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Posted by Dave Piazza on Aug-06-2004 05:18:

Brief History of Bad Boy Bill.


Bad Boy Bill was one of the most talented house DJ in Chicago in the Mid/Late-80's to Late 90's. He style was not really your boring house music people think of but rather funky party sh!t. He was banging early dance music imo. It was good stuff and appealed to alot of people. HE was famous for his quick cuts and scratching. He mixed on 3 decks and did alot of tricks etc.

He and other Chicago DJ's reached populatarity in the Mid 90's when they would broadcast on Chicago's only Dance Music Radio Station B96 for their daily 9 pm to 5 am mix shows. The Dance Music lineup latter ceased to exist in 2002
(R.I.P). Every Thurs., Fri, Sat. Bad Boy Bill would show Chicago a wicked house mix.

F.Y.I It was during this period in chicago that a European DJ by the name of DJ Markski came to Chicago and introduced the City to "euro-Dance". i.e early euro chees Markski became a very popular DJ in the Mid-90 in Chicago. HE imo was the first DJ in Chicago to introduce European Dance music. Becuase of this popularity and fame Markski recieved through 1998-2002 Bad Boy Bill and many other "house DJ's" in chicago began to spin "euro dance" in order to "keep up" or please the crowds taste for Euro music in the 90's ( bad career move imo). thier radio air time explains thier popularity in chciago since Chicagoans only know of these 4 DJ's from this radio station ( patheic art/culture city shows its face again) EVEN though they suck badly now!

Sadly these DJ's imo never matured with the music and to this day still play cheesy Euro Dance Music. Bad Boy Bill in 2002 than revisited his roots of House music and began banging House again.

The reason Chicago DJ'S , in particuale Bad Boy Bill, are not respected is that they never stayed true to the music or helped their genre develope. They were quick to play cheese or dump their "orginal style". Unlike Sasha, PVD, AVB, Tiesto, Carl Cox, Deep Dish, Marcus, Ferry , Digweed , etc. Bad Boy Bill ( and the other Chicago DJ's never helped create a music scene in Chicago, they never help mature or develope a genre of music like the others, and more importantly never truely showed a level of uniqueness and passion consistently as the others.

Thus Bad Boy Bill, DJ Markski, Booby D, Julian Jumpin Perez, and the others had an opportunity to changed Chicagos musical culture but made it slip through their fingers. They have shown through time that thier musically selction has become poor, their passion has become dim, and their msuical creatively non existant. Other DJ's have come into existance and their fame soon faded. they are memories of DJ's that helped create 1985-1999 Chicago's Musical golden years era of dance music.


Posted by Abhay on Aug-06-2004 06:23:

quote:
Originally posted by davepiazza




The reason Chicago DJ'S , in particuale Bad Boy Bill, are not respected is that they never stayed true to the music or helped their genre develope. They were quick to play cheese or dump their "orginal style". Unlike Sasha, PVD, AVB, Tiesto, Carl Cox, Deep Dish, Marcus, Ferry , Digweed , etc. Bad Boy Bill ( and the other Chicago DJ's never helped create a music scene in Chicago, they never help mature or develope a genre of music like the others, and more importantly never truely showed a level of uniqueness and passion consistently as the others.


Errr... A lot of the artists u mentioned are always changing their styles... especially TIESTO...

He refuses to work with Ferry Corsten for their group GOURYELLA, becuase he says he doesn't do that style any more (******). But he's still a good DJ, but Gouryella has some of the most incredible sounds in trance I've ever heard, with a fresh, Japanese, style.... Ofcourse they stopped producing in like 2000 together. Ligaya- Gouryella, was done entirely by Corsten


Posted by NiteMer on Aug-06-2004 16:01:

quote:
Originally posted by Abhay
Errr... A lot of the artists u mentioned are always changing their styles... especially TIESTO...

He refuses to work with Ferry Corsten for their group GOURYELLA, becuase he says he doesn't do that style any more (******). But he's still a good DJ, but Gouryella has some of the most incredible sounds in trance I've ever heard, with a fresh, Japanese, style.... Ofcourse they stopped producing in like 2000 together. Ligaya- Gouryella, was done entirely by Corsten


He's a good producer. People just think he's a great dj. He is mediocre at best. Listen hard to his mixing on live sets. He is one of the most ubrupt and technically faulty dj's of his calibre that I have ever seen. Ferry and Armin are far better dj's. Tiesto plays great tracks and that is what makes him good, but I have little respect for his mixing.

Bad Boy Bill is definitely technically sound. Beat matches super fast and has good tricks, but I don't care for his music or his supersized ego.


Posted by Abhay on Aug-07-2004 01:20:

quote:
Originally posted by Nite-Mer
He's a good producer. People just think he's a great dj. He is mediocre at best. Listen hard to his mixing on live sets. He is one of the most ubrupt and technically faulty dj's of his calibre that I have ever seen. Ferry and Armin are far better dj's. Tiesto plays great tracks and that is what makes him good, but I have little respect for his mixing.

Bad Boy Bill is definitely technically sound. Beat matches super fast and has good tricks, but I don't care for his music or his supersized ego.


Yeah.... Tiesto trainwrecks like a psycopath.


Posted by dogmatic on Aug-07-2004 12:02:

Sneaker Pimp

Trance is sexy...


Posted by Nsonic on Aug-07-2004 15:03:

quote:
Originally posted by dogmatic
Trance is sexy...


i second that


Posted by DjSimonB on Aug-07-2004 17:52:

I know what it's like with not many people listening to trance. Here everyone calls it 'dance' (like how they use 'techno' in the US) and they think 'trance' is Ultrabeat, DJ Sammy, stuff like that.

The majority of people in my year at school listen to either hiphop/rnb or crappy indie rock stuff (not all indie sucks, but it does mostly...) and both camps see 'dance' as music for neds. For those who don't know, 'neds' are the arseholes who dress in tracksuits and hang around the streets vandalising things and drinking Buckfast or cider or something, and usually listen to happy hardcore and Euro cheese, every non-ned hates them. Generally, they think it's repetitive music for non-intelligent people who do drugs, and they'd rather listen to their 50 Cent and G-Unit, or their Libertines and Razorlight.

People don't often ask me what music I'm into, so I can't really tell you many reactions...


Posted by swisstoni_uk on Aug-07-2004 18:14:

thing is though, is that it will be different for somewhere like Australia or the US, i mean North America is a continent so you can hardly expect everyone in a continent to know about something. The sheer size of the place means that each corner has its own thriving musical genre

Trance has thrived in small countries (Holland and the UK most notably) where it can reach a large audience easily


Posted by Torley Wong on Aug-07-2004 18:36:

Different societies and cultures have different terms. That's fine.

After all, "pizza" in Italy that is closer to the founding food is remarkably different from what's served up in Pizza Huts over here, and Japanese pizza is another strong variation on that theme.

So you've got local flavors. That's why the same word means different things across the globe. And the different words, translated, can mean approximately the same thing.

Some things do spread across America, like Britney Spears. And hip-hop culture comes from all sorts of pockets including Dirty South.

Marketing adds awareness!


Posted by Abhay on Aug-08-2004 01:43:

Idea Mainstream

Actually..


It's quiete interesting to note that a lot of the mainstream music today is actually from underground.... IN particular Hip-Hop....

People who sometimes listen to hip-hop group Wu_Tang (Like me..... when I hadn't heard of Trance), hate mainstream rap, becuase they consider it aldutered....

Perhaps, trance will soon be as big as rap.....


WHich brings me to yet another point I need to make...


We're all aware that Trance is very much underground (well.. most of it)... We're all aware that not everyone has heard of Trance.... Most of us is aware that Trance is the best music out there....

Yet.... Trance remains underground... WHy isn't it being spread... The same way it has in much of Europe. Why isn't being heard by the masses that are asses, and have never heard of Trance... This CAN be done without loosing the feel in trance and having it turn into some of the "Ten Second Trance", that we hear today?????? Were all intentionally stopping it from being heard by the masses... Trance could be spreading 100s of times faster than it is right now...

WHY ISN'T Trance spreading really fast........... Why aren't we seeing some of the incredible music we hear on the Video Music Shows on our telivisions?

Hmmm.... U can expect to see another thread about this.......


Posted by Abhay on Aug-08-2004 01:49:

quote:
Originally posted by DjSimonB
Generally, they think it's repetitive music for non-intelligent people who do drugs, and they'd rather listen to their 50 Cent and G-Unit, or their Libertines and Razorlight.

People don't often ask me what music I'm into, so I can't really tell you many reactions...


HMMmmmm...... U know it's funny.... Most of the places in the world I've been to.... THe "neds" are the people wearing G-Unit, D-12, DADA, and FUBU clothing (IT's soooo funny when u c a white guy wearing FUBU)....

What's more interesting is that the same peopel are usually into hip-hop and RnB... AFter all.... when u listen to the lyrics in RnB and Rap... THe rappers try to make themselves look like Badass "neds", who ar e above the law.

Trance culture to me, is more about getting together and partying... all over the world... embracing differences... AND it's like that for many people.


Posted by Radagast on Aug-08-2004 01:57:

Trance isn't underground. If it were you wouldn't be listening to it.


Posted by J-LoOks on Aug-08-2004 02:05:

quote:
Trance culture to me, is more about getting together and partying... all over the world... embracing differences... AND it's like that for many people.


Now this is gonna be put away and brought out every know and then when we get people posting topics like this


Posted by TweeK on Aug-08-2004 02:58:

quote:
Originally posted by dogmatic
Trance is sexy...




Posted by *InVeRs3* on Aug-08-2004 03:23:

quote:
Originally posted by Radagast
Trance isn't underground. If it were you wouldn't be listening to it.


It isn't listened to by the masses though.

explain.


Posted by FrancoR on Aug-08-2004 06:14:

quote:
a lot of people here seem to only listen to because they want to be cool

Really!

In my city (Rio Gallegos - Argentina) i am the only man aaaaaaathan listen trancea belive me


Posted by beats and beeps on Aug-08-2004 06:22:

From what i hear Australia has a better EDM scene than Canada... so stop complaining, and just be glad you have the opportunity to listen to trance. EDM just isnt music that can be liked by a HUGE amount of people, even alot of the people who do like it stop listening to it once thier finished with the whole clubbing scene. Just accept that you have different tastes in music than the majority of people where you live, theres no need to shove it down thier throats.

Besides you have this place...what the hell else would you ever need?


Posted by Abhay on Aug-08-2004 06:42:

quote:
Originally posted by Radagast
Trance isn't underground. If it were you wouldn't be listening to it.


Guess it depends on ur definition of Underground/Commercial...

Again, I started a post on this a while ago...... kinda inconclusive....


Posted by Abhay on Aug-08-2004 06:46:

quote:
Originally posted by beats and beeps
From what i hear Australia has a better EDM scene than Canada... so stop complaining, and just be glad you have the opportunity to listen to trance. EDM just isnt music that can be liked by a HUGE amount of people, even alot of the people who do like it stop listening to it once thier finished with the whole clubbing scene. Just accept that you have different tastes in music than the majority of people where you live, theres no need to shove it down thier throats.

Besides you have this place...what the hell else would you ever need?



PErsonally, I feel that what we're doing it is far from shoving it down people's throat... We're doing the opposite.. we're kinda hiding it from them..

I've talked to someone I know who runs a internet radio for TRANCE only.... he (and lots of peopel would agree to it) says that he would prefer trance to be kept away from the mainstream and undergrond, because it makes it more special.. and makes it feel more and more like a small community....


I thouht that was really cool... but i dunno... whilst ur keeping it good, beautiful, and small.... ur kinda killing it at the same time... like the miser who sold all his possessions, bought a huge lump of gold, and buried it, and lived like a poor man, until he got old, dug it out... and realised he'd wasted his entire life....


Posted by Abhay on Aug-08-2004 06:49:

quote:
Originally posted by J-LoOks
Now this is gonna be put away and brought out every know and then when we get people posting topics like this


JUst make sure u quote it... and have the "ORIGNALLY POSTED BY" PART...


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