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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Techno is fucking heavy, and its hardly even music (although it is brilliant).

Techno's hardly music? I haven't heard such bullshit message in a while? You should have said that your post has hardly any sence and techno is brilliant

let me state this once and for all
TRANCE IS NOT A SUB-GENRE OF TECHNO
TECHNO IS A SUB-GENRE OF ELECTRONICA AND SO IS TRANCE AND HOUSE AND TRIBAL ETC.

Techno Technically...

According to the world's leading source of languages and their meaning (yup...good ol' Webster):


techno- (as in techno-pop or techno-rock, styles of popular music utilizing electronically created sounds)
Date: 1987
- electronic dance music that features a fast beat and synthesized sounds usually without vocals or a conventional popular song structure

Therefore, one can deduce that the terms Techno AND Electronica can be used interchangeably. Trance is only a small part of Techno. (the best part!)

Can we put this thread to bed?

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Yes mate, but that isn't techno. That's fluffy trance that anyone can like. Techno is fucking heavy, and its hardly even music (although it is brilliant).

HEHEH WHAT A STUPID COMMENT MY FRIEND.

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Originally posted by muravei Techno's hardly music? I haven't heard such bullshit message in a while? You should have said that your post has hardly any sence and techno is brilliant

I think u misunderstood him, he meant techno can be hardly called a music metaphorically because its so brutal and hard

im christian and i listen to techno, furthermore, i also listen to industrial, which is many times more satanic and evil than techno.

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Originally posted by satelites the only kinda music youre probly not gonna see christians listenin to is the hardcore metal/rock with the satanic lyrics, apart from that, tis all crap

guess my secondary music interests just proved that statement wrong.

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Originally posted by Digital Aura According to the world's leading source of languages and their meaning (yup...good ol' Webster): techno- (as in techno-pop or techno-rock, styles of popular music utilizing electronically created sounds) Date: 1987 - electronic dance music that features a fast beat and synthesized sounds usually without vocals or a conventional popular song structure Therefore, one can deduce that the terms Techno AND Electronica can be used interchangeably. Trance is only a small part of Techno. (the best part!) Can we put this thread to bed?

Ya well as you said its from 1987 and you know not too many electronica sub-genres existed and so ill show you again
here it goes
ELCTRONICA} Trance, Techno, House, Ambient, Drum N'Bass, Tribal
those are some main ones
but ya dont put trance into techno because you cant say that out of shitty techno comes out amazing trance because techno is too narrow to fit trance into
now when you say electronica, its very wide and holds all categories of trance , techno etc.
i cant believe senior trance addicts are ignorant enough to say something like *techno breaks down into trance, house etc.
only hicks here in texas are ignorant enough to refer to anything with electronic sounds as techno

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Originally posted by ken2000ac In my opinion the messages are clean, and purely entertaining....

lol!

peace, love, extacy...MoCkMoOn!!

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Originally posted by Ian^ Seriously, it sounds corny, but music IS my religion.

Pulser said it... Phat track too...

nah, seriously, my $0.02:

I think that generally, music taste in general is a purely personal thing, sure, it is influenced by your social surroundings and in the case of strict religious families, parents may stop their children from listening to trance/techno etc. because of the attached drug references and just the fact that, like it or not, drugs are fairly present in the whole clubbing/raving scene... But then again, which (responsible) parent would encourage their kids to go out and get messed up three nights a week?

I dont think that is a religious thing... You also have to remember that trance, like it or not, in most places of the world, is a minority genre of music. If you ask someone in the general public about trance, most likely you will get a response along the lines of "boring repetitive music that people get high to" which we all here, being tranceADDICTS, know is not true, but also being here, we all also know that it CAN be repetitive and ive already mentioned the drug thing. Not meaning to subdivide the community or anything but, is it just that the non-religious portion of society are more tolerant to drug issues than the religious, i think that religion is a good idea, in that it upholds morals that, generally all people should follow religious or not, the ideas are good, but the fact is, that religion as a whole has lost its steam, the fear factor that it instilled in years past is no longer present, the new generation of religious followers are questioning their beliefs, they want evidence. sure, we all know drugs are dangerous, be they x, speed, alcohol, tobacco, even things like paracetamol or the like, all CAN be dangerous, but only if used in the wrong way.

In summary, i think that the whole religious vs. techno thing is purely a matter of religious followers trying to keep themselves safe from drug issues. Imagine what the whole electronig genre would be like without drugs... it would be entirely different. the whole idea of this sort of music is to excite, energise and give adrenalin rushes, which is a drug of itself in some sort of ways.

It is something that you either do or don't like and i dont think that being religious aside from drug issues, has anything to do with actually liking the music.

Music is merely a search for what makes a person happy, what in their opinion is good and keeps them interested. As is this, it is MY opinion as are other people entitled to theirs, i have tried to ride the fence a little and my beliefs on religion on a whole are another topic.

And on a more lightheartened note:

"And For tonight, God Is A DJ"

Moral of this thread:

A person finds two people (or groups of people) and turns them against each other....

this thread most definitely makes me think of a barrel full of cocks.

rofl anyone who thinks christian people do not listen to
'techno' is ignorant, how can you even make a stereotype like that? maybe not the stupidest comment i've ever heard, but it is certainly up there in the ranks.

after reading this whole thread

lotz of u are either stupid or ignant.

bottom line just cuz your christian or "christian" or religious (generally speaking) doesn't mean you are not allowed to or don't listen to EDM.

shit if there are priests molesting children and pastors committing adultry what keeps the regular "sheep" from listen to dance musik.

people who are not into electronic dance music often call it "techno" but anybody that's in the scene knows that "techno" is a specific sub-genre. Mauro Picotto, Chris Liebing.. I can't name many because I don't really like "techno".

I don't care what some book says. In id3 tags they're separate categories that's what really matters j/k

but seriously, techno is techno, trance is trance and the 2 really don't have anything to do with each other except for they're both electronically generated and spun by DJs

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Originally posted by CKYTEP I think u misunderstood him, he meant techno can be hardly called a music metaphorically because its so brutal and hard

Partially, but I also meant that a fair amount of techno is compromised of simple beat/bass loops with some hi-hats, few vocals. It may be brilliant to listen to, but its so raw and nihilistic that it doesn't compare to other styles of music.

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Originally posted by fuct4less im christian and i listen to techno, furthermore, i also listen to industrial, which is many times more satanic and evil than techno. guess my secondary music interests just proved that statement wrong.

Well, are you a believer? Do you go to church?
Do you listen to industrial while driving home from church prayers on sundays?

I think not.

As for techno:
For the general public, the webster definition is the one that applies.

As soon as one gets into electronic music, that definition is unusable, and techno becomes a subgenre of ELECTRONICA.


--My two slices of cheese

Re: Christian people do not listen to techno subgenre

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Originally posted by CKYTEP Something my friend noticed. He is techno DJ playing UK Acid and Sweedish Techno and he says Christian people do not listen to techno... And I had some friends over and they happened to be christian. He was playing techno and kept saing that that music would sound great in hell . And they kinda were looking like this .... So i guess it's kinda true, what are the thoughts on the subject. In addition, Moby used to make hardcore techno tracks and then he became a christian pansy and started producing things for the new Britney's Pears album....

This is some stupid shit!

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Originally posted by muravei Pray with techno, let techno touch your soul, let techno guide you to god, do you feel the power of god in techno, turn up the techno & pray....

(above) thas the way to go (above)


CAN WE PLEASE JUS STOP THIS????? WHO GIVES A FECK BOUT WHO LIKES WHAT, WHY, WHO, HOW and WHEN?? Ello?? anyone?? i think its decisive to say that the original argument way back on page 1 is now officially wrong. christians do listen to techno. also, this is hardly good, its tearin ta apart,

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Originally posted by fuct4less im christian and i listen to techno, furthermore, i also listen to industrial, which is many times more satanic and evil than techno. guess my secondary music interests just proved that statement wrong.

i was refering to hardcore christians but there again, it purely depends upon the person and whether or not they like it etc....


can someone close this post? its jus gettin annoyin now?

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Originally posted by E-vangelist people who are not into electronic dance music often call it "techno" but anybody that's in the scene knows that "techno" is a specific sub-genre. Mauro Picotto, Chris Liebing.. I can't name many because I don't really like "techno". I don't care what some book says. In id3 tags they're separate categories that's what really matters j/k but seriously, techno is techno, trance is trance and the 2 really don't have anything to do with each other except for they're both electronically generated and spun by DJs

EXACTLY
like he said techno is techno trance is trance and thats the bottom line!!!!
it dosnt change when you its the main public and it dosnt change when its an advanced trance fan
we are in the year 2003 not 1987 LIKE HE SAID techno is techno trance is trance u cant stick all sub - genres of electronica and put them into a gigantic shitt pile
and if you do, then i dont even know what the hell you are doing on this web site

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Originally posted by DJ Rat 187 EXACTLY like he said techno is techno trance is trance and thats the bottom line!!!! it dosnt change when you its the main public and it dosnt change when its an advanced trance fan we are in the year 2003 not 1987 LIKE HE SAID techno is techno trance is trance u cant stick all sub - genres of electronica and put them into a gigantic shitt pile and if you do, then i dont even know what the hell you are doing on this web site

crappo :0

Mike PLays techno and trance
Tiesto PLays techno and trance
WTF does oliver Lieb PLay (last time he was hear it was more techno than trance)
Marco V PLays techno and trance
Techno and trance(Not the crap commercialized caca) work together and are totally interchangelable and there are certain tracks that are both techno and trance


its the same with progressive and trance

and progressive and techno

and progressive and breaks

Genres are crap

He never said anything about what DJs play.

But there is a difference between Techno and Trance. Anyone who says differently needs to get a clue. Techno is music based around drum loops and simple minimal tunes, where as trance dfor instance is all abourt long strung out synth cords and and euphoric breakdowns..


They are NOT the same music. Techno is the undisputed original and best sound which has been about since the start of electronic dance msuic along with house.


So all of you who think Techno and trance are the same thing, go and have a look at the scene properly and learn about the music you all kid on you love so much...

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Partially, but I also meant that a fair amount of techno is compromised of simple beat/bass loops with some hi-hats, few vocals. It may be brilliant to listen to, but its so raw and nihilistic that it doesn't compare to other styles of music.

Again I have to say it's a bullshit message. I dare hardly to call for example swedisch techno simple. In my opinion it's much more superior than most trance. For example Hardcell & Grindvik - Outline (Joel Mull September Leaf mix), infact all Hardcell, Hardcell & Grindvik, any Beyer & Henrik B, anything from Dahbaeck, Hertz, Mull...Bacto.

simple beat/bass loops with some hi-hats...

I think you shouldn't talk about techno if you don't know anything about it!

Are you talking about minimal or something.

Minimal and simple basicly mean the same thing...

umm...i think basically he meant practicing christians..ya know ,the real churchy ones.always preachin 2 u about what u do or say,shit like that.i think thats what he meant

Who cares if he meant that.. Its still a fuking stupid thing to say!

Oh great purist Don....

Can u PLees tell me what sort of music DJ Remy makes?...I'm quite interested

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