how long before you could beatmatch?

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Posted by Nemesis44 on Nov-27-2003 01:58:

quote:
Originally posted by SUNWmsf
I think if a person has had experience with making music (or even playing music for that matter), then your ears will begin to get trained as far as separating the sounds and keeping a pace. Music is just a composition of different sounds recorded to different tracks which are mixed-down to make the final song (well....music minus vocals).

In any situation, when you make music, you will probably be keeping some kind of homogenous pace throughout the song that you are playing on the piano.

I believe that VIO may have been able to beatmatch on Turntables his 1st time, but I doubt that when he began playing the piano for the first time,he was able to keep his piano keys pace with the same tempo as the "piano-tempo-pacing-device". (or whatever that device is called when it tick-tocks back and forth to train you to keep a certain pace when you play the piano).

Anyways, His initial trouble staying with the tempo when playing the piano is probably pretty equivalent to when a person begins DJ'ing for the first time and attempts to beatmatch (beatmatching a new record and staying with the tempo of the current record playing).

Anyways , VIO, the first time that you played the piano, were you able to keep the pace with that tempo device piano players use in their learning years?

In any situation, people learn to do things their own way... VIO's learning advantage for beatmatching was learning to play the piano in his adolescence.

That's a good post which raises some good points and makes a lot of sense. I see what you mean. When I tried drums for the first time I actually did play a beat correctly but not in particularly good time. The difference between this and DJing is that very often most instruments also depend very heavily on neuromuscular training with a musical ear. Where as DJing is musical ear alongside the learning of a technology (TTs or CDs).
Musical training is a definate bonus for any DJ.
The Tempo thingy by the way is called a metronome.

Cheers
Nem

Posted by 404 Science on Nov-27-2003 21:17:

Its funny, cause ive been mixing for about 3 weeks now, maybe for 3 hours a week, and i can beatmatch two songs for as long as i want. i dont know how to explain it, but i just got the hang of it really quickly, im a fast learner...

so i side with VIO on this, im in the same boat. dually noted, i played trumpet for 3 years, and ive been listening to trance sets 24/7 for 3 years, and i just started mixing. so that explains alot...

but still.... some people are talking about years of practice before they could beatmatch... people go up the learning curve at different speeds.

Posted by VIO on Nov-28-2003 17:42:

quote:
Originally posted by SUNWmsf
Anyways , VIO, the first time that you played the piano, were you able to keep the pace with that tempo device piano players use in their learning years?

i don't remember. i started playing piano 20 years ago so my memory is a little fuzzy. i really don't rememeber if i could keep time or not. i do remember that the reason me parents put me in piano though was because i snuck into the music room of my school when i was in 1st or 2nd grade. i remember sitting at the piano and just making up some song or something and the piano teacher heard me. she told my parents that i was keeping the notes in the same key and that i should be enrolled in piano lessons. my mom also tells me that when i was just a baby i would sit in my chair or stroller and whenever music came on i would sit there and bounce up and down in time with the music. my parents exposed me to a lot of different music from as far back as i can remember. music has always been a part of my life. since i started taking piano 20 years ago i've always been involved in the creation of music in one shape or form. cheers.

Posted by BlInX on Nov-29-2003 21:03:

touching story VIO, for me, its almost similar, but its a guitar,
my dad when he was 16 he started doing weddings, parties, he was a good dj. He used to take me to his events every weekend, then when i was 9 he bought me a guitar i started imitating gary more, and till now i play guitar and i spin. So it was easier for me to beatmatch, i dont say i got it in one shot but it took me an hour to get my first beatmatch.

Posted by ScratchMaster on Dec-01-2003 09:59:

Boy you guys with musical training sure were lucky.
Didn't take too long for me though.I took bout a month and a half playing at another Dj,s place for bout 10-15 mins everyday cause they were other guys over at his place also to try their hand.
That was 3 years ago.
Now I could beatmatch while talkn to someone...its that easy.

Ofcouse my mixing is a great deal better now than 3 years ago.Thats because while beat matching takes a couple of months 'control of sound' and EQing ability only improves with experience.

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