above what Opus stated.

I am tired of arguing with someone who doesn't even realize that Christianity is a religion, even when provided with facts and proof. You haven't proved it is not. You stated your opinions that it is not. So far, not a single person agrees with you.

Kthxbye.

Again, You can call me Nellie. (It's a whole load easier.)

I don't have a " priest". I have a pastor, and we've talked several times about this subject. He teaches a lot about the "RELATIONSHIP" with God. He doesn't believe in religion either.

I know it's not a religion. I provided proof against it. You won't listen, you are totally ignoring the facts here.

That's because the majority of this place is liberal, Yes read my lips L-I-B-E-R-A-L. That or no one will actually stand up to say anything.

My family backs me up on this one, and many of the people I know in church back me up on this one. That's good enough for me.

Posted by squirrelly on Dec-03-2003 01:02:

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Originally posted by Echo of Silence
First of all, not everyone who has a relationship with God, has a priest.

Secondly, you two argued this thing to death and looked rather foolish. It was obvious after Mr Squirrel's post way back when, that she had her own opinions and she wasn't about to change. So don't start attacking others.

She can "think" the sky is red for all I care. Of course, I know she is not correct. But I am not going to argue it to death.

*sigh* Echo, you are the one arguing it to death. This will be my final point for I have dawdled enough away from my essay that is in dire need of being written.

I was not commenting on her relationship with God. She said she goes to church. When one goes to church, they more often than not, stay for a mass. In staying for a mass, there is a priest that leads it. If there is a priest that leads it and you regularly go to that mass, that priest can be considered *your priest*.

And I wasn't attacking others. You're the one that said something to me. Not the other way around.

*sigh* Once again, I am tired of arguing this topic, as I said in my post earlier. But, you of all people should know Echo, that if I am addressed, I always comment.

Posted by WhoaNellie1487 on Dec-03-2003 01:05:

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Originally posted by anuneventrade
Yes, maybe she should take on the subject with *her* priest. If she goes to church, she has a priest. She "better's" her relationship with God by going to church and praying (at least that is what most do), and in the process, has a particular priest in which she sits and listens to his mass. That means that she has a priest.

If she doubts that Christianity is a religion, then she should go to her priest and discuss it with him. He can tell her that it in fact, is a religion.

Yet again, it prooves you don't know all that much about God and church.. Not all churches have priests.
I better my relationship,on my own. Attending churh is a place to learn,and to have fellowship with Christians.. It helps the relationship,sure. But, it's on your own time when you get close to God. You don't just pray at church. Mass? There is no mass.
So let's get this straight.
1) No mass
2) No priest
3) It's my choice to strengthen my relationship with God, church doesn't do that for you. You have to do it on your own.

Posted by squirrelly on Dec-03-2003 01:05:

quote:
Originally posted by WhoaNellie1487
Again, You can call me Nellie. (It's a whole load easier.)

I don't have a " priest". I have a pastor, and we've talked several times about this subject. He teaches a lot about the "RELATIONSHIP" with God. He doesn't believe in religion either.

I know it's not a religion. I provided proof against it. You won't listen, you are totally ignoring the facts here.

That's because the majority of this place is liberal, Yes read my lips L-I-B-E-R-A-L. That or no one will actually stand up to say anything.

My family backs me up on this one, and many of the people I know in church back me up on this one. That's good enough for me.

Okay, my mistake on calling him a priest. He is a pastor. I'm sure he teaches about "relationships" with God, because many people do teach that. But I refuse to believe that someone who belongs to a church, someone who works for a church, doesn't believe Christianity is a religion, when it clearly is defined as one.

You stick to your beliefs, and I'll stick to mine. Neither of us are going to budge.

Posted by squirrelly on Dec-03-2003 01:07:

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Originally posted by Echo of Silence
This is all I needed to read.

Um...please look at the thread.

End of discussion.

How about not? I said myself in that post that I was done. You're the one that brought me back into the scheme of things. Drop it Chrissi.

Posted by WhoaNellie1487 on Dec-03-2003 01:09:

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Originally posted by anuneventrade
Okay, my mistake on calling him a priest. He is a pastor. I'm sure he teaches about "relationships" with God, because many people do teach that. But I refuse to believe that someone who belongs to a church, someone who works for a church, doesn't believe Christianity is a religion, when it clearly is defined as one.

You stick to your beliefs, and I'll stick to mine. Neither of us are going to budge.

My pastor is a brilliant man, Trust me on this one. He tells the differences between religion,and relationship. He knows. I would listen to him,before I would listen to anyone else about this.

He's not only studied this,he's lived it.

and ya never know,Just don't forget what I said.

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