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Posted by LiveTheDream on Jun-22-2004 13:34:

The main problem with depression, is you see your self alot warse then everone around you see you. This is down to you thinking you cant do anything which you could if you just throw your self into the sicuwation, Just think you can do it, and you will do better then you think you would, ie going up to girls and chatting to them. Just do it, if you balls it up, just think why you did and dont make the same mistake, and try agein, eventaly you will get it right, and when you do you will get the biggist rush. It works

I myself dont do well with girls and the last month a godess of a woman has being coming into my work (i work in a pub) and i thort ad be the last person she would liked at my work, but she justed phoned me up asking if i whant to watch a movie

GO ME


Posted by DJAntSmith on Jun-22-2004 13:49:

Blow Job!


Posted by Slylee on Jun-22-2004 15:17:

quote:
Originally posted by Spad
You couldn't if you tried

I was actually refering to the fact that anybody who's been here more than 12 months will remember that moaning and bitching about what a bad hand they were dealt was all you actually used to do.

I'm very glad you've found happiness in your life however, I just find it slightly annoying that you seem to think you're something special for doing so.


funny, you remember that and I don�t. what�s with the hard feelings? you seem like you�re annoyed by me...


Posted by Floorfiller on Jun-22-2004 15:27:

i think the whole martial arts thing is a little over rated. i mean its important to know how to fight. i studied different forms while i was younger (until i got into weight lifting and basketball hehehe...and then eventually just weight lifting). i'd go to the competitions...i'd win my trophies, but i knew kids that were at my school (high school, not martial arts school) that competed on national levels and shit, but i garauntee i could beat the shit out of them because they're like 5'6" 120lbs. i'm sorry, but you need a combination of both, and i'm sure anyone serious in martial arts for the long hall is doing just that.

if there is a misconception on the part of weight lifters in thinking they can beat up anyone, then there is also a misconception on the part of martial artists that big guys are just bumbling idiots.


Posted by Turbonium on Jun-22-2004 16:22:

quote:
Originally posted by Slylee
look in the mirror and repeat after me....








"I'm good enough, I'm smart enough...and GOSH DARNIT, people like me!"

Reminds me of Cool Runnings....

"I see pride, I see power, I see a bad ass mother____, who don't take no crap off of nobody!"

lol


Posted by Floorfiller on Jun-22-2004 16:24:

quote:
Originally posted by Turbonium
Reminds me of Cool Runnings....

"I see pride, I see power, I see a bad ass mother____, who don't take no crap off of nobody!"

lol




sanka...ya dead?


Posted by Orbax on Jun-22-2004 16:40:

Sequential response:

Nico: No I dont start fights. Unless a guy is slapping a girl or something I usually just hang out. Although I feel that abusing a woman in public (or private but especially public) is saying "someone kick my ass, PLEASE" Other than that im a pretty mellow dude.

Phalpax: Sparring helps a LOT. My *only* problem with it is like if your sparring against people who are in karate, all youre doing is learning how to fight someone who knows karate.

I think to be a more well-rounded fighter you have to (duh ) take many different styles. My boxing got better after I fenced. Because its such a mental game out there you learn patterns and how to break them SO much faster fencing and it translates rapidly into using your jab as a pattern machine.

Force = Mass X Acceleration. Its simple. Big people who have trained on a speed bag or a body bag for snap specifically are going to kick ass. Thats why heavy weight and super heavy weight (and all divisions) exist. 20lbs will FUCK YOU UP. The division has to be so small because each person is training for snap to the max. So theyll by definition have much more force.

Weight lifters only train for pushing. Rather slow pushing at that. I have boxed and fought multiple football players and heavy weight lifters and won by such ridiculous margins (usually unscathed). My friend took some asshole football player out of a video store cuz the dude was being an ass. 5 of his buddies came out too to watch. What happened next was an asswhooping of biblical proportions. He didnt even get 1 punch in. Admittedly my friend is one of the scariest boxers ive ever known (used to go through bags every couple of weeks, like, he needed new ones, he broke them).

Martial arts provides a weak person with a very unreal perception of power. They put the huge ripped people in the same class with a 110 lb woman. Then every does the technique to eachother and it works! Most of the sparring ive done has been kind of halfassed, and I always got in trouble for actually producing pain.

Its this little club where reality doesnt matter.

Now, given, there are people (sounds like youre one of them) who have the physical constitution and the mental perception to be able to utilize the techniques effectively WHILE producing a lot of force thus pain. My sensei in Nihon Goshin Aiki-Jujitsu (AKA the school of pain!) had been doing it for 30 years, was 5 foot 2 130 lbs and I wouldnt NEVER EVEN THINK OF ATTACKING HIM. He was insane! he had stories where he had beat the shit out of dudes with knives. He was one of like 5 people in the US at his level. He had to get a Sensei from Japan to come over to get his next degree.

I asked him what do you do against boxers like my brother and I. He told us that later on we will learn strikes and kicks and thats all you can do. The wrist bends and stuff wont work and its impossible to "deflect" a hook or an uppercut. It was the fact that we knew, and everyone else knew, that the only people in the room with more fighting experience and meaner skills were the sensei and the assistant teacher.

Problem is it took them THIRTY YEARS to reach that point!!

Most of your fights happen in your early teens through early 30s. thats a 15 year span of which youll be an effective martial artist (against people who know how to fight) for only about 5 years (maybe!). If you do a combination of punching bag and submission wrestling you can be insane in less than a year. Never AS insane as the other dudes, but you top out so fast it seems like it sometimes.

the age old debate of boxer vs martial artist...they did that. the MA jabbed a thumb in the boxers eye and ended the fight. I guess it depends on what kind of fights gonna happen. Be prepared for everything, realize most fights will end up in wrestling in about 5 seconds and you better be able to 1) wrestle and 2) punch from close range. WHerever you learn how to do that, I dont care, but thats fighting. There are very few fight ending punches in fights.

If you dont knock them out adrenaline will get them going and fighting really really fast. They wont feel pain, they wont realize theyre bleeding. Fights are brutal. I dont like it. But I do like being able to end them as quickly and painlessly as possible (for me at least).

Point: Fighting is a combination of acquired skill, actual application, and mental fortitude. Anyone who has been in a fight will see changes in their style. Theyll stop using certain moves or blocking poses because they simply dont work. You will narrow your band of operable moves and techniques to a very effective routine pretty quick. In the end, it pretty much comes down to punching and wrestling, sometimes a few kicks while they are on the ground. Martial arts is fun and stuff, and ive used arm bars and shoulder locks on a few people who rushed me, thus putting their nose in the dirt, and it was good. Easy way to stop a fight. As soon as that doesnt work you gotta know what youre doin.

I think that covers everything


Posted by Floorfiller on Jun-22-2004 16:43:

orbax...you've become one of the best TA posters hehehe...always lots of thought put into responses


Posted by Slylee on Jun-22-2004 16:57:

quote:
Originally posted by PHALPAX
Thats the logic for most people, esspecially guys. A majority of men think all they need to do is lift weights and rely on strength, power and adrenaline to win a fight. I just hope they keep thinking that way, it keeps fights short and sweet


For the average joe, I think that logic is correct. I witnessed a fight in high school between this popular baseball jock, and an introverted grunge kid (little guy). I guess the jock pushed one too many buttons cuz that little kid went ape shit...threw a chair at him and everything. It was pure adrenaline, and you could tell the jock was surprised. It got broken up before any real damage was done, but that kid was ready to fight. Unless you are in some sort of competition or wrestling match, fights really don�t take that long and don�t really require TOO much endurance. I mean you just start swinging and doing whatever it takes to bring the other person down. I�m talking about street fights between every day people.

I, myself have never been in a fight, because my mother always stressed to me that girls do not fight. I�ve gotten into a few verbal altercations, but nothing serious. However, I have a nasty temper when I get to that point (takes a lot), and I�m pretty confident that if I was ever pushed to the point where I had to either defend myself, or put someone in their place, I�d have little trouble doing so. I think mental confidence helps in fighting too.

generally speaking, I am against violence and ignorant fighting, but I do believe in sticking up for yourself or what you believe in...and if that means you have to throw a few punches in the midst of doing just that, then so be it.


Posted by Orbax on Jun-22-2004 17:06:

Sly, I doubt there are many women who could stand up to you. I just hope you realize that a 17 year old boy whos never fought would probably kick your ass. You probably got angry reading that hehe. Point is that men are literally built different. We have different muscle fiber, we have different chemicals. We are totally totally different than women. It isnt so simple as penis vs vagina thats the only real difference.

We grow, change, develop differently. Our chemicals (which are different) get stored in different places. Our bodies place different priorities on growth and development.

I just hope that you and all women realize that when it comes to fighting, dont fuck with guys. Period. You can kick them in the nuts AS HARD AS YOU WANT and they will have about 15 seconds to rip your head off. ANd they will because they know that theyll be helpless shortly. Ive slammed 180 lb mens heads into the ceiling, yes, the ceiling when ive been pissed off. I picked them up by the shirt and slid them up the wall as hard as I could. One dude I even was able to punch in the stomach once.

You will never be able to beat the animal rage of men because of mainly testosterone which is INSANEEEEEEEEEE. You have no idea what it does to you.

I still love you though


Posted by Slylee on Jun-22-2004 17:13:

You are absolutely right..

I am well aware of the fact that men are stronger than women. Trust me, I�m not one of those chicks that would step up to a guy, physically. Maybe verbally...then the rest is up to my man!

And no, i'm not an instigator, but I will certainly call out any asshole who thinks he can be fresh with me or anything like that...and he can take it up with my boyfriend if he choses....would be a stupid choice, but oh well!




*edit* what if I'm taking testosterone supplements? would you fear me then???


Posted by Orbax on Jun-22-2004 17:36:

yes, but for different reasons


Posted by Slylee on Jun-22-2004 17:42:

what's wrong? u scared of a little chest hair on a girl?


jk

I�m not really taking testosterone. But hey, since u are very educated about fitness and working out n stuff, what are your thoughts about injecting a few cycles of pure growth hormone? what are the side effects?


Posted by trancebrat on Jun-22-2004 17:56:

quote:
Originally posted by Floorfiller
orbax...you've become one of the best TA posters hehehe...always lots of thought put into responses




That's because he is one of the most intelligent people on TA. He just hides behind BS posts sometimes. Of course sometimes he does look over things like punctuation. hehe


Posted by BadBadNeil on Jun-22-2004 18:04:

I like when the little guy wins.

I saw this fight couple weeks ago, was kickboxing to be exact and there was this small dude and this guy they called goliath, a 375lb HUGE black dude who was scary lookin as all hell (eg. zeus). Anyways the small guy hacked his legs knocking him to the ground. After the big guy got up he just got pummeled by the small guy and goliath was out for the count in the second round. I knew what was going to happen and all along from the beginning I was thinking that guy should be a wrestler not a kickboxer. He was extremely slow and his weight was not an asset to him but more of a hinderance. He was also not nearly as flexible as the small guy and barely got any kicks in (mostly boxing moves). Even with his boxing moves he was slow and I think this had to be in part to his extreme physique. I bet the small guy knew right from the start how this match would go, I sure as hell did.


Posted by Orbax on Jun-22-2004 20:38:

quote:
Originally posted by trancebrat
That's because he is one of the most intelligent people on TA. He just hides behind BS posts sometimes. Of course sometimes he does look over things like punctuation. hehe


puncuation is teh sux


Posted by {b.s.e.} on Jun-22-2004 20:43:

punkchewwhat?


Posted by PHALPAX on Jun-23-2004 01:16:

quote:
Originally posted by Orbax

Phalpax: Sparring helps a LOT. My *only* problem with it is like if your sparring against people who are in karate, all youre doing is learning how to fight someone who knows karate.



A misconception. If you go to a quality school, they will put you through EVERY possible situation and scenario. I cannot tell you how many times I've gone through the "punch to the face" scenario or knife or club scenarios. Generally, and most karate instructors play to this, is that everyone will lean towards their own physical and mental strengths when they enter a street fight and "create" their own modified version of the style that they are learning. This is an aspect that Bruce Lee created, throwing away useless information and keeping what is useful. It must be recognized that martial arts (pending the style) prepares you to fight the average joe, so the notion that you train and spar just to fight other martial arts is false. As a student you really don't begin how to learn to counter-attack martial art attacks until a few years of your studies. So I'll fight the average joe, boxer, or anyone else any day before a martial artist.


Posted by Orbax on Jun-23-2004 01:21:

quote:
Originally posted by PHALPAX
So I'll fight the average joe, boxer, or anyone else any day before a martial artist.


what about a guy with a shotgun :P


Posted by PHALPAX on Jun-23-2004 02:07:

quote:
Originally posted by Orbax
what about a guy with a shotgun :P



depends on how close I am to the barrel


Posted by Spin Doctor on Jun-23-2004 02:54:

Or psychic powers?


Posted by DJ Rat 187 on Jun-23-2004 07:13:

Re: what are some Confindence Boosters?

quote:
Originally posted by TweeK
Is there any thing you do to pick up more confindence in your self.Or is they any trance song you listen to?


Program yourself to be confident (hypnosis)


Posted by nrjizer on Jun-23-2004 08:04:

quote:
Originally posted by Orbax
Sly, I doubt there are many women who could stand up to you. I just hope you realize that a 17 year old boy whos never fought would probably kick your ass. You probably got angry reading that hehe. Point is that men are literally built different. We have different muscle fiber, we have different chemicals. We are totally totally different than women. It isnt so simple as penis vs vagina thats the only real difference.

We grow, change, develop differently. Our chemicals (which are different) get stored in different places. Our bodies place different priorities on growth and development.

I just hope that you and all women realize that when it comes to fighting, dont fuck with guys. Period. You can kick them in the nuts AS HARD AS YOU WANT and they will have about 15 seconds to rip your head off. ANd they will because they know that theyll be helpless shortly. Ive slammed 180 lb mens heads into the ceiling, yes, the ceiling when ive been pissed off. I picked them up by the shirt and slid them up the wall as hard as I could. One dude I even was able to punch in the stomach once.

You will never be able to beat the animal rage of men because of mainly testosterone which is INSANEEEEEEEEEE. You have no idea what it does to you.

I still love you though


While I tend to agree, I think anyone trained well enough can become deadly, regardless if they're up against manly rage. I blow to the throat can kill with one hit. Or a blow to the epidermis (sp?) will knock the wind out of someone, giving you a chance to either whoop their ass fully, or escape. Or simple weapons, like brass knuckles perhaps, can really give a little guy the edge.

I mean, Bruce Lee was 5'6, 150lbs or so, and he could whoop anyone's ass (though I am aware we are talking about men vs women, but the point stands that size isnt everything when it comes to combat).

Fuck me. When the hell am I going to remember to start taking JkD and BJJ.


Posted by Floorfiller on Jun-24-2004 15:26:

so i was thinking today about confidence and came to the conclusion that having low confidence is really just the hiding of your true personality from people because you're afraid they won't like you for it.

so in order to get more self confidence, you have to learn to step out of that shell you've been living in and be yourself.

try to just do something fun, but which is totally embarrassing like singing in your car (i was singing all the way to work this morning hehehe...). really don't be afraid of being a little dorky its ok. people like people that can make them laugh...so if you have that side of your personality, but keep it hidden...let it out a little more...


Posted by Orbax on Jun-24-2004 16:39:

quote:
Originally posted by nrjizer
While I tend to agree, I think anyone trained well enough can become deadly, regardless if they're up against manly rage. I blow to the throat can kill with one hit. Or a blow to the epidermis (sp?) will knock the wind out of someone, giving you a chance to either whoop their ass fully, or escape. Or simple weapons, like brass knuckles perhaps, can really give a little guy the edge.


Weapons would of course, tip the fight. A chick with a sawed off shotgun would probably kick my ass too.

The odds of her having the requisite speed to get through a 36 inch reach is doubtful no matter how fast she is.

a blow to the throat is hard to accomplish, especially when youre in a fight and the throat is insanely flexed, you gotta be pushing the Adams Apple in. ANywhere else will be well, hard to get at because youre probably somewhere around a foot shorter and have quite the disadvantage in reach again. Plus a blow to the neck is like a blow to the head. Hard for the short person, and against a trained boxer...you would have to BE Bruce Lee to get that one in. Im faster than hell too

Epidermis is skin, so I imagine you are referring to the Solar Plexus, the largest bundle of nerves in your abdomen and pretty much directly connected to the diaphragm. Again, being someone who works out, its sheathed in muscle; and as a boxer my stomach is always tensed in a fight, REALLY tensed when I do anything that would open me up by exhaling sharply as I do the action (same reason Martial Artists say "KEIAYYYY!" tenses you up).

There are things like kicking your knees in etc. but most fighting stances arent conducive to that. Just as a person who has fought many MEN, and well trained men at that, A woman would NEED a weapon. hands down.

I let this one dude punch me in the face as hard as he could. It split my skin a bit, but other than that my eyes widened and I bust out laughing. I laughed so fucking hard he almost cried. He was so red....ah man. I mean there are guys out there who cant even get a good hit in on a freebie. A strong, well trained woman, would kick their asses, admittedly.

There is just a certain level at which you cannot compete with men. Which should be fairly obvious. They train, I train, im better for it in the end. So if your point was that *I* personally should be worried about a woman, I disagree.

If your point was that women should still take self-defense and fighting classes in the offchance they are able to catch a man off guard with their ability, or fight a man who is actually as weak as they are: Totally Agree. I think its something that should be done by everyone.


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