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Posted by Magimaster on Dec-31-2003 07:33:

Some Leafs fans on some hockey forums I go to are getting obnoxious. Starting to call TML's "God's Team".



*Ranking of Canadian Teams*

1.Toronto - Picked up a lot of momentum and ran with it. Don't see a major stoppage soon, though I doubt they can keep up their pace for the rest of the entire season. Possibly finish in the top 3 of the eastern conference (any spot seems up for grabs) and then choke first round (7th game) just like last year

2.Vancouver - Solid consistent play all season. Their "rough times" consisted of just 1 loss in regulation, a whole bunch of close calls with some teams we should have slaughtered (on paper, like when Markus singlehandedly defeated the Pens) and atleast a point in all the others. Haven't lost more than 2 in a row in regulation for the past what, 2.5 seasons now?

3.Ottawa - Kinda crappy start (considering the expectations they set for themselves and avid NHL aficianado's last year), they're picking up lots of steam. Still considered by many analysts to be the most "well rounded" team in the league. By the end of the season, they will have superceded either of the 2 teams above, or possibly both. Also my pick in the east to go deeeep in the playoffs.

4.Calgary - Steam steam steam. I honestly don't think they can keep up this pace, considering their grinding style of play. Kipprosfojesla(sp?) is their ace in the hole. though they're in good position now, anything can happen. If they make the playoffs, expect some Minnesota type playoff hockey (read: trap trap crap). Dark horse to go far in the playoffs. I honestly think if they were matched up with either Detroit, St.Louis or Colorado they would push them to the limit.

5.Montreal - They're doing okay. At this pace, they should make the playoffs. I wouldn't bet on them though come playoff time, especially if they run into any of the Toronto teams. Still, if Theodore decides to bring it, they can do some damage.

6.Edmonton - I'm not sure of the exact numbers, but someone on a hockey forum worked it out. Edmonton needs to win around 65% of its remaining games (an insane win percentage. Think St.Louis) in order to just make 82-84 points (the bare minimum avg. that all the 8th place teams had going into the playoffs for the past few seasons, it was around that number). Things aren't looking good for the Oil My secret hope of all Canadian teams making it to the post season is fading faster and faster.



that's what I think. comments?


Posted by Hami on Dec-31-2003 20:06:

I agree with you on every point except that you can't judge there chances of this post season based thier last season, if you look back at thier past 4 seasons, they've done quite well post-season. It's just hasn't been our year yet.

I think that this year there gonna do well because in previous seasons, the team hasn't pulled together like this until right before post season, and here we are half way through and there working like a well oiled machine.

I've been looking at player escpecially while passing behind the net. They never look at where they pass, they just know where there players are, and that's been scoring us goals.

And honestly, I wouldn't rule out Montreal either, they always suprise you.


Posted by infinity HiGH on Dec-31-2003 20:25:

Well Hami; they pulled together now, but who's to say that they'll stick together all the way? I personally would've preferred if Toronto went on this streak in April, cause thats when kicking ass really matters


Posted by UWO Tranceaddict on Dec-31-2003 21:11:

quote:
Originally posted by Magimaster

*Ranking of Canadian Teams*

1.Toronto - Picked up a lot of momentum and ran with it. Don't see a major stoppage soon, though I doubt they can keep up their pace for the rest of the entire season. Possibly finish in the top 3 of the eastern conference (any spot seems up for grabs) and then choke first round (7th game) just like last year



To finish in the top 3 they have to win the North EAst division, which i believe they can. The way its set up the 2nd place teams in the top 2 divisions are fucked. As of now, Ottawa would face NJ in the first round, because they are ranked 4 and 5, since ATL get third as a result of the division leaders ranking 1,2,3.

So, if the leafs win their division, theyll be 1 or 2, and will win their first round matchup easily. If the come second to ottawa theyll be 4 or 5 and play second place in the east division. Either NJ or PHI. If that happens only God himself can save us.


Posted by torontotrance on Dec-31-2003 21:20:

Toronto won't win....nuff said....they seem to fall apart come playoffs..this year will be no different.


Posted by Hami on Dec-31-2003 21:24:

quote:
Originally posted by torontotrance
Toronto won't win....nuff said....they seem to fall apart come playoffs..this year will be no different.



they don't always fall apart. Last year they fell apart, the year before, they played the best hockey in years with so many injuries.....
all we need is a good run, with no injuries, and we're cup contenders.


Posted by torontotrance on Dec-31-2003 21:25:

bullshit

cup contenders....i doubt it

you play well now....but you never hold it in the playoffs...same teams again this year....detroit, new jersey, colorado, philly...


Posted by discojoe on Jan-02-2004 03:25:

nice streak.

just a little update
ottawa unbeaten in 8. 6 behind the leafs with 2 games at hand and beat the two teams the leafs recently lost to. anyone really surprised?
only team in the league top 5 in both goals for and fewest goals against.


Posted by Muff2K on Jan-02-2004 05:37:

^^^^


thats little streak the leafs had going was about it for the season. wont seee it again. and now it will be time for teams like the devils & sens to really shine

that'll be the top 2 teams in the east this season.


i think before the halfway point of the season the sens should be on top in the east.


sorry toronto fans, but u guys gotta realize that the initial problems the leafs had at the beginning of the season are still there, and they wont die down...

Q U I N N has to go.


Posted by Strike on Jan-02-2004 21:46:

quote:
Originally posted by Muff2K
Q U I N N has to go.


whenever they do bad, the blame automatically goes to quinn, and when they're playing well, he doesn't get as much credit as he deserves
quinn isn't the one out there scoring goals, he isn't the one out there making hits
i don't think he is the one responsible for allowing belfour to get peppered with 41 shots last night
you can blame it on bad coaching if you want, but let's see how far the leafs can go without quinn

let's not forget who helped bring gold to canada


Posted by discojoe on Jan-02-2004 22:47:

too much blame on the referees too little accountability on the players. apparently hes isnt very good a developing the youngsters either

then again.. he out coached martin and the sens three years in a row and won us the gold. cant be that bad...


Posted by Strike on Jan-03-2004 02:10:

quote:
Originally posted by discojoe
apparently hes isnt very good a developing the youngsters either


i totally agree with you
it's like all the young players are always stuck in st. johns!
when is colaiacovo going to get the chance to get some real nhl action?!


Posted by Muff2K on Jan-03-2004 02:15:

^^^^

i never meant that quinn was a bad coach. i just feel that, like you said, the players are out there scoring goals...

and at the beginning of the season, they werent trying, they werent listening to him, they lost interest in listening to him i think..


tahts just my opinion tho.


Posted by Matt on Jan-03-2004 02:42:

Sens are gonna choke in the playoffs, just like they always do.


Posted by discojoe on Jan-03-2004 07:27:

quote:
Originally posted by Mosaic
Sens are gonna choke in the playoffs, just like they always do.


choke as in two rounds better than the leafs last year?


Posted by Muff2K on Jan-03-2004 08:58:

quote:
Originally posted by discojoe
choke as in two rounds better than the leafs last year?



nice



yeah, they've been a better playoff team than the leafs have the past few years, and so what if they choked, they still made it further


this little 'streak' the leafs had made so many leaf fans overly optimistic for future success...

cmon down back to earth boys & girls


Posted by Matt on Jan-03-2004 13:51:

quote:
Originally posted by discojoe
choke as in two rounds better than the leafs last year?


nah, choke as in get whipped by the Leafs in round one


Posted by Hami on Jan-03-2004 18:17:

quote:
Originally posted by Mosaic
nah, choke as in get whipped by the Leafs in round one



damn straight!


Posted by DigDeep on Jan-03-2004 19:05:

Tonight: Buffalo @ Toronto (7:00 on CBC)

So the Leafs go into tonight having lost 2 of 3, and playing quite possibly the worst defensive hockey theyve experienced all season long. The little things that worked for them during "the streak" have suddenly vanished, and tonight is a must win if they want to carry any momentum into their tough stretch of games they have about a week from now. The next 3 games are games they should be able to take care of (Buffalo, Pittsburgh & Nashville). But the next 6 should be the deciding factor as to how the leafs will contend in the playoffs this season facing off against Ottawa, New Jersey and Calgary (all @ ACC) then on the road against Philly, back at ACC against Philly and then The Islanders. If they have any chance this year of taking the cup they'll have to take 4 of 6 in this stretch to prove they can matchup against the other contenders in the league.

Prediction for tonight:
Toronto 4
Buffalo 2


Posted by DigDeep on Jan-04-2004 03:39:

Toronto 3 Buffalo 3

Matt Stajan scored the tying goal with just over 3 minutes left to send the game to overtime where nothing was decided. Again, the Leafs get seriously outplayed in the 2nd, and wake up and dominate the 3rd period. The Leafs outshot the Sabres 37 - 16, and Belfour couldnt get the job done in net to give his team a chance to win. Its starting to get scary in Leafville......and if they cant get in done in Pittsburgh on Monday night.....i think i may just give up on them.
ITS PITTSBURGH DAMNIT!!!! Oh, and unknown status on Nolan who left the game after he recieved a high-stick in the 1st period on a no call.

Next up:
01.05.03. Toronto @ Pittsburgh, 7:30 (TSN)


Posted by crazedcanuck on Jan-04-2004 08:33:

quote:
Originally posted by discojoe
choke as in two rounds better than the leafs last year?


Pffft, and the only year in the past 4 @ least they advanced farther than us.

Who was it that spanked your asses the 2 playoff years before we lost to Philly last year? That's right, the Leafs, forcing the entire hockey world to call the Sens the softest team out of all those with a competitive edge.

Looks like it's a fit for the sens again this year too


Posted by Matt on Jan-05-2004 00:41:

anyways, I was making a point with my statement....

It's MIDSEASON... who the fuck knows what will happen during the playoffs?

The Leafs could all die in a fiery coach bus blaze for all we know.


Posted by Dj Smitty20 on Jan-05-2004 04:46:

quote:
Originally posted by Mosaic
anyways, I was making a point with my statement....

It's MIDSEASON... who the fuck knows what will happen during the playoffs?

The Leafs could all die in a fiery coach bus blaze for all we know.


exactly...but watch out for Les Habiton! They're on the move upward and in June we Habs fans could be singing "na na na na..na na na..na na naaa" or whatever.


Posted by Projekt4.o on Jan-06-2004 00:21:

okay i see this thread become more or so popular and it wasn`t suppose to be that way, as some of u at the beginning wanted, anyway there isn`t any team in the whole world that only wins and wins all the time, sometimes u got to lose to learn mistakes and to deal with them so they won`t happene again, which I wanted to say that Canada didn`t learn and got taught another lesson in hockey against this time our ol good friend from down south which as someone said was the fav and how can they deal with that, well they did somehow and they won with a comeback of three goals in third period to win the whole thing 4 - 3. Canada still won but the silver medals.


Posted by Hami on Jan-06-2004 03:25:

Toronto - 5
Pittsburg - 0
Final Score



Awesome game, we didn't even need Belfor to hit the shutout.

once again, proof of a cup contending team



Nashville tommorow, that's a walk in the park


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