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| Originally posted by Vivid Boy but dont worry we'll leave u bus fare since ur a ta |
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| Originally posted by Vivid Boy hey man it wasnt an easy task becoming ur accomplice...initiation was tough and to post those would be down right cruel |
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| Originally posted by The Highroller You honestly think that if equality in the workplace was a reality, that women would give up on the sweeter parts of the deal? I highly doubt it. In my opinion, something as general as "equality in the workforce" shouldn't be used as an argument here. I would agree with you if it were half a century ago when it would be completely unheard of for a woman to be making more than a man. But now, it is definately possible for a women to be earning more than a man. You just said yourself that the you've made more money than the past few boyfriends you've had. So if this is the case, please tell me why there is always an underlying expectation for the guy to pick up the tab when the bill comes? That's pretty much assuming that the guy makes more money than the girl. |
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| Originally posted by The Highroller You honestly think that if equality in the workplace was a reality, that women would give up on the sweeter parts of the deal? I highly doubt it. |
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| In my opinion, something as general as "equality in the workforce" shouldn't be used as an argument here. |
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| I would agree with you if it were half a century ago when it would be completely unheard of for a woman to be making more than a man. But now, it is definately possible for a women to be earning more than a man. You just said yourself that the you've made more money than the past few boyfriends you've had. So if this is the case, please tell me why there is always an underlying expectation for the guy to pick up the tab when the bill comes? That's pretty much assuming that the guy makes more money than the girl. |
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| Originally posted by Skipper However, study after study show that women working the same job as men, on average, take home about 70% of a man's paycheque. FOR THE SAME WORK. |
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| Originally posted by StereoPrincess That's the way that inequality works. Of course I will get a better job than a lot of men and make more than them (with my education) but men that have the same job as me will make more than me. Fucking blows, I'm just as smart as them, assholes. |
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| Originally posted by Skipper I'm glad you're just as ticked about it as I am. |
I'm hiding before the vinyl starts flying!
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| Originally posted by StereoPrincess That's the way that inequality works. Of course I will get a better job than a lot of men and make more than them (with my education) but men that have the same job as me will make more than me. Fucking blows, I'm just as smart as them, assholes. |
u guys are talking like you're comparing peas to carrots!
the underlying currents are supposed to be reciprocal COURTESY (~ perhaps that's where the word 'courting' is actually derived from?) & RESPECT!
what does $$$$/ level of income have to do with this?!?!?! where is the plain and simple kindness, where nothing is expected and s/he does something nice ~ just because ... ?
i don't expect my X5 BWM (with a red carpet, red bow and rose petals, please!!!
) to be standing outside my door just cos i invited him for dinner!
oh yea ... and B. T. W. and this can & should be applied both ways!
he'll get his lamborgini ......... when i make my 6 figures! 
it's the little things (the thought and gestures) in life that count the most! (hehe) 
Silke, how does the underlying expectation for a man to pay for a women stem from courtesy anymore?
It did stem from courtesy when men understood that women made significantly less than they did, but now, it's just not the case anymore. It's no longer courtesy, but more taking advantage of an age old formality!
(When I say this, I am commenting on the first few dates between strangers. I completely agree with you that paying for someone you love and care for is not only courteous, but also fulfilling.)
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| Originally posted by The Highroller Silke, how does the underlying expectation for a man to pay for a women stem from courtesy anymore? It did stem from courtesy when men understood that women made significantly less than they did, but now, it's just not the case anymore. It's no longer courtesy, but more taking advantage of an age old formality! (When I say this, I am commenting on the first few dates between strangers. I completely agree with you that paying for someone you love and care for is not only courteous, but also fulfilling.) |
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| Originally posted by disko-kandi who are these spoilt brats these days anyways? |
yeeaa *siiiigh* ... ur right, let your brain do the talking from time to time!
it's healthy and will save you loads of $$$!
I don't like to split the bill. I pay sometimes, she pays sometimes, or I pay for lunch, then she pays for coffee or whatever
worrying about money too much (esp spent on people) is not healthy
people don't forget
when two male friends go out or when two female friends go out, its always each man for himself.
why is it like that? coz you see each other as equals. looking at the way society works today men and women are "virtually" considered equal. but alas gender differences still exist.
facts of life:
chicks like to feel special
guys feel obligated to pay for date
i agree with durafei when he says that who ever asks for the date should pay, but 90% of the time its the dude that does the asking so that creates a problem. in that case the lady should at least offer to pay for one of the dates if she finds that she constantly being treated instead of just free loading off the poor dude.
once you are a "couple" then each time you go out each person should pay for themself or take turns in covering the bill.
My boyfriend pays for everything, and I mean everything!! He won't even let me pay for starbucks! Every dinner, movie, everything. I offer to pay, he won't let me at all. To be honest, its turning me into a monster.
To compensate for all the money he spends on me each week I buy him clothes, and things he wouldn't buy himself. I also do errands for him, and I always give him a back rub, like every night, lol. Or during dinner I say I am going to the washroom and really I find our server and pay.
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| Originally posted by PartEgurl My boyfriend pays for everything, and I mean everything!! He won't even let me pay for starbucks! Every dinner, movie, everything. I offer to pay, he won't let me at all. To be honest, its turning me into a monster. To compensate for all the money he spends on me each week I buy him clothes, and things he wouldn't buy himself. I also do errands for him, and I always give him a back rub, like every night, lol. Or during dinner I say I am going to the washroom and really I find our server and pay. |
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| Originally posted by PartEgurl My boyfriend pays for everything, and I mean everything!! He won't even let me pay for starbucks! Every dinner, movie, everything. I offer to pay, he won't let me at all. To be honest, its turning me into a monster. To compensate for all the money he spends on me each week I buy him clothes, and things he wouldn't buy himself. I also do errands for him, and I always give him a back rub, like every night, lol. Or during dinner I say I am going to the washroom and really I find our server and pay. |
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| Originally posted by ShadoWolf I've never heard of a woman sleeping with a guy because he "stuck to his guns" and refused to pay for a date. |
Last girl i went out with. Second date. We're playing pool and i flat-out ask her when she's planning to buy us a round of drinks. She said there was no way in hell she would ever buy a guy a drink. I shrugged and continued playing. Five minutes later, she said fine and bought us a round of Bavaria. Two hours later, we were at my place.| quote: |
| Originally posted by Vivid Boy but dont worry we'll leave u bus fare since ur a ta |
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| Originally posted by d!abolic Well now you have Last girl i went out with. Second date. We're playing pool and i flat-out ask her when she's planning to buy us a round of drinks. She said there was no way in hell she would ever buy a guy a drink. I shrugged and continued playing. Five minutes later, she said fine and bought us a round of Bavaria. Two hours later, we were at my place. |
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| Originally posted by Kytracid Did she scrub the floors, do your laundry, press your shirts, and cook breakfast in the morning as well ? |
Chances are she would have went home with you even if you had have kept buying her beer. She didn't go home with you because you asked her to buy a round, I am 99% sure it was for another reason.
So basically guys, don't listen to this advice. And girls, buy boys drinks !!
I have just realized what I missed out on this interesting thread
yeah I would offer to pay all the time not expecting her to pay it next time. it would be more meaningful if she came over and offered to cook me dinner. like come on not everything is about money. we create the sterotyping we put ourselves in situaitons like that. it's each of their own in their relationship and their own value
personally expensive gifts or watever comes along doesn't equal to someone special going out of their way to make sumthing just for me instead of going to grab sumthing super expensive in a store that I will never use
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| Originally posted by sky-evo I have just realized what I missed out on this interesting thread yeah I would offer to pay all the time not expecting her to pay it next time. it would be more meaningful if she came over and offered to cook me dinner. like come on not everything is about money. we create the sterotyping we put ourselves in situaitons like that. it's each of their own in their relationship and their own value personally expensive gifts or watever comes along doesn't equal to someone special going out of their way to make sumthing just for me instead of going to grab sumthing super expensive in a store that I will never use |
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