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Posted by EarnYourKeep on Oct-13-2004 03:42:

what a game for the first of seven in the ALCS...tomorrow pedro vs lieber and also playing the cards and stros...i can sleep now i can sleep! this thread should make it through the whole ALCS!


Posted by RichieRich on Oct-13-2004 03:46:

quote:
Originally posted by Shamez214
Yankee fans are so ridiculous. Fox is so PRO Yankee that it's unbelieveable. Especially McCarver. I hate when I hear Yankee fans say that...


do you even listen to their commentary? get a clue. i love when anti yankee fans talk out their ass.


Posted by sandstorm03 on Oct-13-2004 03:49:

quote:
Originally posted by X RichieRich X
do you even listen to their commentary? get a clue. i love when anti yankee fans talk out their ass.


do they ever talk out of their mouth?


Posted by pvd420 on Oct-13-2004 03:56:

quote:
Originally posted by sandstorm03
do they ever talk out of their mouth?


just as much as you guys do. what it all comes down to is you guys see things one way, we see them another. end of story. dont think this is ever going to change. it's a very tired argument as well.

this was a great game. tomorrow's should be even better....


Posted by sandstorm03 on Oct-13-2004 03:58:

quote:
Originally posted by pvd420
just as much as you guys do. what it all comes down to is you guys see things one way, we see them another. end of story. dont think this is ever going to change. it's a very tired argument as well.

this was a great game. tomorrow's should be even better....


pedro is gonna get rocked


Posted by Shamez214 on Oct-13-2004 04:01:

Oh well, what're you gonna do? And trust me, if you talk to me in person or one on one, I am very open and will always give Yankees their props if they deserve it. But since on here, NO ONE gives the other team props for anything, I'll just stay in anti-Yankee mode. My favorite pitcher is even on the Yankees.


Posted by DiMethGuy on Oct-13-2004 04:49:

being the boston fan i am obviously...just like to congratulate you nyta fans on a great game...see you against pedro tomorrow...i wanna hate u all but u love trance like me so it's all good...till the filpside


Posted by Shamez214 on Oct-13-2004 04:57:

There was a poll on ESPN the other day. I'm curious to see what is everyone's take on it.

1) Who has the edge at first base?

Boston: Kevin Millar
New York: John Olerud

2) Who has the edge at second base?

Boston: Mark Bellhorn
New York: Miguel Cairo

3) Who has the edge at shortstop?

Boston: Orlando Cabrera
New York: Derek Jeter

4) Who has the edge at third base?

Boston: Bill Mueller
New York: Alex Rodriguez

5) Who has the edge at catcher?

Boston: Jason Varitek
New York: Jorge Posada

6) Who has the edge in left field?

Boston: Manny Ramirez
New York: Hideki Matsui

7) Who has the edge in center field?

Boston: Johnny Damon
New York: Bernie Williams

8) Who has the edge in right field?

Boston: Trot Nixon
New York: Gary Sheffield

9) Who has the edge at designated hitter?

Boston: David Ortiz
New York: Ruben Sierra

10) Who has the edge in the rotation?

Boston: Schilling, Martinez, Arroyo
New York: Mussina, Lieber, Brown

11) Who has the edge in set-up relievers?

Boston: Timlin, Embree, Myers
New York: Gordon, Quantrill, Sturtze

12) Who has the edge at closer?

Boston: Keith Foulke
New York: Mariano Rivera

13) Who has the edge on the bench?

Boston: Mientkiewicz, Reese, Kapler, Roberts
New York: Wilson, Clark, Lofton, Flaherty

14) Who has the edge at manager?

Boston: Terry Francona
New York: Joe Torre

I was debating on whether or not I should leave the stats out, so I just left them out. I think the stats tend to skewer the results. My answers are in bold. If you have time, I'm just curious to see where everyone stands.


Posted by DiMethGuy on Oct-13-2004 05:01:

quote:
Originally posted by Shamez214
There was a poll on ESPN the other day. I'm curious to see what is everyone's take on it.

1) Who has the edge at first base?

Boston: Kevin Millar
New York: John Olerud

2) Who has the edge at second base?

Boston: Mark Bellhorn
New York: Miguel Cairo

3) Who has the edge at shortstop?

Boston: Orlando Cabrera
New York: Derek Jeter

4) Who has the edge at third base?

Boston: Bill Mueller
New York: Alex Rodriguez

5) Who has the edge at catcher?

Boston: Jason Varitek
New York: Jorge Posada

6) Who has the edge in left field?

Boston: Manny Ramirez
New York: Hideki Matsui

7) Who has the edge in center field?

Boston: Johnny Damon
New York: Bernie Williams

8) Who has the edge in right field?

Boston: Trot Nixon
New York: Gary Sheffield

9) Who has the edge at designated hitter?

Boston: David Ortiz
New York: Ruben Sierra

10) Who has the edge in the rotation?

Boston: Schilling, Martinez, Arroyo
New York: Mussina, Lieber, Brown

11) Who has the edge in set-up relievers?

Boston: Timlin, Embree, Myers
New York: Gordon, Quantrill, Sturtze

12) Who has the edge at closer?

Boston: Keith Foulke
New York: Mariano Rivera

13) Who has the edge on the bench?

Boston: Mientkiewicz, Reese, Kapler, Roberts
New York: Wilson, Clark, Lofton, Flaherty

14) Who has the edge at manager?

Boston: Terry Francona
New York: Joe Torre

I was debating on whether or not I should leave the stats out, so I just left them out. I think the stats tend to skewer the results. My answers are in bold. If you have time, I'm just curious to see where everyone stands.


damn dude i agree with u 100%

GO PEDRO tomorrow!


Posted by Vlad on Oct-13-2004 05:08:

When it comes to the playoffs, Bernie has a monster edge on Damon - I believe Bernie leads ML history with RBI's in the playoffs.


Posted by verndogs on Oct-13-2004 05:09:

hey

I just came back from the game


going to post pics that I took with my cell in a few minutes


Posted by AY STAR on Oct-13-2004 05:18:

wow what a game
i thought schilling was gonna dominate today after all the trash he was talking today
yanks destroyed him
mooooose was on fire one of his best games
but the sox came back hard i give them that
but it was not enuff
and 2marrow the yanks will show pedro who is daddy is
lets go yankees !!!!!!


Posted by verndogs on Oct-13-2004 05:26:

quote:
Originally posted by verndogs
hey

I just came back from the game


going to post pics that I took with my cell in a few minutes


pics from my lg vx6000


the view from my seats - tier 20 row B


I'm on the bottom right, and my friend from Indianapolis (yes, red sox nation is huge) is sitting to my left


Posted by Vlad on Oct-13-2004 05:28:

Your not a true Yankees fan til you have sat in the bleachers with the bleacher creatures.


Posted by verndogs on Oct-13-2004 05:34:

quote:
Originally posted by Vlad
Your not a true Yankees fan til you have sat in the bleachers with the bleacher creatures.


Yeah, but I got the tix 4 hours before the game...so I took whatever they offered me.

I have sat in the RF bleachers before:
* The game when Piazza crushed a grand slam of Clemens in 2000 - saw a fight and heard really interesting chants

* The game in 2001 where Leiter and Mussina had a pitching duel until Piazza scored the game's only run off Mariano

* This year against the Red Sox when the ball went through Ortiz's leg. That was fun :-) 'Billy Buckner!' /clap /clap, /clap /clap /clap


Posted by EarnYourKeep on Oct-13-2004 10:13:

GODZILLA and BERNIE CRUSHED BOSTON LAST NIGHT!!

GODZILLLLLLLLLLLLLLLA!!!!!!
quote:
Originally posted by Shamez214
There was a poll on ESPN the other day. I'm curious to see what is everyone's take on it.



6) Who has the edge in left field?

Boston: Manny Ramirez
New York: Hideki Matsui

7) Who has the edge in center field?

Boston: Johnny Damon
New York: Bernie Williams


Posted by Shamez214 on Oct-13-2004 10:59:

quote:
Originally posted by kid nyce
GODZILLA and BERNIE CRUSHED BOSTON LAST NIGHT!!

GODZILLLLLLLLLLLLLLLA!!!!!!


The question was "Who would you rather have in CF or LF?"


Posted by Shamez214 on Oct-13-2004 11:00:

quote:
Originally posted by Vlad
When it comes to the playoffs, Bernie has a monster edge on Damon - I believe Bernie leads ML history with RBI's in the playoffs.


Well, if I were in a billion playoff games, I'd lead in RBI's too. That's not the point.


Posted by EarnYourKeep on Oct-13-2004 12:15:

quote:
Originally posted by Shamez214
The question was "Who would you rather have in CF or LF?"


cmon you seriously looking at Godzilla getting the axe? I think Bernie knows CF like the back of his hand...I'm almost positive Beltran would have to produce and fit right at home inorder to take out Sheff or Godzilla. Although I'd love my outfield to consist of Zilla, Sheff, Bernie, and Beltran. Now what a rotation would that be for sheff, zilla, bernie, beltran, and sierra to be "eligible" to swing from DH. And at the same rate have 4 solid field players to rotate between 3 outfield positions. Giambi comes back and rotates with Olly at donny's corner. the only hole will be cairo, but like any average player playing for the pinstripes, their game will naturally rise with the talent that he is around. I still love Jorge behind the plate and the pitching staff needs 1-2 15game winning starters....muhaha the evil empire...

Look at the nucleus the pinstripes are reknown for...
Jeter, A-Rod, Bernie, Jorge, Sheff, and Zilla.
Solid bats if you ask me and decent gloves. You bring Giambi back and acquire Beltran plus 1-2starters and they are sitting really strong.

I like Lieber, Moose, and the dukey hurling. Maybe 1 more starter and a solid middle relief pitcher. Tanyon Gordon and a dominant 4inning middle reliever would solidify the yankee rotation and bullpen.


Posted by Member of X on Oct-13-2004 14:08:

Things always work out better on paper but usually what happens is that some punches a wall, Giambi does steroids and gets a benign tumor, some guy underperforms, etc.

Bernie has a huge hit last night so I really shouldn't talk, but I do think he's nearing the end and if it came down to him versus Carlos Beltran, I have to go with Carlos. He's absolutely tore up Atlanta.

We all know the Yanks need to get more starting pitchers!! Carl Pavano is the big name but I read that he's not looking to go to New York. I'll pass on Pedro.

Mostly, they need to build that farm system up. I would take Randy Johnson though but I don't see that happening since they have nobody to trade.


Posted by Member of X on Oct-13-2004 14:11:

quote:
Originally posted by Shamez214
Well, if I were in a billion playoff games, I'd lead in RBI's too. That's not the point.


We finally agree on something, WOW! Bernie actually has the most homers and RBI's in post season history and Jeter has the most hits. But they play an extra round nowadays compared to Mantle, Mays, etc. They play way more games so it's not a fair comparison. At least that shows they are always on winning teams though.


Posted by Member of X on Oct-13-2004 14:26:

Plain and simple, Hideki Matsui is MONEY!!!!! He is my favorite player.... just so clutch. He's not going anywhere.

Pedro is gonna lose again tonight, I just feel confident about that. It'll be close again and something weird will happen but Yanks will take it.

If El Duque can pitch healthy in game 4 and Kevin Brown is loose for game 3, I don't know...I like their chances against Arroyo and Wakefield. Last night shows that I think Wakefield isn't scary anymore.

Schilling being injured and throwing a weak 89-90 mph is huge. Foulke? Against Rivera? C'mon...

What scares me is that Yankees middle relief. Tanyon Sturtze... I am still not a fan, sorry. An ERA of 5.50 doesn't inspire me, neither does that meatball to Varitek. He's hit or miss and that scares me. Paul Quantrill has been miserable lately too.


Posted by EarnYourKeep on Oct-13-2004 15:02:

its obvious that we all agree yankee pitching isn't up to par. in the past we had rocket, moose, duque, and wells. nice rotation just not enough run support. This year with the acquistion of A-Rod and Sheffield swinging a whiffle bat makes up for the lost big lefty from the otherside of the plate. If I remember correctly, during the o'neil era, the yankee's lineup proved its diversity from BOTH sides of the plate. Yankees mainly going left right left right..etc.

If I'd had to make acquistions to MY dream yankee team as it would stand right now. I'd get rid of Leiber, Sturtze, and Quantrill for a starter and 2 triple A hurling prospects (mid-relievers) Work gordon into becoming a hard throwing middle reliever and lay my lifeline on Rivera. I'd get rid of cairo and bring back Soriano. And have beltran, sheff, godzilla, and bernie holding down my outfield.

Sierra and Giambi switching at DH
Giambi and Olly switching at the corner

lineup:
jeter, a-rod, sheff, godzilla, giambi, bernie, jorge, olly, and soriano. (giambi at DH, olly at first switch them) or dump Beltran in Giambi's spot, DH Giambi and sit bernie. Giambi moving to Bernie's spot and moving Beltran up to 5th. Honestly I like Giambi hitting 3rd, sheff in 4th, and godzilla in 5th or sheff in 3rd, zilla in 4th, and beltran in 5th.

if we can only dream....you know I am


Posted by RichieRich on Oct-13-2004 18:35:

quote:
Originally posted by Vlad
Your not a true Yankees fan til you have sat in the bleachers with the bleacher creatures.



i have 2 bleacher seats for game 2 of the world series...any bidders?

hehehe


Posted by Shamez214 on Oct-13-2004 19:13:

My question was who has the advantage at LF and CF. I can't believe you guys can't just say "Manny and Damon." Ridiculous.


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