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amateur sounds like re-hashed fruityloops garbage....i think it should be removed as there are many good production showed @ this forum.

Re: unsigned

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Originally posted by i3production I got it! what about : Unsigned Trance Producers Promotion

then the signed ppl would all go away? they do post some samples

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Originally posted by Mario432 whatever happens please dont do 2 forums.. because the best part is the diversity, and amateurs getting pro advice. Having a pro and an amatuer would create too much confusion also about who should post where, and 'am i good enough for the other one" stuff.. so yeah thats my take...

Agreed. It should be one way or the other. But I think the "amateur" should stay for the reasons I mentioned above.

I think people are looking at the word Amateur as a negative one, because it somehow suggests bad quality. This isn't the case though. Think of the best producers you know, when they made that first killer track they were amateurs too

I voted 'NO' because there is a mix of productions (amatuer, advanced, professional)in here, but 'Amateur' is inviting for new producers. Plus I don't judge anything that is amatuer as a bad thing. We are here to help each other, and it doesn't matter whether you are pro or amatuer or beginner. It's about the music, and the name of the forum is not gonna reflect or influence my opinions on the people, and most importantly, the music that they create in here.

Oh, and to get technical, someone can have a professional quality production, but not be professional. You have to get paid or signed for the track in order to be professional. My two cents.

I think "amateur" is great, it still gives more advanced users a change to give tips to producers with less experience. This way there's more discussion and value for producers area.

Is there a deadline for this discussion or is it ongoing indefinitely?

these are discussions that go forever ................& beyond blah.

Ive been playing musical instruments all my life & have thousands & thousands of years worth of experience. With all this musical knowledge stored in my cranium I only have one very important thing to add to this discussion: & that thing is persistance! I am persistantly dribbling crap. I am the musical wizard of crapology! Crap crap crap. & my point is crap. & then crap is all crap something crap. I think ive reached my pointless!

Yes, the word amateur should be removed.

This forum includes productions from all experience levels, not just an amateur level. In the end what makes a producer no longer an amateur, a signed release, and then they all of sudden become a pro! Music is a domaine where people always learn something new all the time. This forum is a great place for producers of all levels to give each other advice and learn from one another.

Trance.nu came with a good title of "artist promotion", but I also put my vote for "music producer promotion" or just simply "producer promotion".

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Originally posted by davidemonin Yes, the word amateur should be removed. This forum includes productions from all experience levels, not just an amateur level. In the end what makes a producer no longer an amateur, a signed release, and then they all of sudden become a pro! Music is a domaine where people always learn something new all the time. This forum is a great place for producers of all levels to give each other advice and learn from one another. Trance.nu came with a good title of "artist promotion", but I also put my vote for "music producer promotion" or just simply "producer promotion".

true that. but i got another take ...

Anyone can make music. A musicial produces music
A Pro producer is someone who is in the career of producing & know his tool of the trade like the back of his hand. It takes a little bit of time to learn programs such as propellerhead Reason & Cubase. An amature may be someone just starting out with demos of these programs or generic versions, & hasn't quite become 'one' with the program yet. grasshopper.

Its a bit like porn. You got amatures that can make porn in their back yards & then you got the pros that do it in the studio. much of a muchness. grasshopper. When someone says 'amature' i think of a handheld footage of a virgin babe getting a rogering. Pro or not, its still good - the music that is. Unless they are a dead knock. then it is just boring. grasshopper.

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Originally posted by Xenocreator_PG_ Its a bit like porn. You got amatures that can make porn in their back yards & then you got the pros that do it in the studio. much of a muchness. grasshopper. When someone says 'amature' i think of a handheld footage of a virgin babe getting a rogering. Pro or not, its still good - the music that is. Unless they are a dead knock. then it is just boring. grasshopper.

Now that is some funny shit. So True. Amen.

.. Some amateurs should have their hands on the pro stuff, and the other way around, IMO!

Oh, sorry, I was still talking about the porn. But it holds for music as well lol

Absolutely; it should be removed. Who's got the right to say who is an amatuer and who isn't?

i might repeat the others. anyway... i think 'producers promotion' is the best choice. it includes the pro's and the amateurs.

does this vote ever gonna end?

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Originally posted by .A.Y. does this vote ever gonna end?

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Originally posted by Xenocreator_PG_ these are discussions that go forever ................& beyond blah.

Amateur ???? grrr no way !!!

The discussion continues.

I personally don't mind being labelled an 'amateur producer' - that way people expect my tracks to be really bad and can then be pleasantly surprised (in rare cases ). On a serious note, I think that the community element of the forum would disappear if this became a forum for 'pwoper' music producers. At the end of the day, we are amateurs, aren't we?

Amateur = not making profit
Pro = Making profit

Quality has nothing to do with it.

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery Amateur = not making profit Pro = Making profit Quality has nothing to do with it.

That's what I thought, I just said it in a spasticated way.

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Originally posted by soundrush i might repeat the others. anyway... i think 'producers promotion' is the best choice. it includes the pro's and the amateurs.

I agree... That would work best.

cor fijneman is considered (by some :P) as a pro producer, but ive gotta say his remix of Major League - Wonder wasnt worth releasing..
So keep the amateur... im gonna post here even if ive got releases

yeah.. lets remove the "amateur" from the title....

maybe Armin van Buuren would be looking for some feedback..

just music producers forum would be fine i think.

yes,

not all producers on here are amateurs. There are some very good and very professional producers on here.

//djlight

Yes, because I don't consider myself an amateur.

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