Any Oakenfold lovers still out there?

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Posted by Steven Hays on Dec-23-2003 00:56:

Paul is not gay by far. His wife is that fine asian chick you always see in the projection screen behind him when he's spinning!

Posted by SuperFarStucker on Dec-23-2003 04:31:

quote:
Originally posted by Mainline
i think you'll find that at the time of the CDs release most of the tracks were relatively unknown and certainly not renowned for being the classics they are today. i would argue that his championing of such records from day one has played a huge part in attainment of their "anthem" status.

See, that is the misconception, they aren't "classics", as in they don't offer some "new" or "innovative" edge to trance or even to edm as a whole (not a paradigm). AND MORE IMPORTANTLY THEY FAIL (UTTERLY) TO MAKE A STATEMENT (will not, have not, withstood the "test of time") WHATSOEVER. These two criteria are, in my mind, the ways to make your song into a classic.

Those trance tracks, are for the most part, disposable music. I listen to them, and I think "hey" minus negligible changes in the way people produce anthem trance these songs could fit right in with all the absolute shite drivel that is pushed out today. I sincerely doubt my post is going to change any minds on the issue because the majority of users here have some dogmatic belief that "twinkly synths" and over-dramaticized breakdown's and buildups are supposed to evoke some sort of emotion. I will admit that I once fell under the guise of this, but recently i have been thoroughly and (i hope) permanently disillusioned. It's no different than pop music really, find a format that works, rinse, lather, repeat..

flame away... please

Posted by Abject Silver on Dec-23-2003 05:41:

quote:
Originally posted by Evan Almae
Here's my stand on Oakey:

He got me into the scene. I've never stopped loving him. I've never gave up on him. He still is the greatest in my book. I hope Oakey never retires. I will always be thankful for him and his music. His stateside/presents sets are consistantly good, and his productions are gettin better. His next artist album will turn everyone's heads and then everyone will like him again. Ignorant logic the majority has really.

-Steve

talk like yoda, you do.

but seriously, i agree very much with what you said.

Posted by Miss Julia on Dec-23-2003 08:37:

quote:
Originally posted by Evan Almae
Paul is not gay by far. His wife is that fine asian chick you always see in the projection screen behind him when he's spinning!

LMAOO!!!!! That's NOT his wife!!!!!!!

Posted by DaveT on Dec-23-2003 11:18:

quote:
Originally posted by keithos27
ah whatever man... does it really matter? do you enjoy the music? if so, cool. do you deal with him on a daily basis? i highly doubt it, so what impact does it truly have on your life what he is like personally? maybe it's that attitude that gets him more respect in the business world? who knows?

You gotta understand....I'm a bitter man.

Anyhow, I guess he just really pissed me off when I saw him here...and he would do his little jesus poses and turn down the music to get applauses....excuse me, I want to dance and hear the music...not fucking clap and cheer for him when he can clearly hear it to make him feel like a king. I don't need the volume to be turned down to clap and cheer.

It just really urks me when DJs do that. Dave Seaman did it 7 times in 80 minutes when he played here a month ago. I may be considered sad for counting how many times he did it, but when a DJ does it that much it's hard to not start counting. While I loved his set I am not sure if I'll see him ever again. The only thing that might bring me back is that I think he realized that the crowd wasn't really into the cheering/clapping when he turned the music down so he suddenly stopped and didn't do it during the last 2 hours of his set.

Again...I'm just bitter....please excuse me.

I wish Oakey would just go back to his old ways...when he was pretty much the greatest. As reports of his ego tactics started popping up in places is around the time when his music selection started slipping.

Oakey was one of a very few DJs who got me back heavily into Trance after I started slipping out of it in the late 90s....starting hearing all types of his stuff and just completely fell back in love with trance and EDM in general. I will always respect and love him for that. But until he noticeably loses the big head, my overall support for him will be lacking. I'll applaud him when I hear great sets from him, though, as it's impossible to deny a great set is a great set.

The next DJ I think might be losing my support...Paul van Dyk. Will be so hard, but I've heard some nasty things about his persona....yikes.

Posted by Mainline on Dec-23-2003 14:25:

quote:
Originally posted by SuperFarStucker
See, that is the misconception, they aren't "classics", as in they don't offer some "new" or "innovative" edge to trance or even to edm as a whole (not a paradigm). AND MORE IMPORTANTLY THEY FAIL (UTTERLY) TO MAKE A STATEMENT (will not, have not, withstood the "test of time") WHATSOEVER. These two criteria are, in my mind, the ways to make your song into a classic.

Those trance tracks, are for the most part, disposable music. I listen to them, and I think "hey" minus negligible changes in the way people produce anthem trance these songs could fit right in with all the absolute shite drivel that is pushed out today. I sincerely doubt my post is going to change any minds on the issue because the majority of users here have some dogmatic belief that "twinkly synths" and over-dramaticized breakdown's and buildups are supposed to evoke some sort of emotion. I will admit that I once fell under the guise of this, but recently i have been thoroughly and (i hope) permanently disillusioned. It's no different than pop music really, find a format that works, rinse, lather, repeat..

flame away... please

That's just your personal opinion though. There is no objective criteria for deciding 'classic' records. Generally what makes a classic is enough people calling it that. The majority of trance lovers do consider tracks from Tranceport to be classics of some sort or other, fact.

Posted by Steven Hays on Dec-23-2003 14:49:

quote:
Originally posted by sExY pErSiAn
LMAOO!!!!! That's NOT his wife!!!!!!!

someone told me it was!

Posted by KaOtiK1 on Dec-23-2003 15:28:

Oakey is a great DJ his new stuff is good.. iloved his album Great Wall... the whole purpose of his shitty album "Bunkka" was a experiment to try and get America into the whole trance scene again.. so he threw out a comercial song that america would like which they did like since it was played all over MTV and radio stations across america..

Posted by Jeskot7 on Dec-23-2003 15:30:

Reminds me of his Club NV appearance, I was in the front row and I made a heart with my hands to tell him I loved him. He did it back to me so I don't believe that he is as insensitive as people say he is.

Posted by Jeskot7 on Dec-23-2003 15:53:

quote:
Originally posted by sExY pErSiAn
LMAOO!!!!! That's NOT his wife!!!!!!!

Check out this article, it looks to me like he is gay. They use the word "mate" that doesn't exactly connotate friendship.

[url]http://party93...pauloakbio.html[/URL]

Posted by Jeskot7 on Dec-23-2003 15:55:

OOps I messed up here's one more short at posting the article that suggest Oakenfold is in fact a homosexual, as Seinfeld says "not that there's anything wrong with that"
Paul Oakenfold & mate "Trevor Fung"

Posted by SuperFarStucker on Dec-23-2003 15:58:

quote:
Originally posted by Jeskot7
OOps I messed up here's one more short at posting the article that suggest Oakenfold is in fact a homosexual, as Seinfeld says "not that there's anything wrong with that"
Paul Oakenfold & mate "Trevor Fung"

just in case your basis for the suggested homosexuality is the usage of the word "mate" i would like to inform you that in some parts of the world it means somethign much closer to "friend" then "lover"... I didn't read the entire article but... I think you are misguided...

Posted by SuperFarStucker on Dec-23-2003 16:01:

Posted by SuperFarStucker on Dec-23-2003 16:15:

quote:
Originally posted by Mainline
That's just your personal opinion though. There is no objective criteria for deciding 'classic' records. Generally what makes a classic is enough people calling it that. The majority of trance lovers do consider tracks from Tranceport to be classics of some sort or other, fact.

If everyone has justification though then everything popular is a classic, you be the judge.

Posted by KaOtiK1 on Dec-23-2003 17:25:

In the November issue of BPM they interviewed Oakey and that was one of the first questions they asked him if he was a homosexual and he answered that he is not that there is a lot of rumors that he is gay but he clearly stated that he is not in anyway gay.. he then stated that he has preformed at a few gay joints around the world

Posted by Miss Julia on Dec-23-2003 18:11:

quote:
Originally posted by Jeskot7
Check out this article, it looks to me like he is gay. They use the word "mate" that doesn't exactly connotate friendship.

[url]http://party93...pauloakbio.html[/URL]

Well, your link didn't work hun. But anyway, like i mentioned, he is defenitely not gay regardless of whether u think he looks gay, or talks gay, or uses the word "mate" in a funny way. He is from fucking London for crying out loud! lol Cheers Mate

Posted by Miss Julia on Dec-23-2003 18:17:

quote:
Originally posted by DaveT
You gotta understand....I'm a bitter man.

Anyhow, I guess he just really pissed me off when I saw him here...and he would do his little jesus poses and turn down the music to get applauses....excuse me, I want to dance and hear the music...not fucking clap and cheer for him when he can clearly hear it to make him feel like a king. I don't need the volume to be turned down to clap and cheer.

I've never seen him turning down the music so the audience can cheer for him! How strange! But, ya, he does do the jesus poses. I think he does that because he REALLY gets into the music and just forgets about everything. The poses don't bother me. It gives him more character in my opinion. And he always does this funny dance... it cracks me up! hehehe

Posted by JudgeJulez on Dec-23-2003 19:22:

oi evan almae and jeskot,

oakey is married to angie costa, sister of his 'mate' Alfie (london-based dj)

pic of the couple at the swordfish opening-

http://us.imdb.com/gallery/granitz/...kenfold,%20Paul

Posted by keithos27 on Dec-23-2003 19:50:

quote:
Originally posted by JudgeJulez
oi evan almae and jeskot,

oakey is married to angie costa, sister of his 'mate' Alfie (london-based dj)

pic of the couple at the swordfish opening-

http://us.imdb.com/gallery/granitz/...kenfold,%20Paul

Exactly. I posted a different pic of them over on trance.nu a month or so back but can't find it (and the forum search is down so I can't find it now either). But yeah... he is (or was) married to Angie Costa... and she's pretty.

-Keith

Posted by Jeskot7 on Dec-23-2003 19:56:

quote:
Originally posted by KaOtiK1
In the November issue of BPM they interviewed Oakey and that was one of the first questions they asked him if he was a homosexual and he answered that he is not that there is a lot of rumors that he is gay but he clearly stated that he is not in anyway gay.. he then stated that he has preformed at a few gay joints around the world

I would love to read that article.

Posted by Miss Julia on Dec-23-2003 19:58:

I wonder how Oakenfold, or any other dj that tours as much as he does, be in a happy marriage or a serious relationship? He is on tour A LOT!!!! And I'm sure he has hot chics drooling over him everywhere he goes. How does his marriage work?

Posted by Jeskot7 on Dec-23-2003 20:24:

Posted by Dmatrox on Dec-23-2003 20:25:

Posted by JudgeJulez on Dec-24-2003 01:14:

quote:
Originally posted by sExY pErSiAn
I wonder how Oakenfold, or any other dj that tours as much as he does, be in a happy marriage or a serious relationship? He is on tour A LOT!!!! And I'm sure he has hot chics drooling over him everywhere he goes. How does his marriage work?

hehehe...well if they're still married, it's been about 2-3 yrs now. but yes i still remember the first time i saw the man 4yrs ago - climbing up out in front of Freedom (club in Tempe, AZ) flanked on both sides with two 5'10" models in 10-gallon hats towering over him, one under each arm. she must be a very understanding woman

Posted by Miss Julia on Dec-24-2003 01:27:

quote:
Originally posted by JudgeJulez
flanked on both sides with two 5'10" models in 10-gallon hats towering over him, one under each arm.

Groupies!!!!!

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