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Posted by charmscars on Apr-11-2004 21:45:

quote:
Originally posted by k0nk
My sources tell me the opposite.
Job fair for Lucid should be being held soon.


Cheapest? Not at guv at least. In my hometown, on thursday or saturday night, you'd be hard pressed to find a bar that charges more than $2.50 for a highball (Guv charges either 6, or 8$ on a saturday I believe). oh, and thats with a cover below $10 too.


does your hometown bar have a resident dj like mark oliver? bring in intl talenet regularly? is the price of land/rent the same in your home town as in toronto? there is no downtown club in TO or any other major city that has cheap drinks on a weekend night that is not a total dump. that's just the facts. there is a lot that goes into the price of a drink at an establishment. ofcourse small town clubs and bars are going to have cheaper prices. that goes w/o saying.


Posted by charmscars on Apr-11-2004 22:02:

there was a lot of big talk about how lotus and distrikt were going to come and take some of guv's clientele away. i belive distrikt is just a gino club that had that one techno club, and lotus went tits up after some disaterous nights and a very poor layout. so, i won't get too excited about a new club until i see it. the only real sucess story has been boa reduc as far as i'm concerned.


Posted by TANYA on Apr-11-2004 22:09:

I went to the guv last nite, it sucked...
I won't go there in the nearest future.
I thought it's packed on special nites, no way.. it's ALWAYS packed...
bye bye GUV, welcome a new club!!


Posted by Pett on Apr-11-2004 22:16:

ummm what club were u in last night? because guv was good last night and had tons of room to dance.......your must acually be crazy


Posted by Jayx1 on Apr-11-2004 23:19:

Where is your hometown? Petawawa?

Sure u can get your $2.50 shots in some crappy small town bar but i am comparing international cities and world class venues. To get what you get at Guvernment every week would set you back at least $200 or more per night anywhere else (after cover, drinks and parking)

Do you know how much money goes into the design, lighting and sound in that place not to mention the world class talent that comes through all the time?


Posted by Jayx1 on Apr-11-2004 23:25:

If you call Guv last night packed you need to stay home....

Plenty of room last night to dance


Posted by k0nk on Apr-12-2004 00:53:

quote:
Toronto has some of the cheapest clubbing prices in the world and thats a fact.


quote:
Do you know how much money goes into the design, lighting and sound in that place not to mention the world class talent that comes through all the time?


The discussion was drink prices on a city level, not on a club level.

Pretty much city wide, my hometown has cheap drinks on thursdays and saturday, and yes they do bring in some talent (Although, not as much as Toronto, but thats to be expected). For example, DJ Dan will be there, for $15, and there is no chance highballs will be more than $5, and thats not on cheapnight.


Posted by charmscars on Apr-12-2004 01:19:

quote:
Originally posted by k0nk
The discussion was drink prices on a city level, not on a club level.

Pretty much city wide, my hometown has cheap drinks on thursdays and saturday, and yes they do bring in some talent (Although, not as much as Toronto, but thats to be expected). For example, DJ Dan will be there, for $15, and there is no chance highballs will be more than $5, and thats not on cheapnight.


cities are just more costly and that transfers into drinks prices. just part of increased cost of living in urban areas. i think the point is, if you want to see a big DJ in europe or NYC or montreal you will be paying much higher prices than cover at Guv. there maybe thing abou the guv that ppl can rightly copalin about (packed during special evenst etc) but cost is not one of them whrn compared to other clubs both in TO and in big cities world wide.


Posted by Jayx1 on Apr-12-2004 04:27:

Even for being packed... ive been to clubs in other parts of the world that are so packed you can honestly not even move and constantly get squished. How do people dance? literally on each other! People were bouncing off of each other and using each other as support. It was actually a lot of fun!!


Posted by discojoe on Apr-12-2004 04:45:

the guvernment is a cheap club. anyone who has been to london knows that.

sounds like a cool place. but 55 000 square feet? eek i really dont know if toronto can support that


Posted by ladybass on Apr-12-2004 07:30:

it's about time someone used the old sega city space to create a club. i remember back in the day raves used to be held in that space until cops go wind of it.
if it's true that it is a 27 year old that owns the club now, what a great investment, if the liquor license gets approved and this club becomes all that it looks like it will be.

let's hope that this club will become another place where we can all go and dance and have a good time and see quality djs from Toronto and around the world.


Posted by PartyHarlequin on Apr-12-2004 14:02:

The only small problem that I know of regarding lucid is the quality of its "160,000" watt sound system. I believe a lot more money went into power over clarity and quality... The distortion in there could possibly blow out the walls.


Posted by TANYA on Apr-12-2004 14:18:

quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
If you call Guv last night packed you need to stay home....
Plenty of room last night to dance


Compare to the nite when Ferry was spinning- yes! it wasn't packed.
However,if you call "Plenty of room last night to dance", i guess you mean just standin in the crowd and shakin your head

Charle's was good...
AND ONE MORE TIME GUV SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Posted by swilly on Apr-12-2004 17:12:

quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
This place could be a contender in the Toronto (and global) clubscene if it meets these critieria:

-Stays open until at least 6am

-Doesnt have a dress code or at least only bans things like sports clothing and bandanas. (let the people decide their own style instead of the "cloning" that goes on in most Toronto clybs these days.

-If it isnt lit up like a supermarket (the massive screens and bright lighting could be troublesome)

-If it has cutting edge modern music (not just the crap on the radio)

-the sound and light show are state of the art (and im not just talking about plama screens.... i can watch tv at home)


.


No way smart casual dress code is the way to go. In europe that is who alot of the clubs are run. You can be wearing a dress shirt with black shoes and black trousers but if you got no style then no entrance. However, someone wearing smart trainers ripped jeans and old shirt could get it if they wear it with style. I am for dress codes but as long as they are based on it being smart. Besides its hard to dance in dress shoes
swilly


Posted by swilly on Apr-12-2004 17:14:

quote:
Originally posted by charmscars
does your hometown bar have a resident dj like mark oliver? bring in intl talenet regularly? is the price of land/rent the same in your home town as in toronto? there is no downtown club in TO or any other major city that has cheap drinks on a weekend night that is not a total dump. that's just the facts. there is a lot that goes into the price of a drink at an establishment. ofcourse small town clubs and bars are going to have cheaper prices. that goes w/o saying.


wrong !!!!!!!!!!!!! go to prague and budapest they are super cheap also bucharest

hahahah I win

in the developed world though you are right
swilly


Posted by chrismack on Apr-12-2004 17:41:

quote:
Originally posted by swilly
No way smart casual dress code is the way to go. In europe that is who alot of the clubs are run. You can be wearing a dress shirt with black shoes and black trousers but if you got no style then no entrance. However, someone wearing smart trainers ripped jeans and old shirt could get it if they wear it with style. I am for dress codes but as long as they are based on it being smart. Besides its hard to dance in dress shoes
swilly


The problem I have with this concept is that someone else gets to decide whether I have "style" or not. What if my style just happens not to be the same as the guy working the door? What if he thinks "style" is some Gino look with a dozen chains around your neck? What if he has a preference for Goth?

When the guy at the door decides who gets in or not, I go to another club.


Posted by Jayx1 on Apr-12-2004 19:49:

Mark Oliver told me once about a story in Scotland where they asked him what was happening inside the club. (ie what band or dj is playing). If you didnt know the answer they werent letting you in

I think thats the best and only style code a club should have!


Posted by dEsidEL on Apr-12-2004 19:52:

KarateKid

quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
Mark Oliver told me once about a story in Scotland where they asked him what was happening inside the club. (ie what band or dj is playing). If you didnt know the answer they werent letting you in

I think thats the best and only style code a club should have!




haha gold! i'm for this ..


Posted by ladybass on Apr-12-2004 19:54:

quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
Mark Oliver told me once about a story in Scotland where they asked him what was happening inside the club. (ie what band or dj is playing). If you didnt know the answer they werent letting you in

I think thats the best and only style code a club should have!


but what about tourists - something that Toronto is trying to attract.
if they don't know what is playing and they can't go in they won't be happy at all and would spread the word to friends or other people from overseas and that would totally hurt the club's business.

it's a cool concept but one that wouldn't fly here in Toronto because of the hurting tourism industry.


Posted by PartyHarlequin on Apr-12-2004 20:59:

quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
Mark Oliver told me once about a story in Scotland where they asked him what was happening inside the club. (ie what band or dj is playing). If you didnt know the answer they werent letting you in

I think thats the best and only style code a club should have!



What if you're wondering who is spinning atm, if it isn't the main event, I've been to many parties where I didn't know any of the DJs spinning but the main event.

Also, on some residence nights you may not have heard of or cared to look at who is playing if its your fav' club and you're just going there for the crowd.

I sometimes find myself not going to a party because of the crowd even if I want to hear the music.

And as far as dresscodes go, I'm for the whole style thing. I've gone to clubs with fairly harsh dress codes and gotten away with jeans, a rocawear shirt and a fitted Oakley hat. It's not about what you're wearing, It's all about how you look in what you're wearing.


Posted by swilly on Apr-12-2004 21:06:

quote:
Originally posted by chrismack
The problem I have with this concept is that someone else gets to decide whether I have "style" or not. What if my style just happens not to be the same as the guy working the door? What if he thinks "style" is some Gino look with a dozen chains around your neck? What if he has a preference for Goth?

When the guy at the door decides who gets in or not, I go to another club.


ehhh smart casual is pretty easy to decide on. Nice trainers like stylish ones Ie diesel adidas martial arts, puma, gola. from what i saw they always had this guy walking around which we called the fashion police. He would walk up and down the line and check people out. He was always very fashionable but not in the Gino sense but true fashion. a mixture of posh and rugged poor and rich look. or just funky.
Anyways i always thought this was a good system. as you dont just get dressed up twits with no sense of adeventure and you also dont get people with no effort.
you get funky well dressed people which is what it is supposed to be swilly


Posted by Jayx1 on Apr-12-2004 21:15:

My point is that some events should be about the music. If you only let in those who are there for the music you will get rid of the losers, idiots and skids that you are trying to keep out with stupid dress codes. Plus the vibe of the party would increase substantially.


Posted by dEsidEL on Apr-12-2004 21:50:

KarateKid



heh .. i hav a few old skool party flyers that still hav the "NO GINOS" logo on it .. classic!


Posted by PartyHarlequin on Apr-13-2004 12:28:

I wish I was partying back then lol, just to post up one of those flyers on my "Great Cork-Board of Party Flyers"!


Posted by SgtFoo on Apr-26-2004 21:14:

update!!

I stopped by Lucid today once more. The place is in full construction and the last bits of demolition are being torn away. The office was all busy and stuff.
I asked for a more specific date when they expect to be open fo business... and I was told it'll be about 6 to 8 weeks. That's not quite Spring seasion anymore (as per their posters), but anytime before Summer's over sounds good.


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