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Posted by Skipper on Mar-21-2004 03:21:

Re: Re: what the #$%% are you doing stupid

quote:
Originally posted by Waxen

-Sarah
p.s. your attitude sucks


lol I thought this read

"PS - Sarah your attitude sucks"


Posted by Slag on Mar-21-2004 03:35:

Re: Re: Re: what the #$%% are you doing stupid

quote:
Originally posted by Skipper
lol I thought this read

"PS - Sarah your attitude sucks"


Yea i hate your attitude. It sucks.

j/k


Posted by dEsidEL on Mar-21-2004 04:06:

KarateKid



here's some classic reading for y'all ..



http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...&threadid=91580

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...&threadid=91031

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...&threadid=91340

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...&threadid=91025

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...&threadid=62907

http://www.tribemagazine.com/board/...&threadid=17667

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...&threadid=63734

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...&threadid=63619

sounds like a broken record to me ..

btw. does anyone remember this?

quote:


I would like to personally address concerns regarding the Labour Of Love party this past Sunday, September 1, 2002. An over abundance of people attended the event, much to our surprise. For most clubs and promoters this is a dream come true, for us - we had a nightmare on our hands.



The entire evening was dedicated to working crowd control and keeping everyone safe and walkways clear. This effected people who chose to walk around and see the various rooms and Dj's. As most of you witnessed this job was not an easy one. In total we had on staff 45 in-house security, 25 outside security and 10 Metro Police Officers along with 2 medic�s. We were overwhelmed at the amount of people who just kept coming. Most begged admittance even after waiting in line for an extended period of time.(some over 2 hours) Attempting to accommodate everyone I personally heard every excuse in the book �It�s my birthday�, �Half my group is already inside�, �My Girlfriend already went in� and on and on. Even after informing people that they would probably not get in. We are in the process of completing a door count and have over 500 fraudulent tickets unaccounted for, which in turn increases the volume.



The line-ups were unavoidable, we only allow so many people in the building at one time. Searching is also mandatory for each patron, this slows down the door but I think you�ll all agree that it is necessary for everyone�s safety. For these reasons we utilized the parking lot outside and offered complimentary music and entertainment for everyone.



I would like to personally apologize if you found your experience here on Sunday less than positive. Please except my invitation for you and a guest to attend a show or event of your choice over the next 3 months.



Sincerely

Charles Khabouth

Owner � The Guvernment Entertainment Complex



Posted by dEsidEL on Mar-21-2004 04:09:

KarateKid



wow .. i even manage to find my old review from Labour of Love I ..

quote:
Originally posted by dEsidEL
ok .. i'm gonna say flat out that i fucking rip this party to shit. Don't get me wrong it started off REAL good. Headed off with my girl and a friend and then met up with some other friends which then was able to get the rest of the TA crew into the line (you guys know who you are: Time2Burn, LKD, Infinity, etc..) anyhow.. after that it all went downhill..

when we got inside we noticed right away that it was overly packed, not nearly as bad, but this is where it gets worse. There was this huge ass pack of people trying to ram themselves into the Orange Room which to eventually get into the Guv mainroom. Anyhow, this line had absolutely no organization WHATSOEVER. People were shoving and trying to plow their way in and the stupid ass bouncer was only lettin in like 1 or 2 people at a time. Why ? I have no fucking clue, if someone could please tell me do. Anyways, so yea there we all are trying to get inside and I am being squeezed like a fucking pancake eventually luckily enough pop in through. Unfortunately for my 5"4 girlfriend it wasn't that easy. She was almost crushed to death and this I swear on my life almost suffocated and DIED. When she finally got through she was short on breath and I could tell was labouring. We walked further into the club without notice until finally while heading to Skybar inside the Drink she started to hyperventilate (sp?) REALLY heavily and was all red and crying. Apparently while trying to get into the Orange Room she was almost crushed to death by 4 bigger guys. I felt extremely bad that I wasn't able to help her there since I myself was being pushed away by others. So she started choking and at one point I got extremely scared and my friends were all freaked out. We were extremely lucky we got to Skybar in time or there is no doubt in my mind that she would have suffocated to death. After this ordeal, the rest of my night was not the same. I am fortunate to say that she managed to recover but I was totally no longer in the mood for partying and the rest of the evening being so packed everywhere in the club didn't help at all.

I have now come to the final conclusion that the owners of Guvernment have absoluately no regard for human lives whatsoever. That place is so overly packed with people there is no way in hell that place is abiding by the fire code. If a fire broke out in that place and they had to evacuate people would be trampled to death and there would be a huge tradgedy.

So anyways to end this off, that pretty much ruined my whole nite. I didn't manage to catch a whole lot of Armin's set and despite trying to get into it at sometime it was almost impossible with all the people everywhere. I spent most of the time dodging Conan the Barbarian and his friends cutting through the dance floor than being able to dance myself.

I really want to say this to a lot of you that no matter how good Guvernment is as a club (which it is from a technical standpoint) that place is run on pure greed. Every single time i go there it just seems to keep getting more packed and packed each time and I think this time it's really hit my limit. Armin could have played the best trance set I've heard in my life but with the way the crowd was moving in there that night as well as the unbearable HEAT (where the fuck are the fans??) I could not take it any longer and alas left before 5am.

I HONESTLY believe that this WILL be my last time going to Guv for a very long time. I know dancing would have been a lot easier being with the big group of TA's but I kinda lost touch with you guys into the night and unfortunately was unable to spot Mr. Beacon Az. Anyhow I hope most of you guys had a lot better time than I did. I'm gonna take a Guv hiatus for a little while. I need to think about a couple of things for a bit.. I was very close to losing someone I really love last night and I think it's sort of changed my mindset.

Cheers to you guys, and hope u keep the good vibes going.


sadly, i'm no longer with the girl i was with at the time of this incident .. i've been been back to the Guvernment since this incident, but i highly doubt that she has ..

if any of you have read thru the LoL1 review again, u might be astonished to see how angry TOTA actually got after that event.. here's the link:

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...&threadid=62907


Posted by bossi on Mar-21-2004 04:47:

Behold, my arse. omg do u want to check my crack too!?!?

i agree!!!

i was at the guv on march 13th for ferry, everytime we go to the club my friend and i get searched to the extreeemez...
On this particular night they even made my friend take off his shoes not to mention the amount of times the bouncers grabbed our balls. i think there should definately be some sort of policy on this.

btw. great site !!


Posted by techno_freak on Mar-21-2004 05:28:

ur bitching cause guv is bringing in talnet (fuck,like its only club thats doing that!?!?) ur whining cause its rammed. fuck. ok, so it was. it happend first time since Labou of Love.

crowd flow been preatty good since than. ur still bitching, and now ur going to some fucking corupted fire marshall. thats fucking sick! sick! i dont post much here, but man, ur like little kids. yestaday Lawer was ass rammed at System?!

room2dance (i still dont know why did u get ur new nick) go to FM and tell him that system was rammed. i hope u will go! cause theres no way that i had more room to dance than at guv. no fucking way. and theres search. u get ur balls touched once and ur bitching. fuck. its FOR UR OWN SAFETY!

dont know, maybe they care so much for safty or maybe,their ain't getting any!!! who cares. at least iam sure no one is bringing weapons inside. fuck. stop crying, live with it. its fucking life!! and if u have nothing better to do than running and telling fire M that guv is packed, get a life...

edit: no offense to anyone, i am just pissed


Posted by DigiNut on Mar-21-2004 05:35:

quote:
Originally posted by juice7
ur bitching cause guv is bringing in talnet (fuck,like its only club thats doing that!?!?) ur whining cause its rammed. fuck. ok, so it was. it happend first time since Labou of Love. crowd flow been preatty good since than. ur still bitching, and now ur going to some fucking corupted fire marshall. thats fucking sick! sick! i dont post much here, but man, ur like little kids. yestaday Lawer was ass rammed at System?! room2dance (i still dont know why did u get ur new nick) go to FM and tell him that system was rammed. i hope u will go! cause theres no way that i had more room to dance than at guv. no fucking way. and theres search. u get ur balls touched once and ur bitching. fuck. its FOR UR OWN SAFETY! dont know, maybe they care so much for safty or maybe,their ain't getting any!!! who cares. at least iam sure no one is bringing weapons inside. fuck. stop crying, live with it. its fucking life!! and if u have nothing better to do than running and telling fire M that guv is packed, get a life...

edit: no offense to anyone, i am just pissed

How is it "fucking life?" People shouldn't try to change anything in their lives?

What exactly is your attachment to the Guv? Do you work for them? We're not bitching because the Guv is bringing in talent, we're bitching because they're bringing in twice the amount of people that the building can hold along with that talent. I wasn't at System but I highly doubt the place has EVER been THAT packed.

Dude you don't even know what you're talking about, nothing you said makes any sense. Just be quiet.


Posted by ShadoWolf on Mar-21-2004 05:45:

Evil1

I thought you were referring to the crook in my sig.


Posted by aarontrance on Mar-21-2004 06:52:

Emery: I remember reading the labour of love review a LONG time ago. fking brutal is all I can say to that.

Oddly enough I remember also saying to myself I would never go the GUV if it was going to be like that.

Now seeing as I've never actually been, and that they get some big name DJ's in there every few weeks, I don't think it being shutdown is what anyone really wants. Hell even when viva was packed in September at about 4am I thought it was too full to dance, and according to these stories about the GUV it's much much worse.

I hope things getting sorted out with the GUV before I turn 19 or else I won't be going there even for someone like Tiesto


Posted by techno_freak on Mar-21-2004 15:24:

quote:
Originally posted by DigiNut


What exactly is your attachment to the Guv? Do you work for them? .[/COLOR][/FONT]


yes, charles my father theres no attachment! and dude read carefully, cause some people are bitching that its the guv thats bringing in talent. and they are upset cause of that. yea right, like its the only club thats doing that (boa,system even distrikt in the last copule of days!)maybe they have better promotors,maybe thaty have more money. who cares. DEAL with it. money buys everything these days,and guv is doing whats it supposed to do. dont get upset cause ferry isnt playing at boa or system!and dont tell me to be fuckin quiet.


Posted by ++ EGO ++ on Mar-21-2004 15:38:

quote:
Originally posted by DigiNut

Dude you don't even know what you're talking about, nothing you said makes any sense. Just be quiet.


lol, exactly what I'm thinking!


Posted by loca on Mar-21-2004 15:49:

Did Charles K really write that? Beacuse the amount of spelling mistakes in it are horrendous and i would hope that he would have someone at least proofread what he wrote


Posted by Skipper on Mar-21-2004 16:11:

quote:
Originally posted by juice7
and dont tell me to be fuckin quiet.


well stop being an idiot!


Posted by Waxen on Mar-21-2004 18:31:

Re: Re: Re: what the #$%% are you doing stupid

quote:
Originally posted by Skipper
lol I thought this read

"PS - Sarah your attitude sucks"


no not at all - I'm Sarah!


Posted by Fir3start3r on Mar-21-2004 21:33:

quote:
Originally posted by juice7
ur bitching cause guv is bringing in talnet (fuck,like its only club thats doing that!?!?) ur whining cause its rammed. fuck. ok, so it was. it happend first time since Labou of Love. crowd flow been preatty good since than. ur still bitching, and now ur going to some fucking corupted fire marshall. thats fucking sick! sick! i dont post much here, but man, ur like little kids. yestaday Lawer was ass rammed at System?! room2dance (i still dont know why did u get ur new nick) go to FM and tell him that system was rammed. i hope u will go! cause theres no way that i had more room to dance than at guv. no fucking way. and theres search. u get ur balls touched once and ur bitching. fuck. its FOR UR OWN SAFETY! dont know, maybe they care so much for safty or maybe,their ain't getting any!!! who cares. at least iam sure no one is bringing weapons inside. fuck. stop crying, live with it. its fucking life!! and if u have nothing better to do than running and telling fire M that guv is packed, get a life...

edit: no offense to anyone, i am just pissed


Yo...grammar alert...
the [ENTER] button is on the right...


Posted by Guvaholic on Mar-22-2004 01:13:

quote:
Originally posted by Crazy Serb
here we go again...

Exactly..... This is the dumbest thread and Idea I've ever seen. Let's tell the authorities... you fucking twit. I'll agree that Guv has lost a lot of it "underground" feel, but Guv is the best source of great music right now in Toronto. Not to mention there sound and lighting. Do you really want to see Guv close?? ALL clubs in Toronto get packed. Go complain about them you MORON. I don'tthink anyone likes when a club is that packed. But what would you rather have? you and a couple of your loser friends dancing around guv by yourselfs?... Get a life fucking poser


Posted by Guvaholic on Mar-22-2004 01:17:

quote:
Originally posted by juice7
ur bitching cause guv is bringing in talnet (fuck,like its only club thats doing that!?!?) ur whining cause its rammed. fuck. ok, so it was. it happend first time since Labou of Love. crowd flow been preatty good since than. ur still bitching, and now ur going to some fucking corupted fire marshall. thats fucking sick! sick! i dont post much here, but man, ur like little kids. yestaday Lawer was ass rammed at System?! room2dance (i still dont know why did u get ur new nick) go to FM and tell him that system was rammed. i hope u will go! cause theres no way that i had more room to dance than at guv. no fucking way. and theres search. u get ur balls touched once and ur bitching. fuck. its FOR UR OWN SAFETY! dont know, maybe they care so much for safty or maybe,their ain't getting any!!! who cares. at least iam sure no one is bringing weapons inside. fuck. stop crying, live with it. its fucking life!! and if u have nothing better to do than running and telling fire M that guv is packed, get a life...

edit: no offense to anyone, i am just pissed

Thank you.... E X A C T L Y !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Posted by Waxen on Mar-22-2004 01:58:

wow!

They are not going to close the Guv down because of a complaint. Chill out. If anything they will probably warn Guv to keep the limit of people lower than what it is. That's all. Guv probably doesn't give a shit even if they were to be "warned" by the authorities... not like it hasn't happenned already.


Posted by dEsidEL on Mar-22-2004 02:08:

KarateKid

quote:
Originally posted by Waxen
wow!

They are not going to close the Guv down because of a complaint. Chill out. If anything they will probably warn Guv to keep the limit of people lower than what it is. That's all. Guv probably doesn't give a shit even if they were to be "warned" by the authorities... not like it hasn't happenned already.




gotta excuse the hardcore "diehard" fans ..


Posted by techno_freak on Mar-22-2004 02:27:

its like a war here hehehe


Posted by Skipper on Mar-22-2004 02:28:

quote:
Originally posted by Guvaholic
Exactly..... This is the dumbest thread and Idea I've ever seen. Let's tell the authorities... you fucking twit. I'll agree that Guv has lost a lot of it "underground" feel, but Guv is the best source of great music right now in Toronto. Not to mention there sound and lighting. Do you really want to see Guv close?? ALL clubs in Toronto get packed. Go complain about them you MORON. I don'tthink anyone likes when a club is that packed. But what would you rather have? you and a couple of your loser friends dancing around guv by yourselfs?... Get a life fucking poser


Guv closing will increase demand on other clubs for sure. But if Guv ever closed due to fire code violations, you can bet that the other clubs in the city would not open their doors to accomodate Guv's crowd in excess of their own legal capacity.

If you value lasers and DJs and a sound system that isnt even the best in the city anymore over your own safety, kudos to you. But when something happens there and you're in the middle of it, you might not think so.


Posted by Skipper on Mar-22-2004 02:29:

P.S.


Posted by Guvaholic on Mar-22-2004 02:57:

quote:
Originally posted by Skipper
Guv closing will increase demand on other clubs for sure. But if Guv ever closed due to fire code violations, you can bet that the other clubs in the city would not open their doors to accomodate Guv's crowd in excess of their own legal capacity.

If you value lasers and DJs and a sound system that isnt even the best in the city anymore over your own safety, kudos to you. But when something happens there and you're in the middle of it, you might not think so.

I guess we'll all have to resort to Viva AKA "The Mandarin" HOW FUN!!! Dim Sum anyone??
All joking aside, I was there Friday and the music was crazy!


Posted by j_spot on Mar-22-2004 03:20:

quote:
Originally posted by Skipper
P.S.



hahahahah!!!

No Soundsystem, Laser, Lights or DJs make the unsafe cramped conditions tolerable.
There is no defense for what we are trying to change.


If they shut down, or have to make changes to the way they do buisness, then so be it.


Posted by konsl on Mar-22-2004 03:35:

Red face

room2dance
I think I speak for everyone when I say your dick is very, very miniature.

Regards,
-k


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