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Originally posted by Jayx1 Its funny how so many threads get jacked.... period.

Jack...stay out of this...

I've been a TA for ohh maybe half a year now and I really enjoy the community and all the insider info, as well as benefits of being a TA

Honestly I like all sorts of electronica so trance/prog/whatever I like it all!

Some ppl take music (and life) waaayy to seriously

i really believe that progressive is an intelligent form of electronic music. whether its breaks, house or even trance. the reality is a lot of people cant be bothered to actaully "LISTEN" to the music & its complexity. all they want is cheesy catchy tunes that are fun which is fine.....but to say that progressive is sleeping music....well thats

progressive as a format (i.e. progressive trance) is waaaaaaaaaaaaaay more complex, intense & a lot more BRILLIANT than trance trance thats for sure. look @ old rock groups....progressive rock groups who's music speaks to us and tells us each a different story, an eyeopener if you may unlike that cheesy/alternative rock where what you hear in the lyrics is what you get...simple, basic, no brainer music!

anyway, thats my take between the two genres....

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Originally posted by The Highroller i would also guess that about half the people on here haven't made an effort and don't want to meet other TAs. an attitude that's pretty different than before.

I wouldn't say that.....I am about 2 months into actually posting on TA, and I have already met several TA members.....and I want to meet more of you


I think it is more of a feeling like you are intruding when you are a nOOb, but thats just IMO.



See you all at PVD!!!

ive met a few of u...u guys were cool..ill say hi when i see u or if i recognize anyone thats the way i am but to join the tota clique thats an impossibility for me...i barely have enuff time for my best friends anymore..i try to make it up by going to the gymn everyday for an hour with them but i miss out on all the nightly events

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Originally posted by richard raiban ... progressive is an intelligent form of electronic music... its complexity...

Complex music does not always make good music - that I am sure you will agree with me on.

And just as you can pull "unintelligent" trance records out of your bag, I could pull "unintelligent" prog, house, breaks out of mine.

Although I "get" what you're trying to say, and agree with it on some levels, the same concepts (as far as complexity, depth and intelligence) should be applied across all genres (because that is what makes good music).

The broad generalizations (re: progressive / trance) you've made aren't very fair/unbiased IMO.

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Originally posted by DancingQueen169 I wouldn't say that.....I am about 2 months into actually posting on TA, and I have already met several TA members.....and I want to meet more of you I think it is more of a feeling like you are intruding when you are a nOOb, but thats just IMO.

Seconded, only its been less than a month for me.

All the TA's I've met have been very welcoming and generally cool people. Without them, clubbing wouldn't be the same.

TA sort of works in cycles. sometimes there's a lot of interesting dialogue sometimes it's all flames, sometimes it's other annoying BS.

right now it pretty much sucks and i hardly post and am reading the board less and less. i've met some incredible ppl from here and i don't consider them "TA friends" just regular friends.

there is a tight-knit group of friends on this board, but i really don't think that means it's cliquey- our crew is made up of all differnt types of ppl and everyone is incredibly welcoming of new ppl if they treat others w/ a relative degree of kindness. there really isn't much of a snarky agresssive mentatlity to new ppl on this board. I don't think there will ever be anything to worry about in regards to making this board feel unapproachable. before i started posting i was admittedly a little nervous (this was back when there were only a few girls that actively posted too).

and yes a lot of us aren't such huge fans of epic trance anymore. tastes often change. I still like a lot of trance that I liked when i began getting into the scene, but there are others types EDM that i like now that i was not capable of understanding in the past (just b/c I wasn't that familar w/ many of teh sounds heard in EDM) my tastes now encompass a lot more. IMO staright up trance is a lot more accessable- the melodies the vocals- it doesn't mean that it's for kids or that only ppl that dig cheesy tunes can appreciate it,in fact there are many ppl on this board who like full on trance who (A) know their shit and (B) who I totally respect- i certainly don't see their musical tastes as not evolved.

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Originally posted by charmscars TA sort of works in cycles. sometimes there's a lot of interesting dialogue sometimes it's all flames, sometimes it's other annoying BS.

Was going to say to the same thing earlier. Definitely has cycles for me.

I will never stop bashing prog,because prog is not music.
I think the world would be a better place WITHOUT that sexy crap soulful shit of a muisc called prog!!!


so ya f*ck prog

what would this thread be without the bashing words of Cyrus.

Here we go. I hate prog becuase it is boring and suimple and monotone and just repetitive. There is nothing to look forward too in the song and it isnt even energetic. Ill admit, i can listen to about 20 minutes maximum of that type of music before the trance headliner... but after that.. there is so much you can do when 18 songs sound the same with t little rift change here and there.

Even before i knew the labels of these types of music when i was 18, I went to a club called IT... and they played progressive like no tommorow. It came to the point where my friend slammed his fists on the table and said "OK... IM NOT GOING TO EVEN PRETEND I LIKE THIS ANYMORE" after bopping his head for 2 hours straight waiting for something that woould add euphoria to the set. NOthing happened... same stupid beat with a bell here,.. a drum there.

At one point, Silence came on.. but it was a BORING prog remix that had a beat and maybe two sentences from the song. It was just boring,, thats the best way i can describe it.

The crowd reaction ive seen when trance is played to the reaction of the crowd when prog is played is so distinguishable that its not even hard to imagine.

Long live trance!!!!!!!

doesn't anyone understand that people have different tastes?! i literally laugh out loud when i see people go on and on about how prog is boring or trance is cheese. i mean, sure it's not your cup of tea. boo hoo. neither is hip-hop (or country) for me, but you don't see me going off on a rant castrating all the "thugs" and "playas" and such

people like different things. big whoop. get over it.

























actually, on second thought, don't: i like seeing people argue over trivial things like "progreZZZZZZZZZZive sux0rz!!!11122" and "omg chester cheetah should spin trance, cuz they're both DANGEROUSLY CHEESY!!11oneeleven"

pak chooie unf.

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Originally posted by samhouse im slow to meet people...theres some cool people on this board who ive met and even more cool people who i havent...but i dont go lookin for people ...if i see ya and recognize ya ..ill say hello Long Live Progressive Trance

I'm much the same way...I've met several cool people...but also more than one who seemed kinda disinterested...maybe I read too much into it at the time...I dunno.

I'd like to think growth is a good thing..."new blood", new perspectives, and all that...but I can understand that people who have been here for a while might not feel that way...

It's not a matter of TA actually being "cliquey" or not...but that it can sometimes feel like it's cliquey (and dare I say elitist) to new people...I emphasize sometimes...and it's usually just a few people. I'm not saying it's intentional or anything like that...but there are groups who have known each other for a long time and that can be almost intimidating...the vast majority of TAs I've come across are quite friendly though.

I definitely agree with 404 Science...while I'm an epic trance fan at heart and have been for several years...thank god for G&D I'll always prefer trance...but diversity is good. Misja Helsloot, Sander K and Adam Freeland are currently are in the rotation for me :P

Well, being someone who just joined recently (as of October 2003) I HAVE noticed the recent lull in the forums. I thought it was just me, though 'cause I have a little less time to read the posts and I've missed a bunch of things that were going on -- but the general feel of things seem bang on with what everyone else is saying.

I haven't witnessed the 'cycles' yet as the one i'm experiencing is currently on it's downswing -- but I hope E2EK1EL is right in saying that it's just the summer and people are just doing their own thing because I would like stuff to get back on track.

And as for people not feeling welcomed... from what I hear, TA is the place to be compared to some other forums. I can see how things can seem 'cliquey' and to many shy people out there, it's really hard to step into the middle of things. -- I know for a fact that I couldn't do it (easily) if it weren't for the fact that I already knew Pixiechick and Charmscars and a few others in 'real life' before I started posting. (yes.. having a welcome thread addressed to you is a nice little icebreaker).

But just because you don't know some of us in real life doesn't mean that the 'crew' doesn't want new people to come and play . I think people just have to recognize that some people (myself included) find that if I meet too many new people at once then I can't remember them easily.. which sucks 'cause I'm a nice guy i think and I want to know everyone. And with the recent surges in new people, I found that I had to limit how many 'new' people i met. But it's all in good time that familiarity is conceived. Anyway i babbled on for too long and I don't really know if this post flows or makes any sense. I'm tired... boh... I'll hopefully see some of you guys soon! (Been a while -- too long! /me is suffering from TOTA-withdrawal )

M

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Originally posted by loconet Prog sucks! ZzZzzZZZzZzZZZZ

sure its ur opinion, but prog DEFINITELY
does not suck....

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Originally posted by charmscars

Probably my favorite post of yours, ever.

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Originally posted by tw1tch

haah you're cracking me up in this thread. For the record, I still have the avatar on my computer (back in Canadia) and will have to dig it up one of these days. You could see a bead necklace with my baby blue kangol hat. hahahah Those were the fucking days.

(I can't believe Margs forgets it, fuck she hasn't changed her creepy avatar since day one)

FUNNY STORY (since we are looking back): I actually remember asking Margs on the phone who she was on Tranceaddict upon finding out we both frequented the board. How long ago was that?

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Originally posted by 404 Science first TA I met was RJ at Timothy Coffee Pub for the pre-meetup

hah I remember that night like it was yesterday. I have a really good group pic from that on my computer somewhere. That was (ironically enough) also the first night I'd met RJ. Remember someone thought I was going to bust into a fist fight with someone because of my apparent prog attitude. haha As if. Tiesto rocked the casbar that night, minus his poor ending. (cj bolland was hot 2 years ago Tijs)

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Originally posted by halo20 hah I remember that night like it was yesterday. I have a really good group pic from that on my computer somewhere. That was (ironically enough) also the first night I'd met RJ. Remember someone thought I was going to bust into a fist fight with someone because of my apparent prog attitude. haha As if. Tiesto rocked the casbar that night, minus his poor ending. (cj bolland was hot 2 years ago Tijs)

Hehe, I remember that evening as well !

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Originally posted by mot10n ... (or country) for me,

You know, lately I've found a lot of closet country lovers ( I won't say names to defend the innocent). I've caught numerous people listening to Garth Brooks, Faith Hill, Tim McGraw , etc and they said they actually liked country and asked me not to tell anyone. I found they even knew the lyrics and usually sing along with the song when they're alone. Anyone else has seen this pattern?

Are you one of them mot10n?

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Originally posted by halo20 (I can't believe Margs forgets it, fuck she hasn't changed her creepy avatar since day one) FUNNY STORY (since we are looking back): I actually remember asking Margs on the phone who she was on Tranceaddict upon finding out we both frequented the board. How long ago was that?

like 2001.

I do remember, that avatar. You posed like that all the time.

"Hey, guys, remember my old TA avatar....?" *pose*

I was just making more fun of you regarding possible bracelets.

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Originally posted by loconet I found they even knew the lyrics and usually sing along with the song when they're alone.

"Whose bed have your boot been under?"

"Man, I feel like a woman...."

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Originally posted by StereoPrincess "Whose bed have your boot been under?" "Man, I feel like a woman...."

Man, I actually know what songs those lines come from!!

Newbie here!!!

I'm new to TA, a friend of mine mentioned it to me, I find it a rather interesting site. The one thing I like about it is that is seems that there are some intelligent debates going on and I haven't found that on any other site. Although I don't know that much about trance/techo or house music, I'm sure I'll learn more. I just like going to clubs and dancing my ass off. No expectations from this site, if I meet cool people I do, and if not, well that is okay too.

TA Newbie

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Originally posted by Jayx1 If i make friends on this board then thats great. But im not going to coddle my words or change my opinions so that i can make friends. If i were concerned about making friends here i wouldnt be so abrupt but since this is a message board which essentially is designed for discussion and debate, i am going to use it as such. I have met a few people already through message boards and they are great people and we have good times. But, that is not the reason i signed up thats all im saying.

It's not about changing who you are, it's accepting others for who they are...dispite the differences

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