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Posted by jthorn on Jul-27-2004 04:29:

I've got no reason to believe this guy. He told me his "wife" was named "Antonella," and he ripped me off about 2 months ago.

Be careful. Even if it's not the "real" Shehryar Qamar out there scamming people, it's a person who has complete control over his identity and has full access to his accounts at least with paypal, hotmail, and ebay. If he's a victim of identity theft, then that's a bummer for him, but anything appearing to originate from him should be assumed to be a lie until proven otherwise.


Posted by Tegu on Jul-27-2004 04:31:

dude,

read my post in the other fake my ex-wife did it thread. i PMed spective on July 16 the following message:

A&H Xone92 Rotary Mixer

Yo Shehryar Qamar, what's the deal with you and Stacey? Is she shipping out my mixer today or not? D3020 and I are done being patient. Tell us what the deal is or we're going to take action against you, Stacey, and Nick Mariani. And like I said before, that A&H mixer better be exactly as Stacey described in the post "mint condition, used 3 months in a studio only environment" and it must also include everything that originally came with it. Please write back so we can get this sorted out as quickly as possible.

To this I never received a reply, in fact, he intentionally never read the message. STILL BELIEVE HIM? Does the whole I had no idea what was going on until just now excuse still work?

there is only one way to resolve this. give me my money back. until then, its up the law to take care of things.


Posted by Spective on Jul-27-2004 05:08:

quote:
Originally posted by Tegu
Nou you have absolutely no concept of what is going on here. nothing is sorted. lies, lies and more lies...

SPECTIVE

explain to me how this fraud was carried out by your ex "Stacey" but yet the checks that were sent to you had your name on it.

i'm done dealing with you and all your fake aliases (stacey, antonella, nick mariani). and i am tired of the lies and wasting my time responding to them.

Do not pretend to be honest. i am well aware of the powerbook scam you were involved in.

if you want to resolve this, paypal me $891.78 until that happens, it is not resolved. excuses do not cut it in my eyes or that of the law.

and way to include textbooks from the school you go to, UC Davis, you dumb fuck.

you should be hearing from the authorities any day now.

MOD: please ban this ****** unless you enjoy reading his humorous bullshit.



Tegu,
So first of all, checks are easy to cash. Banks do not require ID to DEPOSIT a check. She probably used her old ATM card to make the withdrawals. Now, if she was stupid enough to try cashing the checks, then she would have been asked for ID and all of that.

So as you may have read, (or didnt read) in my other thread, Stacey had everyone but you, mail a money order in MY name, but to HER address. This way she could deposit it, then take out the funds via ATM. You need to realize that I dont use that particular account anymore. I have my own personal account that she has zero access to. So obviously, I wasnt aware of all these transactions until DJThanh called me and notified me about all of this.

As for having the authorities contact me....Tegu, be realistic. I used to be like you, where I thought that as long as I had the information and proof to nail somebody, it would happen. Let me tell you something that happened to me. Last year I was a victim of a hit and run. Even though I had the guys name, address, and license plate #, and the police made a positive ID on him, it has been over a year now, and I have yet to see action taken on it. You need to realize that the justice system in this country favors the benefit of the government, not us as individuals. Thats why they are eager to protect the people via traffic tickets.

Anyways, I know you still dont believe me, so I'll just wait till DJThanh and D3020 confirms receipt.


Posted by Tegu on Jul-27-2004 06:14:

Again Spective, d3020 and DjThanh have nothing to do with myself, or jthorn.


Posted by Shemeck on Jul-27-2004 06:39:

DONT BELIEVE THEM! They are full of ****. Report a fraud as soon as possible, for that kind of money they will have ALOT of trouble, they will remember you for the rest of their lives, because that fraud will go to their records PERMAMENTLY! REPORT IT as soon as possible, dont waste time!
Dont believe all of those advices here that she was smart enough and dont even bother to report it. im telling you go with this to police, if she used her ATM card they have her on camera, or whatever
go and report it
and dont even talk with them unless they will give you your money back its a waste of time

If you can try to reverse transaction on Paypal, I read somewhere that you can do it, but I dont use paypal so i dont know


Posted by Tegu on Jul-27-2004 07:01:

exactly.

d3020 and djthanh, listen to polak and i. i urge you to contact the authorities with the info i sent you by PM. it contains links to the people you need to contact. don't listen to his bullshit. you need to report this now. strength in numbers.


Posted by Spective on Jul-27-2004 08:49:

quote:
Originally posted by Tegu
exactly.

d3020 and djthanh, listen to polak and i. i urge you to contact the authorities with the info i sent you by PM. it contains links to the people you need to contact. don't listen to his bullshit. you need to report this now. strength in numbers.


I dont think there is much strength when they have reimbursement checks in their hand. The police will just laugh at you for reporting a claim that has been financially resolved.

Anyways go for it. More power to you.


Posted by Simcut on Jul-27-2004 09:01:

Thumbs down

What exactly's the problem here? you owe people money, why the delay in sending a refund to them by paypal? you cause more harm than good when you take your time reimbursing these people, which makes them more irate and feel like they are being ripped off.

Dunno what all the fucking waiting is for, JUST REFUND THEM!


Posted by Spective on Jul-27-2004 09:08:

Simmy you have no business in this. Come on, you know me from back in the days of TA radio when you were a host. I am not just some flyby operation.

My story is true. If you actually read my other threaf first and see that refunds are being made, even though I wasnt the one that committed the actual fraud, you'd have the actual facts, rather than jumping on this bandwagon of speculation.


Posted by DJAntSmith on Jul-27-2004 09:21:

Why would you refund if you didn't commit the fraud?


Posted by Simcut on Jul-27-2004 09:21:

Im not jumping on the bandwagon mate, and I am not accusing you of anything, maybe I didnt put it across very well, but the longer you take in refunding the people the more irate they will get, just get them refunded asap.


Posted by Simcut on Jul-27-2004 09:22:

Smile

quote:
Originally posted by DJAntSmith
Why would you refund if you didn't commit the fraud?


read the thread Ant :P


Posted by Spective on Jul-27-2004 09:28:

quote:
Originally posted by DJAntSmith
Why would you refund if you didn't commit the fraud?


Well basically, my ex-fiance Stacey used our old joint bank account to cash checks from these victims, and commit fraud.

Legally, I am obligated to pay them back since my name is on the account. However, I also genuinely feel bad for the victims here, so I am doing this because I dont want them to suffer anymore.

Also, once everyone is paid, they can all testify for me and sign affidavits saying i paid them, so that i can sue the real culprit (my ex fiance) and have evidence for it. This way I dont actually loose the money in the end.


Posted by Spective on Jul-27-2004 09:30:

quote:
Originally posted by Simcut
Im not jumping on the bandwagon mate, and I am not accusing you of anything, maybe I didnt put it across very well, but the longer you take in refunding the people the more irate they will get, just get them refunded asap.


Well mate, I was just notified about this over teh weekend when one of the victims got a hold of my telephone # and rung me up and explained the situation.


I am doing the bset I can given the circumstances. I am trying to be the good guy here....ya know? Anyways, how have you been? Its been a while since I heard your arse spinning records on TA radio lol.


Posted by DJAntSmith on Jul-27-2004 09:32:

quote:
Originally posted by Simcut
read the thread Ant :P


I did, i've been intrigued with it since I seen it last week sometime.

Although Spectives next post just explained my question.

I don't really know what to make of all this now. I just hope everyone gets their money back.

On one side, if the refund comes through ok for everyone, then you'd have to say that Spective is telling the truth and will then get the money back from Stacey. But on the other hand you could say that he's got spooked by all of this and worried that something will happen to him so that's why he's refunding. After all why would you refund something that you didn't get?

I'm not really acusing here, just trying to be impartial.

Let us know what happens.


Posted by Simcut on Jul-27-2004 09:54:

Unhappy

quote:
Originally posted by Spective
Well mate, I was just notified about this over teh weekend when one of the victims got a hold of my telephone # and rung me up and explained the situation.


I am doing the bset I can given the circumstances. I am trying to be the good guy here....ya know? Anyways, how have you been? Its been a while since I heard your arse spinning records on TA radio lol.


didnt realise it was only over the weekend, so forget what I said, you should ensure tho that its a quick process. I dont think you have been fraudulent, seems like your missus has tho, is your name Sheyrar or is it Stacey-L's? wasnt she in Heman?

I've been fine thx man, I left TA for like 2 years after my complete inability to control my temper, I used to act like a twat on here a few years ago (nah u dont say! ) but now I'm back and fine even Wicked Neo forgave me and me and him used to be arch enemies.

Lol, does "TA Radio" still exist, all I can remember from that is me going "THIS IS A FUCKING TUUUUUUUUUUU-UUUUUUUUNE" - I still do that stuff =) haha


Posted by Spective on Jul-27-2004 10:04:

My name is Shehryar. Stacey-Ls is Stacey....geee big surpirse there!

Anyways, I am confident this will get sorted.


Posted by Simcut on Jul-27-2004 10:26:

Talking

oops, sorry for my Sherar from Heman joke then :S


Posted by Tegu on Jul-27-2004 14:22:

quote:
Originally posted by Spective
Well mate, I was just notified about this over teh weekend when one of the victims got a hold of my telephone # and rung me up and explained the situation.


I am doing the bset I can given the circumstances. I am trying to be the good guy here....ya know? Anyways, how have you been? Its been a while since I heard your arse spinning records on TA radio lol.



why would you allow him to speak on the phone with you, but you threaten to hang up or not answer if i offer to speak with you?


Posted by Spective on Jul-27-2004 16:35:

quote:
Originally posted by Tegu
why would you allow him to speak on the phone with you, but you threaten to hang up or not answer if i offer to speak with you?


I didnt "allow" him. He found my phone number some how, and then called me. He was my informant to the entire situation.

He will verify that my tone of voice indicated that I was completely shocked and unaware about the situation.

Also, now that I know that 6 people were victims of fraud, I dont need 6 people calling me at all hours trying to get a hold of me, especially when Im at work.

This way, I can have everything documented for when I sue the real Stacey, and I can give you all my undivided attention.


Posted by Tegu on Jul-27-2004 18:06:

i will be more tha happy to provide you with everything i have once you refund my money. please spective, if you want to get on with your life like we do ours, refund my money, then i can provide you with whatever you need to get your money back from stacey.


Posted by Spective on Jul-27-2004 18:09:

quote:
Originally posted by Tegu
i will be more tha happy to provide you with everything i have once you refund my money. please spective, if you want to get on with your life like we do ours, refund my money, then i can provide you with whatever you need to get your money back from stacey.


Well I find it really encouraging that you now acknolwedge that Stacey and I are two different people.

Believe me, I am working hard to try figuring out a way to get you your money in full. I havent slept yet.


Posted by Tegu on Jul-27-2004 18:21:

I acknowledge nothing. You do not have my trust.

If you would like to regain it you will send me my money back. Then I might believe you and will provide you with absolutely everything i possibly can to correct your unfortunate situation.


Posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY on Jul-27-2004 19:41:

This Spective dude seems awfully calm about all this...Spective, why don't you turn this so called Stacey-L into the authorities?? Wouldn't that make sense? Or post her contact info so we all can have a word with her. You'll probably say you have no idea where she is right? I think your a scammer plain and simple. An honest man would not be so lack as you clearly seem to be here...your stories don't add up dude to all the people you scammed. I think if your so innocent, post your ex-fiance's info so we can verify and clear yourself of this mess. I know if you were almost married to this person, you can find her and turn her in. If you don't, that just proves that there is no Stacey-L and that it was you all along who is trying to scam the fellow TA's and others elsewhere. heres your chance to clear yourself..take it or leave it.


Posted by Spective on Jul-27-2004 19:48:

Whats this "so we can have aa word with her" business. Dont get yourself involved beyond being one of the many spectators eating popcorn while reading this saga. This is between me and the 6 victims of her fraud.

Why dont I turn her into the authorities? Because I know how the justice system works. In order for them to have a warrant to enter her apartment, I have to have evidence. I dont have any until some of the victims receive their reimbursements and can help me out.

Your logic as to why you think I am lying is so ridiculous? Because I am being calm and professional instead of blithering curisng idiot, I am lying?

Maybe if you saw me in person, you'd see how stressed I am right now. The nerve of you to judge my emotions from just text. Emotions are just through body language.

Maybe if you go back and read the posts Ive made, and that others have made about me, including a testimonial from a TA mod himself, you can see the truth. If not, I really dont care. I only care to help the 6 victims.


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