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Posted by djeternal on Mar-05-2004 03:42:

Christian...non denomination...amen!


Posted by arctic on Mar-05-2004 06:01:

quote:
Originally posted by occrider
Kind of. Scientifically I'm an aethesit. Spirtually, I'm a deist/catholic. I do believe that we know virtually nothing of God, but I do believe in some basic principles that he exists, is good, just, etc. The bible attempts to capture his interaction with the world but I firmly believe the bible is 90% crap. However, I don't discount the fact that God may have some kind of interaction with the world. Ultimately my faith is logically unjustifiable. However, that's why it is called faith ...


/me is confused

Nah, I sort of see where you're coming from. I'm also chuffed that I can call you illogical. I've always wanted to do that...


Posted by Orbax on Mar-05-2004 06:07:

out of curiosity, why would you call yourself catholic if you dont believe in the Bible hehe. God isnt just a Catholic christian thing, and the main pointers of the Catholics are the belief in venial and mortal sins, purgatory, priestly messengers of God, the Virgin Mary and the immaculate conception, and so forth.

In other words, if it was Illegal to be a Catholic, would there be a case against you?


Posted by occrider on Mar-05-2004 06:15:

quote:
Originally posted by Orbax
out of curiosity, why would you call yourself catholic if you dont believe in the Bible hehe. God isnt just a Catholic christian thing, and the main pointers of the Catholics are the belief in venial and mortal sins, purgatory, priestly messengers of God, the Virgin Mary and the immaculate conception, and so forth.

In other words, if it was Illegal to be a Catholic, would there be a case against you?



Well, I guess for a lack of a better understanding, I considered myself catholic since I was raised catholic. But I suppose, if anything I'm some kind of aetheist sect of christianity believing only in god, jesus, and a few portions of the bible as a historical text.

Oh ... and it's very possible that if I was born unto an aetheist family that I would not be christian at all. I dunno, maybe all those sunday school classes brainwashed me ... it's difficult to reconcile my rationality in this matter. Therefore I keep my personal faith and reason separate


Posted by Orbax on Mar-05-2004 06:35:

youre weird *pokes the strange man*


Posted by beema on Mar-05-2004 06:49:

Agnostic
I think


Posted by arctic on Mar-05-2004 06:51:

quote:
Originally posted by beema
Agnostic
I think


Dictionary.com:

1. One who believes that it is impossible to know whether there is a God.
2. One who is skeptical about the existence of God but does not profess true atheism.


Posted by beema on Mar-05-2004 06:52:

quote:
Originally posted by arctic
Dictionary.com:

1. One who believes that it is impossible to know whether there is a God.
2. One who is skeptical about the existence of God but does not profess true atheism.



Sounds about right, kind of like a borderline Atheist?


Posted by arctic on Mar-05-2004 07:25:

quote:
Originally posted by beema
Sounds about right, kind of like a borderline Atheist?


Sort of. Not really though, although the two are closely related. There are actually two common atheistic positions. One is strong atheism, which asserts that god cannot and does not exist, full stop. That is generally referred to as strong atheism (From memory Diginut is a strong atheist, he might be able to expand on this if you've got any queries). Then there's 'weak' atheism (which is what I subscribe to), which is essentially a disbelief in the existence of god. It isn't ruling it out, but the weak atheist asserts that the burden of proof is on the theist (as does strong atheism, mind you), and until some evidence for the existence of god is presented or discovered, then one must assume that god does not exist, just as one assumes that invisible flying elephants don't exist.

An agnostic might believe that it is impossible to know either way, therefore bringing them into direct conflict with the strong atheist position, or they may simply consider the question unimportant. Personally, I think that the first position is far more reasonable than the second , as I think that the existence of god is a fundamentally important issue that everyone should confront/consider eventually.

The chap in my avatar (Bertrand Russell) was an agnostic philosopher & mathematician, and is generally considered to be one of the greatest thinkers ever to have lived, so you're in good company.


Posted by cviper on Mar-05-2004 10:03:

quote:
Originally posted by arctic
[...] or they may simply consider the question unimportant.


That pretty much describes my point of view.

If someone wants to belive in some god, that's ok with me, as long as they wont start bothering me about it. Unfortunatly alot of people don't see it that way and tend to think that their religion/god/whatever is last way to "save my soul".

Those people are annoying.


Posted by StealthAssassin on Mar-05-2004 10:25:

Agnostic


Posted by SuperFarStucker on Mar-05-2004 11:01:

when arctic changes his avatar that post will read funny to unsuspecting victims. mwahaha


Posted by Ste on Mar-05-2004 11:39:

naturalist.




NOT naturist :|


Posted by Quantized on Mar-05-2004 11:42:

quote:
Originally posted by Dmatrox
are there no islamic people here?


i am teh islamic

dont follow it though...pile a shite...


Posted by arctic on Mar-05-2004 12:31:

quote:
Originally posted by SuperFarStucker
when arctic changes his avatar that post will read funny to unsuspecting victims. mwahaha


I'm so changing it to a picture of Ali G or someone/something equally idiotic.


Posted by MisterOpus1 on Mar-05-2004 16:44:

I am the founder of the Great Cookie Monster from the Planet Zoinks! As of today I have 10 other followers, and that number is growing:

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...threadid=160221

Some of our beliefs we advocate:

1. Thou shalt not worship any other monsters except Cookie Monster

2. Thou shalt not steal anyone else's cookies, except Cookie Monster can when no one is looking.

3. Thou shalt be allowst to inserst as many chocolate chips as thou wishes when baking cookies.

4. Thou shalt always enjoy a cup of cold milk whenst thou eateth thy divine cookies.

5. Thou shalt not consider thy Cookie Monster a mere puppet, nor shall thou consider Cookie Monster not actually eating thou Divine Cookies in Thy Heavenly Closed Black Puppet Mouth, resulting in Thy cookie crumbles not being truly digested in Thy Heavenly Stomach and are merely spread all over Thy floor. It is all a lie - Cookie Monster doust indeed eat Thy Cookies and doust indeed digest every crumble. To consider anything otherwise is blasphemous, and thou shall surely be punished by death.

Just 5 rules, nothing more. Now, one must ask oneself, "Whom should I follow now?"


Posted by u4ea:[soulstar] on Mar-06-2004 09:01:

quote:
Originally posted by Lira
I focus my studies on the Theravada tradition (aka South/South-east Asia Buddhism), but I try not to ignore the other schools (even because there are no Theravada temples where I live ), so I also read about the Mahayana Tradition (temples here are all Mahayana) and I've studied a bit about Tibetan Buddhism (mainly in university) as well.

A detailed explanation on Theravada is available if you click the link I posted


I am familar with it. What schools in mahayana?


Posted by u4ea:[soulstar] on Mar-06-2004 09:12:

quote:
Originally posted by Orbax
youre weird *pokes the strange man*


transitional dualism with dominates. having a spiritual relationship with both Jesus and Siddartha. Evolving into another model. A general scale I figured out it.

xianism, islamism -> atheism -> agnosticism -> gnosticism (ie: buddhism, hinduism, jainism) -> Ascensionship --> who knows???


Posted by Synchronized on Mar-06-2004 11:59:

raised a hindu though im not hugely religious


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