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| Originally posted by trancestar_uk think id have to agree on this one 99.9% of dutch trance is fuckin bollax just pisses me off, all sounds the same and is just pure cheese, nowdays the only trance i like is from uk, seem to have always been years ahead of mainland europe in terms of producing (with a few exceptions of course), dont know if its the lifestyle in mainland europe that influences the cheesy synths which all sound the same. there should be a new genre "typical trance" all dutch and belgian trance would appear under this sub genre as it all sounds the same and u know what to expect before u have even heard it, yet u get idiots in #armind shoutin "OMFG I DIE" at the same sound everyweek. boring as hell |
I'll pass by the argument that the LIFESTYLE of mainland europe is what makes the dutch trance so cheesy in silence, since you obviously just pulled it out of your ass with no evidence to back it up with.
Dutch cheese is the most delicious cheese in the world. Give me some Gouda any time. The bad thing about Armin is that his style has been rotting into McProg Kraft in order to appeal to the American mp3 kiddies.
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| Originally posted by Cobalt That's true. But people act as if no one is entitled to a negative opinion of Armin, either, which I find frustrating. Further, I have reasons why I hold the opinion I have of Armin, and I haven't heard any convincing counterargument. |
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| Originally posted by sandstorm03 Ozgur Can - Missing Line Portishead - Roads (Sultan & Tonedepth remix) Andain - Beautiful Things (Markus Schulz Remix) Whirlpool - Under the Sun (Solar Stone Remix) Mr. Sam vs. Fred Baker - Forever Waiting (Summer Calling Acapella) Mark Norman - Phantom Manor Mojado Feat Mr Sam - Naranja (Dimitri Andreas Vision) Remy & Ronald Klinkenberg - Monday Groove Sander van Doorn - Loaded Abel Ramos - Aquarius (Randy Katana Remix) Kay D Smith & Marc Tall Pres. Passive Resistance - Praiseworthy Tunes (Hoipolloi Mix) Marco V. - Godchild Pulser - Cloudwalking (Original Mix) Reysan Khan - Shiatsu (2 Players Remix) Freefall - Skydive Firewall - Sincere (Pulser Remix) Digital Delinquents - 2 Do Anything Dj Ton TB - Dream Machine Waterplanet - Introspection (John Askew Remix) Paul van Dyk - Buenaventura Anomaly - Calling Your Name (Thrillseekers Remix) Dj Tiesto feat. Bt - Love Comes Again (Mark Norman Remix) Thrillseekers - New Life (Lange remix) Agnelli & Nelson pres. Ultra - Holding On To Nothing (2003 Remix) Sarah McLachlan - Fallen (Gabriel & Dresden Remix) Oceanlab - Satellite (Markus Schulz Remix) Above & Beyond - No One On Earth (Gabriel & Dresden Remix) M.I.K.E. - Antwerp is Burning 2004 Theme Song Remy & Ronald Klinkenberg - Fearless Dj Danjo & Rob Styles - Duende Three Drives - Signs from the Universe Robert Nickson - Spiral Fictivsion vs. Phynn - Escape Push - Till We Meet Again The Quest - C-Sharp G & M Project - Sunday Afternoon Binary Finary - 1998 (Ronski Speed Remix) Motorcycle - As The Rush Comes (Armin van Buuren Remix) Jens - Loops & Things Relooped (Marco V. Remix) Solid Globe - Sahara Kyau vs. Albert - Velvet Morning Solar Factor - No Return Audioholics - External Probspot - Blueberry 4 Strings - Back To Basics The Freak - Rising Angel Artic Quest - Offbeat Midway - Amazon Armin van Buuren feat. Justine Suissa - Burned With Desire (Riley & Durant Remix) Electrique Boutique - Heal (Instrumental Mix) Perpetuous Dreamer � Future Funland Signum - Solar Level Witness Of Wonder - Emotions In Motion (Thrillseekers Remix) DJ I.C.O.N. - Voco Me (Flim Flam Remix) Airwave - Lady Blue Remy & Roland Klinkenberg - Till ya drop Not sure: George Hales - Autumn Solar Stone vs. Scott Bond - Naked Angel (Dynamic Sense Remix?) 7 hours of exactly the same style.....great job armin... |
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| Originally posted by TOR that's because trance is not about opinions it's about feelings, it comes with our genes. you cannot explain why you like or dislike someone's music.. people think they can, but it's impossible. it's a feeling, and there's nothing we can do about it. |
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| how is Blueberry similar to Loaded and to Spiral |
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| Originally posted by Sand Leaper Kinda harsh to judge trance from an entire continent on one country, don't you think? I'll pass by the argument that the LIFESTYLE of mainland europe is what makes the dutch trance so cheesy in silence, since you obviously just pulled it out of your ass with no evidence to back it up with. |
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| Originally posted by trancestar_uk think id have to agree on this one 99.9% of dutch trance is fuckin bollax just pisses me off, all sounds the same and is just pure cheese, nowdays the only trance i like is from uk, seem to have always been years ahead of mainland europe in terms of producing (with a few exceptions of course), dont know if its the lifestyle in mainland europe that influences the cheesy synths which all sound the same. there should be a new genre "typical trance" all dutch and belgian trance would appear under this sub genre as it all sounds the same and u know what to expect before u have even heard it, yet u get idiots in #armind shoutin "OMFG I DIE" at the same sound everyweek. boring as hell |
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| Originally posted by trancestar_uk well its not just one country really, i mean german trance is awfull apart from old pvd, belgium is awfull, mikes older stuff is great but he just uses the same synths and it gets vvvvv annoying |
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| Originally posted by Sand Leaper Yea of course, MIKE is all the trance Belgium has to offer, and Germany's only trance quality is PvD |
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| Originally posted by trancestar_uk thats my opinion and if u wanna flame me for it go ahead u didnt even have to reply |
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| Originally posted by Sand Leaper I just think it's rather ignorant to base your opinion on an entire country's trance music on one producer, but hey that's just me. |
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| Originally posted by trancestar_uk i havent based my opinion on any single producer |
i mostly agree with a lot of the armin negativety, but in all honesty i would still say he does a decent job as of now (read: he hasn't gone TOTALLY down the crapper, but hes getting closer and closer)
the one thing that pisses me off the most (by far more than anything else) is cheese like burned with desire being spun by him and of course even more so being produced by him (which is 10x worse then him just spinning it)
i mean for me its 10x times easier to tolerate mildly cheesy instrumental trance, but when he puts down vocal cheese, that fucking is totally inexcusable
on the bright site, there is sitll pretty decent trance still being released even in 2004, so its not all sad 
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| how is Blueberry similar to Loaded and to Spiral |
before saying anything let's see the DJ Mag Top. Armin is the 3rd. Whatever you can say, but it is great. You can say Armin is boring, anyway his live sets always is full of people. He plays great music, greater than lots of DJs. I don't wanna mention names who suck da dick, cause I don't wanna make a flame war
I respect your opinion, we are different
keep arminizing
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| Originally posted by YaleTrance The bad thing about Armin is that his style has been rotting into McProg Kraft in order to appeal to the American mp3 kiddies. |
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| Apparently a decline in what some would call quality results in an increase in popularity. |
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| Originally posted by sandstorm03 they arnt anything amazing, nothing to really get me going in a club, your basic asot tracks...trance fillers, loaded sounds cool the 1st few times, but gets old fast |
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| Originally posted by YaleTrance you can have opinions and theories about your feelings and appreciation values. it has been done in history for the past 200 years. |
mabe robert should tell us what he feels about tracks like universal nation/strange world...
tor, what makes armin better then most djs?
IMO his track selection, his transitions (harmonically impeccable), his interaction with the crowd..
in short: the energy he releases on to the dancefloor
i don't think he's better or anything, that's not important. music is not about "better" and "worse". he's just my favourite of the bunch
ok ill be quiet, if you could tell me what tracks armin plays, that are different from what other djs play.
what i like about him is that in his sets he combines uplifing, tech-trance, mcprog and sometimes even techno.
but he is no different from every other dj that playes thoes styles?
i can name tracks that tiesto play, and that paul play, that make them different but not armin.
different from what?
other DJ's started copying Armin, not the other way around
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