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well, good to know i'm not the only one who thinks they're uncomfy........i have a hard time imagining wearin em for a whole nite feeling that uncomfy - but i guess it just takes some getting used to..........and yeah, those sticky out things make me feel pretty stupid *lol* but yeah, not that big of a deal i guess if it means ur savin ur hearing.......
can u cut the little sticky outy things off?
Try using cheapo ear plugs and then these ones and see if they still feel bad, cause i know i didnt like the normal ones when i first started to use them. It was so good to come out of home on saturday morning being able to hear everything 
Got my plugs yesterday (wasn't @ work to get them)[4 days].
Will play around with them later. A quick play says they're a little bit uncomfy, but they may of not been in right.
Nice carry case they come in too.
--djway
i've tried puttin em in every way possible, and they're still uncomfy...haha let me know if u find the magic comfy way!! 
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| Originally posted by muli can u cut the little sticky outy things off? |
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| Originally posted by Beemer haha makes u feel like ur a nutjob in a mental ward waitin to receive alien radio transmissions or sumthin *lol* |
Yeah don't cut off the stems or you will not be able to put them in or take them out properly. You do get used to the feel reasonably quickly. I often forget I'm wearing them. Anyway like has been said a bit of uncomfort is a sacrifice I'm prepared to make.
still havent got mine 
Had them in for about 1-2 hours tonight. Putting them in correctly took about 4-5 mins the 1st time. I kept trying/playing till it didn't hurt, and figured that was the spot. Sound reduction is pretty cool.
DJing, can be done.
VS the foam 1's the $35 pair kill it!
Looks, the nobs stick out a bit further then expected, but being clear can't really be seen when the light is off.
So far, a good purchase. Will road test either this weekend, or next (read next time I'm out).
--djway
Man this is all scarry.
I'm definately gonna get some earplugs for Together NYE.
Looks like I'll be putting my next $35 towards my hearing.
anybody wanna take a photo wearing these?
wanna see how much these suckers stick out.
Hallo people
Just thought I'd give you a bit of advice on using the ER-20s!
Generally I do and recommend the following;
First clean your ears out with a cotton wool bud, don't insert too deeply. People say not to do this but if you're careful (emphasis on careful) there's no problem. Don't go jamming the bud in deep, don't do it while driving/trampolining, don't do it while someone is likely to sneak up on you.
While you're cleaning your ears out, let go of the cotton wool bud and pay attention to the angle it sits at (make sure it's inserted around 1 - 1.5cm at the time). This is the angle you should insert the earplugs at.
Before you insert the earplugs lubricate them slightly. This is very important and often overlooked by people but it makes it much easier to insert them and achieves a better seal.
I recommend good old fashioned saliva, available from any mouth. Don't spit on them, and don't work up a great big greenie, you just need to lick them slightly (or if you're like me and don't like the taste of earwax lick your fingers then rub the saliva around the silicone tips).
When inserting them you should do so slowly and carefully, you might need a slight twisting motion, but the #1 thing that helps me here is to let your ear guide them in rather than grip them forcefully with your thumb and forefinger and shove them in. Hold them gently and "put your ear over the earplug" so to speak, rather than insert them in your ear. This way they'll move to suit your earcanal shape.
If at any time you experience pain or irritation, REMOVE them and wait for your ears to stop hurting. If this happens you're most likely doing something wrong. Don't charge on like a trooper and 'take the pain' (this is what I did the first time I used them, without lubrication, and my ears hurt for 3 days afterwards).
Depth is a tricky one and varies from person to person. I actually insert mine quite deep to the point where the very tip of the plastic barrel is about 1-2mm outside the little flap of skin at the front side of my earhole.
DO NOT INSERT THEM TOO DEEPLY, you will not be able to remove them. Not inserting them far enough will yield poor results and you won't get much isolation so EXPERIMENTATION is the key
It's normal to take a while to get used to them as well, but you should after time be able to insert and remove them in seconds, and while using them you'll forget you even have them in if you do it properly.
You'll find that when you insert them deeply they can be difficult to remove when your hands get sweaty, so if you're DJing and need to remove them now and then simply don't insert them too deep. Otherwise I use my shirt or a cloth to grip them.
When removing them use a slight twisting motion and do NOT remove them rapidly as the pressure may hurt. It's unlikely to cause damage, but pain isn't always fun.
Make sure you clean them after each use, remove any earwax from the flanges and clean down the tip a little with something soft.
It's not unusual for the silicone to turn yellow after prolonged use, this doesn't effect the performance in any way but it does look a bit icky.
Do NOT think of clipping off the plastic barrel, this not only makes them very difficult or impossible to remove but it is in fact the resonating chamber that makes the earplugs what they are, clipping it off will render them useless (and unsafe).
It's normal after heavy use for the silicone tip to become detatched now and then, so if you're using them frequently make sure the silicone is firmly pushed back onto the plastic. If you go to remove them and find a piece of plastic in your hand and the silicone still in your ears do NOT panic, it's easy to remove - get someone else to do it if you can, otherwise use a mirror. It just requires some care and common sense really.
If you've got any questions feel free to ask away, PM or icq me
And btw, thanks heaps for your support
Marcus/Snufkin
Headphonic Australia
thanx mate... much appreciated, i think this forum has given your site some extra traffic hehe!
welcome to au.ta
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| Originally posted by waXology thanx mate... much appreciated, i think this forum has given your site some extra traffic hehe! welcome to au.ta |
hi snufkin,
curiously, tho unrelated, are u guys gonna stock the koss ksc35s any time soon? they're back in production now no?
We would if we could but the local supplier isn't bringing them unfortunately - you're best ordering them direct or settling for the KSC-50s
hmm time to order some plugs for the xmas festivities!
u guys recommend them?
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| Originally posted by muli hmm time to order some plugs for the xmas festivities! u guys recommend them? |
ok ill wait for the road test 
How much did the custom ones cost cam? Yours were $35 wade?
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| Originally posted by muli ok ill wait for the road test How much did the custom ones cost cam? Yours were $35 wade? |
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| Originally posted by Beemer yeah the ER-20s are $35.....and, if I remember rightly, Cam told me the custom ones were about $140-$150..... |
Yeah the custom ones are $148.50 from the place i went to...
they filled my ears with this silicon stuff that hardened then sent it off... was sposed to pic them up day but couldnt make it so im getting them on tuesday.
the goof thing bout the custom ones is the filter is inside the plug not sticking out like others.
ill let u all know
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| Originally posted by Snufkin We would if we could but the local supplier isn't bringing them unfortunately - you're best ordering them direct or settling for the KSC-50s |
got mine today =)
just trying them out now.. bit uncomfortable but will get use to it i guess. my left side goes in really far.. but im having troubles getting my right in very far at all.. and it hurts a bit
just had my sound system at full.. sounds perfectly clear and reduces so much.. im pleasantly suprised
the bass is still there but the highs are *almost* completely gone which is great.. doesnt reduce too much so u cant hear whats going on.. for example i can still hear myself typing on the keyboard and hear my dad talking fine
definately worth the $35
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| Originally posted by Lanithium hear my dad talking fine |
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