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Posted by dj alonzo on Jul-31-2001 14:35:

When i was in the store trying headphones i tried the following:
Sony MDR-V700 - pretty good sound, too heavy, i give it 88.
Sony MDR-7506 - good sound, comfy, i give it 92.
Pioneer SE-DJ5000 - pretty nice sound, pretty comfy, i give it 80.
Technics RP-DJ1200 - very good sound, comfy, i give it 95.
Sennheiser HD-25 - Very very good sound, very comfy, i give it 97.
Sennheiser HD-25sp - nice sound, very confy, i give it 80.

this is my ranking... they are all "DJ HeadPhones" and all good headphones.


Posted by Max2LC on Jul-31-2001 19:42:

Shame / Disagreement mmmmm

I never seen Sennheiser HD-25 in my store... maybe that's why i dunno the difference...you ALLLLLLLL agree that Sennheiser HD-25 are better than any shit out there???


Posted by Max2LC on Jul-31-2001 21:50:

quote:
Originally posted by dj alonzo
this is my ranking... they are all "DJ HeadPhones" and all good headphones.


Agree !!!!


Posted by Gluegun on Aug-01-2001 14:48:

Max2LC, yea, pretty much, we agree that the Sennheiser HD25's are the best out there...well, maybe except the Beyerdynamic DT-831's, but those don't swivel right for a DJ, and they need a better amp than the Sennheiser HD25's do.


Posted by Superscope on Aug-01-2001 16:06:

Ok,first off ere,the phones werent bought for dj,ing.I mean i said sound quality right?
For djing i have a far superior set of phones I am happy with,they cost me 200 quid and im not tellin u what they are because some shmuck like the guy who said "Listen to classical on them" will probably just diss them because they have shit ears,and i dont.

Those 495 senns where bought for listening in my home.I tried and tested them with all kinds of stuff,from dvd's,to classical music from my bose sound system,and they still sucked (maybe just for my head and audio ability anyway).
And when it comes to dj'ing,sound quality isnt really an issue,i think comfort,noise baffling and freaq response are paramount.
So anybody sayin those 495's are shit hot can f*** off and rave on about em at www.classicalmusicaddict.com (If it even exists)

Beyach


Posted by Max2LC on Aug-01-2001 17:55:

Drunk HAHHAHAAHH

LOL !!!


Posted by dj alonzo on Aug-01-2001 17:57:

These are all the headphones i have:
Sennheiser HD-25sp, Sennheiser HD-200, Technics RP-DJ1200, Pro Luxe PRO-M5(pretty good for the price) and the Numark HF-150...
All of the above are "dj headphones"... The HD-200 are about the same as the HD-495 and are pretty nice... they don't get very loud, but their quality is pretty good.


Posted by Max2LC on Aug-01-2001 18:00:

Arrow Yo Alonzo

DJ Alonzo....
Fuck The Headphones...talk about love parade...is there gonna be one this year in Israel?
I might visit my bro. lives there


Posted by dj alonzo on Aug-01-2001 18:12:

Yeah... there's gonna be one in israel, but only in October... where does your brother lives in Israel?


Posted by ShadySlim on Aug-01-2001 19:37:

quote:
Originally posted by Transa
Those 495 senns where bought for listening in my home.I tried and tested them with all kinds of stuff,from dvd's,to classical music from my bose sound system,and they still sucked (maybe just for my head and audio ability anyway)...


Well, Transa, that Bose audio system itself sucks - especially for such a high price! I demoed that system's headphone output, and found their frequency response to be extremely coloured - in fact, the only headphones that sounded "right" directly out of that system's headphone jack (to my ears) are those Sony MDR-V700DJ's that those "headphone gods" like Gluegun and Neruda are dissing. (Those headphones do suck for classical and jazz on most other systems.) Another possibility is that the headphone op-amps of most minisystems - such as your Bose - are nearly as gutless as those of most portable CD and MD players. In fact, the Sennheiser HD 495's are especially tough on headphone amps - they are low-impedance, low-efficiency headphones, and thus need a lot of output current capability that's beyond that of many headphone amps.

So, Transa, you need a full-sized component audio system to listen to music, not some cheesy and overpriced minisystem that only sounds good with the equally crappy loudspeakers that came with it. And BTW, you have posted your original question in the wrong group of forums - trancEaddict is a group of forums catering primarily to Trance music and to DJs; your question really belongs to HeadWize or Head-Fi.

The saying is: NO HIGHS, NO LOWS, IT MUST BE BOSE.


Posted by Max2LC on Aug-02-2001 05:12:

quote:
Originally posted by dj alonzo
Yeah... there's gonna be one in israel, but only in October... where does your brother lives in Israel?

Jerusalem...
he's 23....not into trance
LOL


Posted by dj alonzo on Aug-02-2001 09:36:

What is he doing here?


Posted by Max2LC on Aug-02-2001 13:31:

Unhappy

Basicly they won't let him out to live with us here in US...Don't ask why....FUCKING IDIOTS (consules)


Posted by dj alonzo on Aug-02-2001 16:24:

Must be because of the army...

U used to live here too??


Posted by Max2LC on Aug-02-2001 20:42:

Noah I'v never been to Israel...
and no it's not army..it's those fags not wanting him to stay here


Posted by ShadySlim on Aug-03-2001 01:00:

Heheheh, Transa. I really mean this motto:

BOSE BLOWS!

And I will clarify some of the things that I said about that Bose system... The control unit, with the tuner, CD player, and preamp with headphone jack, has no speaker amplifier whatsoever - and (as I said) a REALLY crappy headphone output. And that control unit is designed to work only with the crappy Acoustimass speakers (with their proprietary built-in amplifiers) that came with that system. And worse, the connections between the control unit and the speakers are proprietary, so you can forget about upgrading the speakers on that way overpriced piece of crap.

And BTW, you can buy mini- and micro- audio systems that deliver near-audiophile sound quality. Unfortunately, the ultra-expensive Bose systems are not among them.


Posted by ShadySlim on Aug-03-2001 22:25:

Satan (eek!)

Gluegun, the last few posts between Max2LC and dj alonzo are REALLY off topic! And read my last couple of posts for the answer to the original poster's question.


Posted by Superscope on Aug-04-2001 11:40:

Listen,at which point in this post did i mention what exact model of sound system? Huh? Will u please find where i said that and quote it below here in big bold yellow letters,then i'll see your point.


Posted by ShadySlim on Aug-04-2001 12:22:

Sorry, Transa, for the ranting in the past two or three posts - and you didn't mention what are the exact components in your system. When you said "Bose audio system" it could mean the AcousticWave table radio, one of those LifeStyle "minisystems" - or, a full-sized component audio system that just happens to have Bose speakers connected to it. Can you please tell me the exact components in your system?

BTW, I did mention why the Sennheiser HD 495 may have sucked in your system. It is low impedance (32 ohms) and low efficiency (only 91dB @ 1mW - don't be misled by its 106dB sensitivity rating; Sennheiser rates sensitivity by a different method than most other brands), so that it's particularly tough on many headphone outputs. And if you said that it sucks, it could be that even on a full-sized component receiver, you probably had to turn up the receiver's volume control to a significantly higher setting than you would have with most other headphones in order to get the same loudness level. Another possibility is that you may have had equalizer or tone controls set to any setting other than "0" or "FLAT" and/or you may have had that "Loudness" button or bass boost button switched ON, or that your system may have had a "loudness/bass boost" function that can't be manually switched off. A third possibility is that your 495's may have been defective. Transa, can you tell me precisely what's wrong with the 495 - bass, highs, mids, loudness and distortion? "They suck!" just doesn't cut it.


Posted by Superscope on Aug-04-2001 14:01:

Im using the lifestyle 901 system,it comes with shit hot speakers,but i always want more :-) so i have hooked it up to a sony amplifier and attatched an extra 4 harman kardon speakers.
But it sonds exactly the same on any platform.I mean,perhaps they didnt suck in other ppls eyes,but my sister has a set of 9.99 aiwa cans and the sennheisers quality and response was not a patch on them,and when i listened to bassy music/films,the treble was cut out whenever there was the slightest low frequency in there,and the feel so horribly flimsy,if fake headphones where around,i could swear they where from a spanish marketplace!


Posted by dj alonzo on Aug-04-2001 14:04:

quote:
the last few posts between Max2LC and dj alonzo are REALLY off topic


Sorry mate... didn't mean to do any harm...


Posted by Gluegun on Aug-04-2001 21:52:

Awww, who care's if we're off topic? Our current topic is fun...

Oh, the Bose 901's?

They suck. I have them. My dad got em for free, and they, well, suck. All muddy, and boomy, and there are holes where you can't hear things properly ALL OVER the spectrum.... Oh, and the reason about it not mattering what Bose product you have is that, uh, Bose hasn't made a quality set of speakers yet... not home theater speakers, not headphones, not outdoor speakers, not mini systems, not car speakers (well, they made a clock radio that sounds better than other clock radios....but that's about it), nothing...

Transa, what you just described was NOT a set of Sennheiser HD495's....

I think you got sold a different set of cans...you probably got ripped off...either that or a _*REALLY*_ defective pair.

Here, man, go to Radio Shack and get the 3904 cd player (get that exact model, it has enough juice for em, it should only cost $35), and get the sennheiser 495's from a reliable place (IE, HERE: http://store.yahoo.com/headroom/senhd495.html ) If you wanna hear em right...

Was this EXACT MODEL what you got sold?
http://www.headphone.com/ProductsHe...heiserHD495.asp


Posted by ShadySlim on Aug-05-2001 00:40:

Transa: If the earpieces were black and not silver, chances are that you've been switched to the cheaper - and darker-sounding - HD 490 Live! And those cans have rather screechy and muddy highs compared to the REAL HD 495 Silvers.


Posted by Gluegun on Aug-05-2001 00:47:

Yea, transa, it sounds like you got ripped off...A LOT of Sennheiser's line sucks, and it sounds like you got one of their headphones that sucks, rather than one of their good models...


Posted by ShadySlim on Aug-05-2001 04:08:

Transa, I think I know the problem you *allegedly* have with the HD 495's. You may be listening to your headphones at volume levels so high -- in fact, WAY louder than Gluegun and me are accustomed to listening at -- that the drivers of the 495's show early signs of "clipping". If you can hear better sound from those el-cheapo Aiwas, then the Senn 495's maximum usable decibel level is significantly lower than those crappy Aiwas. Oh well... A 60-quid pair of headphones with higher loudness capacity will suck badly in overall sound quality at normal volumes!


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