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Posted by Cobalt on Jul-05-2004 23:18:

Oh, and as many others have said already, the dust was awful. I looked like I had gone through the trenches by the time I left. It was bad enough without half the place smoking up a storm, but so it goes. I felt way more tired than I usually do by the end of it, especially with Paul playing hard, and I think the dust was to blame. My chest still hurts a little. It would be nice if 93.1 could find a better venue next year, or maybe put down a tarp over the dance area.

And too bad it didn't rain. That would have helped with the heat in the late afternoon.

Overall, though, the event was great. When it's free, how can it not be? The fireworks at the end were better than I thought they would be, especially those nifty sparkling ones.


Posted by FallingMoon on Jul-05-2004 23:20:

Yeah...who was the guy with the blue/black A State of Trance vinyl??


Posted by Cobalt on Jul-05-2004 23:27:

quote:
Originally posted by arturob
^^ I DIED WHEN I SAW YOU ^^

wtf. that was a huge surprise. reminded me of PVD @ ULTRA !!! HEHEHE


Heheh. Good, so you did remember me.


Posted by arturob on Jul-05-2004 23:32:

quote:
Originally posted by Cobalt
Heheh. Good, so you did remember me.


of courzze! how can i forget hehehehe :P


Posted by Jeskot7 on Jul-05-2004 23:32:

You should have let us known you were coming


Posted by speedracer_mec on Jul-05-2004 23:38:

i was there


i drove from texas


Posted by Cobalt on Jul-05-2004 23:43:

quote:
Originally posted by Jeskot7
You should have let us known you were coming

Alright, I will next time. I'm just shy when I don't really know anyone in the area.

quote:
Originally posted by speedracer_mec
i was there

i drove from texas

Holy sheezy! That's a long way!


Posted by Jeskot7 on Jul-06-2004 00:03:

quote:
Originally posted by Cobalt
Alright, I will next time. I'm just shy when I don't really know anyone in the area.


Holy sheezy! That's a long way!


Your a Sasha Whore correct?


Posted by Cobalt on Jul-06-2004 00:34:

quote:
Originally posted by Jeskot7
Your a Sasha Whore correct?


Depends on the context. Since late 2002, after the progressive boom, I really havn't liked Sasha's livesets that much. I love Airdrawndagger, but as intelligent and textured electronica, not as dance music.

In the late nineties, though, progressive trance just didn't get any better than Sasha. GU 009, GU 013, Xpander EP, Scorchio, and his 1999 livesets are virtually without peer.

Whether that makes me a Sasha whore or not is up to you.


Posted by DarkAngel on Jul-06-2004 02:13:

quote:
Originally posted by Cobalt
Xpander EP


Enough said.


Posted by Mattivi on Jul-06-2004 02:23:

what i'm gathering from this whole event is that pvd set was great, and the peak of the set was TRAFFIC, funny, a song produced by tiesto! eerily familiar to his wmc event where he dropped flight 643, again the peak of his set, and a track by tiesto! do i sense a pattern! anyways....it seems pvd does really well at outdoors events, like ultra. tho his indoor sets leave something to be desired to me, im always just thinking i wish i was listening to tiesto... sorrry pvd whores i had to throw that in!!! glad you guys had a great time besides the whole emphysema you may be delveloping!


Posted by DarkAngel on Jul-06-2004 02:33:

quote:
Originally posted by Mattivi
what i'm gathering from this whole event is that pvd set was great, and the peak of the set was TRAFFIC, funny, a song produced by tiesto! eerily familiar to his wmc event where he dropped flight 643, again the peak of his set, and a track by tiesto! do i sense a pattern! anyways....it seems pvd does really well at outdoors events, like ultra. tho his indoor sets leave something to be desired to me, im always just thinking i wish i was listening to tiesto... sorrry pvd whores i had to throw that in!!! glad you guys had a great time besides the whole emphysema you may be delveloping!


I'm FINALLY up to the part on the video where Paul is spinning.

As Arturo would say,


"OMFG I DIE."

I'm feeling the shivers again!!!! I LOVE PVDDDDD!!!!!


Posted by Beamen on Jul-06-2004 02:57:

DA - how big are these videos once theyre encoded? like a couple hundred megs?


Posted by DarkAngel on Jul-06-2004 03:00:

quote:
Originally posted by Beamen
DA - how big are these videos once theyre encoded? like a couple hundred megs?



Markus' first set is 116MB.
Motorcycle LIVE is 69MB.
and Markus' 2nd set is 92MB.

I'm encoding the 2nd tape now.....PvD is on right now....OMFG I DIE. OH LORD, I HAVE MY #1 FAV. DJ IN THE WORLD ON TAPE.


Posted by Beamen on Jul-06-2004 03:04:

oh thats not too bad at all, i thought they would be bigger. well when u got em all done, if u want ill setup torrent files so we can all be owned by the man


Posted by Mattivi on Jul-06-2004 03:05:

i have to get this off my chest... no offense to you guys who dont like acosta, but why all the hate?! because he's fat? and all this bullshit about him spinning cheese, define CHEESE. the shit 93.1 plays on there rotation is CHEESE. but every dj plays songs that might be classified as cheese not just acosta. and most of you that pass judgement on the poor man have never even been to a liveset of his before this sunday. WHAT the hell is that all about? thats like these harvard professors teaching MBA classes but that have never actually worked for a corporation(wheres the EXPERIENCE, in other words?!) it just seems cool to people nowadays to say "GEORGE IS FAT AND SPINS CHEESE" like all you other annoying assholes who go around parroting chappelles "IM RICK JAMES BITCH", jesus christ, say something original! now im not a huge fan of the man, but ive seen a couple of livesets of his and i tell you what the guy can put on a good set, he may not be a pvd or tiesto, but he knows how to feel a crowd, imho. and back in the late ninties, early millenia, the guy used to spin some of the best hard trance ive ever heard. i think when he changed his style from that thats when he started to slip a bit in my eyes, but thats besides the point. but for real, i love most of you guys in this forum, but sometimes some of the critisisms are totally wanker and brainless, and utterly unstubstantiated. sorry i had to get that off my chest, im not trying to start shit, take it how you like, i just sick of all the acosta bashing, if your so good why arent you up there? you know what i mean.. peace, sorry to get off topic!


Posted by Beamen on Jul-06-2004 03:08:

quote:
and back in the late ninties, early millenia, the guy used to spin some of the best hard trance ive ever heard.



Amen to that. i used to go every saturday with my fake ID in high school to Shadow Lounge. hes a big part of teh reason i got into EDM


Posted by happykandy on Jul-06-2004 03:31:

Dunno

quote:
Originally posted by Beamen
Amen to that. i used to go every saturday with my fake ID in high school to Shadow Lounge. hes a big part of teh reason i got into EDM


Ahhhh Shadow Lounge...that was before my time =( I heard great stories about that place. Wish I could have experienced it....
*cries*


Posted by DarkAngel on Jul-06-2004 03:42:

quote:
Originally posted by happykandy
Ahhhh Shadow Lounge...that was before my time =( I heard great stories about that place. Wish I could have experienced it....
*cries*



Ditto.


Posted by planbrad on Jul-06-2004 03:42:

here are my 2 cents on acosta. i have always liked the shit he spins. jsut not a fan of the guy. ive seen him a bunch and he always seems like he thinks he is gods gift to turntables. always pointing to himself and shit. from the first time i ever saw him, i thought this. it was at ultra 2 or 3. the last one they had on the beach. he was going on the main stage after hybrid and they were doing finished symphony as their closing track. he comes on stage and starts spinning and tries to mesh into their track and they just walk off the stage. i thought that was pretty dick. he is a miami dj who people can see all the time, kicking off one of the best live acts in the world. after this, i saw him in gainesville once and tried to talk to him before he went on for his set. he was just a genuine asshole and blew me and my buddy off. so i understand what you guys are all saying, but as far as i go, ill diss him as a person and hate him, but i think he spins some sick trance or at least used to. i havent seen him in probably 2 years. hope this post made sense and was worht the read.


Posted by Mattivi on Jul-06-2004 03:45:

yeh, im not commenting on him as a person just purely as a dj, after some of the comments ive read in this thread. but your right ive heard he's hard to deal with, thats why he isnt at level or maze anymore, but yeah your right he's not the greatest human being on the planet, but this arguement was aimed at his dj skills and 'cheese' arguement, yada yada.


Posted by Cobalt on Jul-06-2004 04:29:

I have a classic CD mixed by Acosta around 1999 called Members of X. It's all low-profile domestic US artists, but one of the slickest club-trance compilations I own. I'd never heard of Acosta before, and liked his sound:

Members of X
01. George Acosta - Intro
02. T.O.T. - Sweet Angel
03. Plus 3 - Voice
04. George Acosta and Friends - DJ's on X
05. Undertaker - Members of X
06. George Acosta pres. Lara B. - I Wanna Fly
07. Fever Express - Fever '99
08. Newcleus - Jam on It '99
09. George Acosta pres. Lara B. - I Wanna Fly [Remix]
10. Liquid Zone feat. Cee-vox - Reach up High

Naturally, I was interested when I heard he was releasing another compilation in 2000. Unfortunately, Awake was a huge departure from his previous style of American club/trance, opting instead for an aimless blend of tired, old eurotrance cuts:

01 Ayla - Angelfalls (Elemental Force)
02 Stray Dog - Mirror (Signum Mix)
03 DJ Ufuk - R2D2 (DJ Ufuk Remix)
04 Absolom - The Air (Prophecy Mix)
05 Airscape - L'Esperanza (Svenson Goes to the Loveparade Mix)
06 Gouryella - Gouryella
07 Solar Impact - Der Schwarze Monolith
08 Green Court - Follow Me (Cosmic Gate Mix)
09 Fragma - Toca Me (Inpetto Remix)
10 Lange - I Believe (Lange Mix)
11 DJ Taucher - Child of the Universe
12 ATB - Don't Stop
13 Liquid Child - Diving Faces (Club Mix)
14 Nova - Welcome to the Future

Given Members of X, I decided that it must have been a career misstep. After all, it was right around 2000 that all the cheesier elements of the 98-99 trance boom began to filter into America. Perhaps Acosta had simply gotten caught in the momentum of substandard European exports, at a time when even mainstream radio was playing Better Off Alone.

Alas, Acosta did it again with Next Level. And again with Touched. And again with Miami. I finally condeded that the guy must be churning out compilations of no artistic integrity for profit alone.

What I've heard about his personality seems to corroborate this image, chronic rumors of his arrogance and desire for fame. This thread has a good collection of posts. Here are two devastating quotes:
quote:
Originally posted by Redeye
Acosta is total crap. I don't understand what people see in him other than the fact that most of his traclists are 3-4 years old which I wouldn't have a problem with if they were actually good tracks but they are usually shit. His mixng is far from good, in fact I have seen him just trainwreck and cut the bass so no one knows he is wrecking. He is also known as being a complete dickhead and egomaniac. He has been a no-show to several events because his name wasn't big enough or high enough up on the flyer and he always has the club rope him off from the people so that they dont annoy him. He had a bad gig at Glow once so he decided to pour a glass of champagne on the cd decks. The guy is a total classless POS and a horrible dj to match.

quote:
Originally posted by Dj Dizzy
i like his style and cd's, but i dont like the man himself, he's a stuck up piece of shit in my opinion. i dont know him personally but judging from his behavior ducking out at shows when i was in miami for ultra just because he didnt feel like doing the gig. thats some wonderful dedication to his fans, one of my friends is a huge fan of his and went to ultra with him in mind and even went to another venue down there because he was headlining, guess what.. he ducked out on em both.
then i saw him when he came to atlanta and he had an arrogant pissy attitude about him. one of the local trance dj's that opened for him that night said he was stuck up as hell too.

i own one of his cd's but i bought it back before all this happened when i used to like him, now i have no respect for him whatsoever.
so even though i do like his stuff, i voted that i dont like him


Just look at his body language when he DJs. You can tell it's not about the music or the atmosphere for him. Too many god poses for me. I simply can't appreciate someone who doesn't carry integrity in the music he plays and who doesn't seem to put the music first.

The music always comes first. I sort of cringed when people with mics started chanting "Paul van Dyk" at the end of Paul's set. That's just totally against the spirit of this culture. It's about the experience, not the person at the decks. I appreciate Paul van Dyk as a DJ because he mixes beautifully, focuses on his set, and is modest in doing so. Not because I want to blindly worship a media idol. In this context, George Acosta represents what I don't like about the commercialization of DJ culture. Instead of taking the attention with quiet gratitude, he seems to revel in it and grasp for more.


Posted by DarkAngel on Jul-06-2004 04:41:

Thumbs up

quote:
Originally posted by Cobalt

The music always comes first. I sort of cringed when people with mics started chanting "Paul van Dyk" at the end of Paul's set. That's just totally against the spirit of this culture. It's about the experience, not the person at the decks. I appreciate Paul van Dyk as a DJ because he mixes beautifully, focuses on his set, and is modest in doing so. Not because I want to blindly worship a media idol. In this context, George Acosta represents what I don't like about the commercialization of DJ culture. Instead of taking the attention with quiet gratitude, he seems to revel in it and grasp for more.


And THAT, among many other reasons, is why Paul van Dyk is my #1 Favorite DJ in the world. Well said, Cobalt.


Posted by Mattivi on Jul-06-2004 06:26:

quote:
Originally posted by Cobalt
I have a classic CD mixed by Acosta around 1999 called Members of X. It's all low-profile domestic US artists, but one of the slickest club-trance compilations I own. I'd never heard of Acosta before, and liked his sound:

Members of X
01. George Acosta - Intro
02. T.O.T. - Sweet Angel
03. Plus 3 - Voice
04. George Acosta and Friends - DJ's on X
05. Undertaker - Members of X
06. George Acosta pres. Lara B. - I Wanna Fly
07. Fever Express - Fever '99
08. Newcleus - Jam on It '99
09. George Acosta pres. Lara B. - I Wanna Fly [Remix]
10. Liquid Zone feat. Cee-vox - Reach up High

Naturally, I was interested when I heard he was releasing another compilation in 2000. Unfortunately, Awake was a huge departure from his previous style of American club/trance, opting instead for an aimless blend of tired, old eurotrance cuts:

01 Ayla - Angelfalls (Elemental Force)
02 Stray Dog - Mirror (Signum Mix)
03 DJ Ufuk - R2D2 (DJ Ufuk Remix)
04 Absolom - The Air (Prophecy Mix)
05 Airscape - L'Esperanza (Svenson Goes to the Loveparade Mix)
06 Gouryella - Gouryella
07 Solar Impact - Der Schwarze Monolith
08 Green Court - Follow Me (Cosmic Gate Mix)
09 Fragma - Toca Me (Inpetto Remix)
10 Lange - I Believe (Lange Mix)
11 DJ Taucher - Child of the Universe
12 ATB - Don't Stop
13 Liquid Child - Diving Faces (Club Mix)
14 Nova - Welcome to the Future

Given Members of X, I decided that it must have been a career misstep. After all, it was right around 2000 that all the cheesier elements of the 98-99 trance boom began to filter into America. Perhaps Acosta had simply gotten caught in the momentum of substandard European exports, at a time when even mainstream radio was playing Better Off Alone.

Alas, Acosta did it again with Next Level. And again with Touched. And again with Miami. I finally condeded that the guy must be churning out compilations of no artistic integrity for profit alone.

What I've heard about his personality seems to corroborate this image, chronic rumors of his arrogance and desire for fame. This thread has a good collection of posts. Here are two devastating quotes:



Just look at his body language when he DJs. You can tell it's not about the music or the atmosphere for him. Too many god poses for me. I simply can't appreciate someone who doesn't carry integrity in the music he plays and who doesn't seem to put the music first.

The music always comes first. I sort of cringed when people with mics started chanting "Paul van Dyk" at the end of Paul's set. That's just totally against the spirit of this culture. It's about the experience, not the person at the decks. I appreciate Paul van Dyk as a DJ because he mixes beautifully, focuses on his set, and is modest in doing so. Not because I want to blindly worship a media idol. In this context, George Acosta represents what I don't like about the commercialization of DJ culture. Instead of taking the attention with quiet gratitude, he seems to revel in it and grasp for more.

good post at least you back up your arguements with solid points and your own point of view. like i said before, im not argueing that he is piece of shit for a human being and should win the humanitarian of the year award, but i used to like his older dj style, and have seen him a time or two over the past few years and have walked away not impressed but not dissapointed either, he's still better than your regular joe resident . and he does play his fair share of cheese but every dj plays cheese and to brand him like that all the time is simply disingenous.


Posted by RachUCF1001 on Jul-06-2004 06:39:

quote:
Originally posted by Mattivi
i have to get this off my chest... no offense to you guys who dont like acosta, but why all the hate?! because he's fat? and all this bullshit about him spinning cheese, define CHEESE. the shit 93.1 plays on there rotation is CHEESE. but every dj plays songs that might be classified as cheese not just acosta. and most of you that pass judgement on the poor man have never even been to a liveset of his before this sunday. WHAT the hell is that all about? thats like these harvard professors teaching MBA classes but that have never actually worked for a corporation(wheres the EXPERIENCE, in other words?!) it just seems cool to people nowadays to say "GEORGE IS FAT AND SPINS CHEESE" like all you other annoying assholes who go around parroting chappelles "IM RICK JAMES BITCH", jesus christ, say something original! now im not a huge fan of the man, but ive seen a couple of livesets of his and i tell you what the guy can put on a good set, he may not be a pvd or tiesto, but he knows how to feel a crowd, imho. and back in the late ninties, early millenia, the guy used to spin some of the best hard trance ive ever heard. i think when he changed his style from that thats when he started to slip a bit in my eyes, but thats besides the point. but for real, i love most of you guys in this forum, but sometimes some of the critisisms are totally wanker and brainless, and utterly unstubstantiated. sorry i had to get that off my chest, im not trying to start shit, take it how you like, i just sick of all the acosta bashing, if your so good why arent you up there? you know what i mean.. peace, sorry to get off topic!



I f*cking love when you post.





And i Like Acosta and his style


But ON topic, im glad you all had fun for the markus and pvd part of the show, wish i could have made it but i had work. Pvd at Summerstage and Spirit owned my ass though, man. Good stuff.


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