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Originally posted by hadi ****** i dont really give a shit about miami. this thread is iran quake vs california quake, not iran quake vs hurricanes in miami

- Im trying to make a point for those that seem to not see what Im referring to. And it really well fits the discussion, since people are talking about codes and blablabla.. and Im trying to say that pretty much everywhere, in everycounty, nation.. this things happen, and that not even in the US codes are followed, even in areas where catastrophes ARE expected. And since this is an iran quuake vs. cali quake.. then why is people talking about WMD. Anyways.. what will you say if a Tsunami hits the west coast?!?! are they prepared for it?!?!?!.. no.. why?!?!?!.. because they have never experienced any, or at least.. not in years.. the same thing with this city in Iran.

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Originally posted by LiquidX - For hurricane Andrew, you could easily see the houses the followed the code and those that didnt. There was this private community, whose houses had barely any damage.. while all the surrounding houses were destroyed...

So perhaps those in the private community went beyond the building codes than those outside of it. You can't really tell much from pictures. Have there been investigative studies done showing a flaglant problem with building code violations that resulted in inumberable deaths or destruction?

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Im trying to make a point for those that seem to not see what Im referring to. And it really well fits the discussion, since people are talking about codes and blablabla.. and Im trying to say that pretty much everywhere, in everycounty, nation.. this things happen, and that not even in the US codes are followed, even in areas where catastrophes ARE expected. And since this is an iran quuake vs. cali quake.. then why is people talking about WMD. Anyways.. what will you say if a Tsunami hits the west coast?!?! are they prepared for it?!?!?!.. no.. why?!?!?!.. because they have never experienced any, or at least.. not in years.. the same thing with this city in Iran.

That's not the point. Of course there are going to be violations of building codes everywhere you go. There is no such thing as a 100% compliance in ANY law. The point is is that there has been a systemic problem with the Iranian government in enforcing preventative laws enacted after the deaths of HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS civilian deaths. I think Neophono has established quite nicely a historical backdrop for why the Iranian government is culpable and at fault for its actions or lack thereof. The Iranian government richly deserves criticism in my opinion. I mean please, if we substitute the Iranian government with the Bush administration I KNOW I would not hear you making cross comparisons with other countries and arriving at the conclusion that "everybody else does it."

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Originally posted by LiquidX - Im trying to make a point for those that seem to not see what Im referring to. And it really well fits the discussion, since people are talking about codes and blablabla.. and Im trying to say that pretty much everywhere, in everycounty, nation.. this things happen, and that not even in the US codes are followed, even in areas where catastrophes ARE expected. And since this is an iran quuake vs. cali quake.. then why is people talking about WMD. Anyways.. what will you say if a Tsunami hits the west coast?!?! are they prepared for it?!?!?!.. no.. why?!?!?!.. because they have never experienced any, or at least.. not in years.. the same thing with this city in Iran.

i think with hurricane, although i am not sure, people have forewarning to them, so they can get out of the area. i know tsunami's are hard to track because they travel really fast (900mph i believe) and the waves are but 1 meter high until they get close to the shore. however tsunamis can be predicted because they happen after earthquakes, thus the region that it might hit could be informed. i would say the point is, since earthquakes cannot be predicted, they shoudl follow those building codes since they cannot warn people when it "might" happen, but they can for tsunamis and hurricanes (at least a little bit) compared to earthquakes which they cannot predict.

yes i realize i got off topic, so no need to respond with "hey you are off topic too and shit" sorry i missed your point earlier

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Originally posted by hardcore trancer woow what an intelligent comment there!!

LOL, coming from a not so intelligent guy. I think we should give him the Khalalalala treatment

I agree occrider.

When you look at the topic thread (Yes I know we hate to do this but...) we are comparing almost the same magnitute earthquake in California and in Iran.

Both of these areas have had very large earthquakes in the past 100 years, and so it is no suprise to any that they exist and can cause a lot of damage.

The California quake killed less than half a dozen, the Iranian quake killed tens of thousands.

If that does not testify to the preventive accountablity a government can do to avoid large damage and civilian deaths, I don't know what is. It shows us building codes are enforceable and work.

The difference is that in the past 100 years, California experienced the death and destruction that earthquakes can cause and decided to do something about it, Iran didn't.

Now if tens of thousand were killed in California today I am not so certain we would be sitting as quietly on this topic and say that the California government bears no fault whatsoever.

As an Iranian I absolutly agree with Dopey

The Arab lovers in power in Iran (most Arabs themselves) spend billions of dollars every year funding terrorist groups like Hizbullah in Lebenon and the Palastinian terrorists. The terrorist bombings in Turkey were clearly supported by the clergy in Tehran, as the cought bomber later testified but the bitch ass European fascists are doing everything in their power to keep a lead on it lest it should disrupt their economic relations with the terrorist government. It's not even a real government. It's a multitude of mafia families all operating independently.

Over 500 Billions Dollars in oil revenues over the last few years have disapeared. The world has pourd money, men and resources into the country after the quake but the people themselves havn't seen a fraction of it.

Israel has THE most skillful and trained people when it comes to disasters and pulling people our of rubble, not to mention their highly advanced medicine. Plus it's only 2 hours away from Iran. But the clergy decided to let thousands die then accept Israel's helps which they so eagerly were offering.

And the matter of the government spending more money on fucking Arabs then building safe houses for it's people need not even be mentioned.

PS: Vote Bush in 04 you yanky punks. We need the man in power damn you. He gets things done!

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Originally posted by Illusion And the matter of the government spending more money on fucking Arabs then building safe houses for it's people need not even be mentioned.

"put your foul tongue behind you" - Gangalf the White

If anyone else had said it I wouldn't have put my foul tongue behind me. But Gandalf the white! Wise wise man..

I am humbly forced to comply.

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Originally posted by Illusion If anyone else had said it I wouldn't have put my foul tongue behind me. But Gandalf the white! Wise wise man.. I am humbly forced to comply.

Aye, if it had been gandalf the Grey, he would have had no authority, as Saruman held power over him, but as Gandalf the White he clearly CAN command you to be quiet!

I'll be going now.

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Originally posted by occrider The ones they've admitted they've been trying to procure in the past. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dy...-2003Dec20.html Although admittedly it appears that Iran is becoming less of a threat by cooperating with the IAEA and submitting to spot inspections.

yeah trying... im trying to get a Alpina BMW M5

you know this may have of bugged me...

"An IAEA report made public in November revealed that Iran had secretly manufactured small amounts of uranium and plutonium, a violation of Iran's agreements under the nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty."

...but now that we are making more nukes and also breaking that treaty, it doesnt

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Originally posted by hadi ****** i think iran probably has building codes, but they dont follow them, or else so many people would not have died. although it is not the goverments fault that the earthquake struck, since they are unpredictable, it is their fault for not enforcing building codes.

that may be true. but the final answer according to the california earthquake center spokeswomen was that the earthquake in california, the fault line was away from anything major. while in iran, the fault line was right underneath the city, causing alot more destruction. so rebuilding that city would be the worst idea.

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Originally posted by rizen yeah trying... im trying to get a Alpina BMW M5

ahhh damn! I was going to get me one of those... bah, now I guess I'll have to chose somethign else.. after all I don't want to be seen driving the same vehicle as you.. thats like wearing the same thing to a party, and you know how girls make a big deal out of that shit

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Originally posted by Dopey Maybe Iran should spend more money on constructing 20th century houses and less money supporting terror and WMD programs. California---- Monday's magnitude-6.5 quake struck north of San Simeon near the central California coast and rumbled through the San Luis Obispo County countryside. The worst of the damage was about 30 miles east in Paso Robles, where two women were killed in the collapse of a 19th-century clock tower. Iran---- Iranian television said the magnitude 6.3 quake leveled about 60 percent of the houses in Bam, 630 miles southeast of the capital, killing many people as they slept. ... The Interior Ministry's early estimate on Saturday was 20,000 dead, while two leading rescue officials said the toll could eventually double.

oh my fucking god.... how could you say that?! we spend more money on terrorism than any other country in the world. thats insane. geez... youre brainwashed dude...

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Originally posted by Yoepus ahhh damn! I was going to get me one of those... bah, now I guess I'll have to chose somethign else.. after all I don't want to be seen driving the same vehicle as you.. thats like wearing the same thing to a party, and you know how girls make a big deal out of that shit

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Originally posted by trancedfarmer oh my fucking god.... how could you say that?! we spend more money on terrorism than any other country in the world. thats insane. geez... youre brainwashed dude...

The United States dropped three times as many tons of explosives in Vietman as it dropped in all theaters of World War II, including Hiroshima and Nagasaki. The United States has bombed over 20 countries and killed over 8 million people.

also mother nature or should i say GOD, is the best terrorist, doesnt cost her/him/it a thing

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Originally posted by rizen also mother nature or should i say GOD, is the best terrorist, doesnt cost her/him/it a thing

I can see it now, the war on terrorism will be branded the new holy war.

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Originally posted by trancedfarmer oh my fucking god.... how could you say that?! we spend more money on terrorism than any other country in the world. thats insane. geez... youre brainwashed dude...

that wasn't my point at all. my point is that only 2 ppl died in cali. i certainly didn't entitle this thread "the US terror fund" if I had wanted to talk about that I would have made a thread about it.

well, I'm not gonna read all this bullshit, but my two cents:

Was the magnitude of the quakes measured from the epicentre, or from the cities hit in the California quake, and the Iran quake? If from the epicentre, then it's quite possible Bam was hit harder by a quake of the same magnitude.

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Originally posted by Mosaic well, I'm not gonna read all this bullshit, but my two cents: Was the magnitude of the quakes measured from the epicentre, or from the cities hit in the California quake, and the Iran quake? If from the epicentre, then it's quite possible Bam was hit harder by a quake of the same magnitude.

bam was not in the epicenter.

there were cali towns near the cali epicenter.

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Originally posted by Yoepus I can see it now, the war on terrorism will be branded the new holy war.

But it already is, ask Bin Laden what he thinks about it.

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Originally posted by Dopey bam was not in the epicenter.

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Originally posted by rizo that may be true. but the final answer according to the california earthquake center spokeswomen was that the earthquake in california, the fault line was away from anything major. while in iran, the fault line was right underneath the city, causing alot more destruction. so rebuilding that city would be the worst idea.

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Originally posted by Dopey there were cali towns near the cali epicenter.

yep there were towns, not small or large cities anywhere close to the epic center. the closes one was probably bakersfield or san louis obispo which nothing major happened, nor did anyone die in those cities.

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