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Originally posted by DrUg_Tit0 Oh so an allignment of planets which happened near the time of Jesus's supposed birth is evidence enough to confirm his existance?

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Originally posted by albertoR yes

HOw does that prove anything?????

It proves that he is the one that marked time. Thats why we use B.C,A.D. U do see those in the history books.

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Originally posted by albertoR It proves that he is the one that marked time.

Oh, so an allignement of planets is a divine time marker which happens exclusively when god's son is born (although with a 6 year margin of error)? What about the alignment that happened a few years ago? Is that supposed to be an announcement of the coming of antichrist?

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Thats why we use B.C,A.D. U do see those in the history books.

We use those terms because of the christian doctrine. Let us, however, not mix up christianity with factual happenings. The fact that christianity believes Jesus was really born and that it based it's time counting on that supposed birth is really not a direct proof of Jesus's existance.

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Originally posted by albertoR The planets were aligned the day that Jesus was born, called the star of bethleham that is proven by astronomical charts which dated jesus's birthday 6 years before the gregorian calendar.

I feel like a broken record here, but if you want to prove his existence, then kindly go back to my first post and discuss the historical records from from the time when Jesus supposedly existed. Unless you're willing to talk about them, then you really have basis whatsoever for claiming he existed. The bible can easily be discounted as a factual record of, well, anything, and without that, what do you have?

Theres a solution to all this rambling and that will stop this silly thread forever.

Convert to Islam.Join the fastest growing religion in the world!

At least here, you can prove that Muhammad ACTUALLY existed.

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Originally posted by trewqy Theres a solution to all this rambling and that will stop this silly thread forever. Convert to Islam.Join the fastest growing religion in the world! At least here, you can prove that Muhammad ACTUALLY existed.

HA, great post, however, most people choose to stay away from a religion that the deeper you dive into, the more hate you find it sends as its message! I rather be... Baha'i - they do afterall have a beautiful garden!

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Originally posted by trewqy Theres a solution to all this rambling and that will stop this silly thread forever. Convert to Islam.Join the fastest growing religion in the world! At least here, you can prove that Muhammad ACTUALLY existed.

more like "abandon your religion and turn to science!" am i right?

[/offensive jest]

i also learned about Jesus in my history class in school. But I consider the Bible to be a historical record as much as it is a religious record. I don't differentiate between the Bible and other history books. The Gospels were written by 70 different historians if I'm not mistaken.

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Originally posted by Palestinian i also learned about Jesus in my history class in school. But I consider the Bible to be a historical record as much as it is a religious record. I don't differentiate between the Bible and other history books. The Gospels were written by 70 different historians if I'm not mistaken.

Great, you learned about Jesus in your history class. Well, I guess it is true then. Sorry, I went to the best high-school in Oklahoma and he seemed to never be mentioned in mine, hmmmm.... why is that, oh yeah, there is no proof of his exsistance outside of the bible. Are you missing the point entirely here? Look at artic repeatedly mentioning that there is only that historical record of him. The other ones are shotty to say the least and arctic already told you why. Please, if you have a record of signifigance that you want to post that helps prove his existence, please do so.
"Historians" or searchers of explainations and an after-life? Maybe power/fame hungry. Each of their own opinion? Contradictions, we have been through this before...

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