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| Originally posted by DrUg_Tit0 No, but I do not make naive teenage assumptions that whenever an unidentified bright light is noticed that the only reasonable explanation is an alien spaceship. UFO means unidentified flying object, not alien flying object. I have never stated that the lights are not alien spaceships, I have only said that it is not certain that they are alien spaceships, unlike you who are immediately jumping to conclusion without any serious confirmation. Again, the military provided evidence for unidentified lights, not alien spaceship lights. There may well have been other sources for those lights. And what is it that the US hides? |
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| Mexico has a long history of fanciful UFO sightings, most of which are dismissed by scientists as space debris, missiles, weather balloons, natural weather phenomena or hoaxes. http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=sto...exico_ufos_dc_1 |
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| Originally posted by j�c� what are humans anyway? |
OMG...aliens are coming...quick who wants to have sex? this may be your last chance hehe..
Pinkbox Special - The French Don't Cry
^^^^^^
music for the first landing...and for when they open the door and reveal themselves for the first time
ha, I have the answer to everyone. and it solves the problems of ufos and americas secrets.
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It is the US doing it all, hoowever I think you are overestimating the us's ability. Now they do not have the technology to cure aids, cancers or to make lightning fast ships. However it is the US controlling these things.
What I think the US realised early on is the fear of the unknown. If they can get skeptics to think they are hiding something, people assume it is high technology that others would want.....like new planes etc.
however instead of the real thing, they created ways to act like they have these things....as in they create these light displays to fool others into thinking it is a alien craft, or that it is a US test project. This increases fear, and you assume the worse.
the physics of making such a craft are just about impossible, however I would think it is very easy to fool IR screens, or home vids at night, or photos at night.
with this mexian thing it is very easy to fool people into thinking they were being followed, pilots fly by gauges and their radar at night....so any object on there is real....however if the us devised a way to fake such an event....outstanding....
they are fearful there is something out there that fast, and if it is linked to the US, it creates more fear of us.
so in the end, it is just like the crop circles, highly sophisticated spoofs making people believe in aliens and fearing the unknown.
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I only call it a theory becasue there has to be governement documentation somehwere to prove this wrong or right....however getting to that documentation would be extremely difficult, so it might be best to label this as a guess.
Take me to your leed0r... and while ur at it, gimme tacos

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| Originally posted by Floorfiller OMG...aliens are coming...quick who wants to have sex? this may be your last chance hehe.. |
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| Originally posted by Dopey lol gotta love that part in independence day...you dont wanna die a virgin do you????? |
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| Originally posted by Dopey the article i read said that they surrounded the jets. IMO, any UFO in the mexican sky is prolly some sort of american craft. they have all sorts of projects they test in the deserts. |
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| Originally posted by fbgdavidson Why would the Americans test over Mexico when there is the goddamn Pacific ocean there to overfly with nobody peeking??? |
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| Originally posted by fbgdavidson Why would the Americans test over Mexico when there is the goddamn Pacific ocean there to overfly with nobody peeking??? |
Of course they were UFO's. They were apparently flying, and obviously unidentified. Anything you see in the sky that you can't put a name to is an Unidentified Flying Object.
a quick probability lesson...
lets assume that we are the only planet with life in a galaxy of 100,000,000 stars
1/100,000,000 = .000000001
now if there are a 1,000,000,000 galaxies in a star system
.000000001 x 1,000,000,000 = 10
now if there are a 1,000,000,000 star systems in our universe
10 x 1,000,000,000 = 10,000,000,000
possible places with life on them.
ok ok the numbers are stupid, but that was just to make a point...i had a astronomy class once where my professor explained something like that and it sounded a lot better hehehe...i forget all of the levels too, so perhaps someone a little better in astronomy can explain...
CNN has picked up the story:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/ameri...s.ap/index.html
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| Originally posted by Floorfiller a quick probability lesson... lets assume that we are the only planet with life in a galaxy of 100,000,000 stars 1/100,000,000 = .000000001 now if there are a 1,000,000,000 galaxies in a star system .000000001 x 1,000,000,000 = 10 now if there are a 1,000,000,000 star systems in our universe 10 x 1,000,000,000 = 10,000,000,000 possible places with life on them. ok ok the numbers are stupid, but that was just to make a point...i had a astronomy class once where my professor explained something like that and it sounded a lot better hehehe...i forget all of the levels too, so perhaps someone a little better in astronomy can explain... |
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| Originally posted by Floorfiller |
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| Originally posted by Omegasox You skipped the most important part of it. The chance that a world will be suitable for life to evolve on it. Which is fairly stupid, because we're assuming life can only develop based on our composition and environment. They only consider carbon-based life forms. |
http://www.astro-tom.com/technical_data/alien_life.htm
No need to make up anything. It's all right there. The equation is a little ways down.
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| Originally posted by Floorfiller a quick probability lesson... lets assume that we are the only planet with life in a galaxy of 100,000,000 stars 1/100,000,000 = .000000001 now if there are a 1,000,000,000 galaxies in a star system .000000001 x 1,000,000,000 = 10 now if there are a 1,000,000,000 star systems in our universe 10 x 1,000,000,000 = 10,000,000,000 possible places with life on them. ok ok the numbers are stupid, but that was just to make a point...i had a astronomy class once where my professor explained something like that and it sounded a lot better hehehe...i forget all of the levels too, so perhaps someone a little better in astronomy can explain... |
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| Originally posted by Tranc3 As I said before, that's called Carl Sagan's 1% rule, except he did it better |
I'm from Texas, and a ailien just had sex with me!!
Hey dbb, it's somthing wrong with the reciver!!!

There is a great chance there is life out there. But then calculate the chances of them a, getting here....remember when calculating these probabilities of life it includes everything, even the places we can't see....b, that when they got here, they are hidding someplace....where the hell did they pick tent at?
again, I point to my theory of fear of the unknown, parsimony is on my side :P, it is much easier to make the illusion of aliens and fast spaceships than to actually have them.
So, the time is arriving, the draconians and their scionistic soldiers have already started to show their face. People fear not, the "epsilon eleusis" from andromeda is approaching as well , the ancient promise will be kept...
Crap I can't find it right now...I'll try to do it from memory as best I can. Only thing is, I don't remember his starting number, but I remember his finishing number...I think
100,000,000,000 galaxies in the universe. Let's say 1% of the galaxies have solar systems.
1,000,000,000 solar systems. Let's say 1% of these have planets capable of supporting life.
10,000,000 Planets capable of supporting life. Let's say 1% of these planets actually DO support life.
100,000 Planets with life. Let's say 1% of these planets are actually useful to our UFO purposes and support intelligent life.
1,000 Planets with intelligent life on them.
According to this model, we are left with 1000 planets in the universe that have intelligent life on them. Of course, what's to say it's 1% all the way down the chain?
That was the gist of his argument. I might not have gotten it perfectly because I did it from memory - all I remembered were the last 2 steps, the 1% thing, and the final number...so I just worked backwards.
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