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Originally posted by Vivid Boy sorry jayx1 ur wrong on this one. she was just sayiong that diabolic is a loser and i stand behind her on this one

I agree.

"gold-digging ass", Jayx1? Equality? whoa, dude, settle down. I think you're projecting a bit here, lol. Nowhere does she at all mention, or even imply, anything about money.

Why I took from her post is that "it's the thought that counts" is a crock of shit...and I fully agree in this case. That works for not-so-close friends, where an e-card might be a pleasant (or not) surprise...but if he's dating this girl, or trying to, I suspect she wants to see some EFFORT.

Instead of a few clicks of the mouse...why not put some time and thought into something. With friends for whom I wouldn't necessarily buy a gift, I do something cheesy...but instead of a simple e-card, I'd do something that will make them laugh...like photoshop a pic or something and really personalize it.

I'd post one I sent recently to a friend on his b-day, but it's not quite appropriate for public consumption, lol

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Originally posted by Nemireck Indeed, mail-order brides from countries where women still respect men too.

Yup respect is a two way street. I have no need for machismo but i have no need for feminism either.

Respect me and i will respect you. The End.

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Originally posted by MarkT I agree. "gold-digging ass", Jayx1? Equality? whoa, dude, settle down. I think you're projecting a bit here, lol. Nowhere does she at all mention, or even imply, anything about money. Why I took from her post is that "it's the thought that counts" is a crock of shit...and I fully agree in this case. That works for not-so-close friends, where an e-card might be a pleasant (or not) surprise...but if he's dating this girl, or trying to, I suspect she wants to see some EFFORT. Instead of a few clicks of the mouse...why not put some time and thought into something. With friends for whom I wouldn't necessarily buy a gift, I do something cheesy...but instead of a simple e-card, I'd do something that will make them laugh...like photoshop a pic or something and really personalize it. I'd post one I sent recently to a friend on his b-day, but it's not quite appropriate for public consumption, lol

A random E-Card is a nice gesture. A poem is a nice gesture. A cup of home made soup is a nice gesture.

If the ecard had a nice message in it written by him then it should be considered a sweet gesture. Hey, technology has enabled us to do this but it still doesnt give us the thought to use it. That thought has to come from within. And it's that thought that should count. It's almost as good as a phone call to see if she is ok.

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Originally posted by Jayx1 A random E-Card is a nice gesture. A poem is a nice gesture. A cup of home made soup is a nice gesture. If the ecard had a nice message in it written by him then it should be considered a sweet gesture. Hey, technology has enabled us to do this but it still doesnt give us the thought to use it. That thought has to come from within. And it's that thought that should count. It's almost as good as a phone call to see if she is ok.

no but jayx1 diabolical was only doing it to prove us wrong. there wa sno thought in it. its actually pretty sad and loserish. and therefore he shall be brand as a loser for the rest of his time on ta (till i drive him to suicide).

Difference is that the girl he sent it to doesn't know he's just trying to prove a point... We know it, she doesn't.

From her perspective, d!abolic has sent her a neat little e-card that he found and decided to send her way to help cheer her up. That, or she thinks "Damn, he uses e-cards? What a n3rd, DUMPED!", but that's not too likely... more likely she thinks he's up to something, since d!abolic is an ass and obviously wouldn't send an e-card of his own free will.

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Originally posted by Jayx1 personal ATM man slaves.

Can you be my personal ATM man slave. Always wanted one, and you probably have access to an ATM machine......

ahahahahhahaha

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Originally posted by MarkT I agree. "gold-digging ass", Jayx1? Equality? whoa, dude, settle down. I think you're projecting a bit here, lol. Nowhere does she at all mention, or even imply, anything about money. Why I took from her post is that "it's the thought that counts" is a crock of shit...and I fully agree in this case. That works for not-so-close friends, where an e-card might be a pleasant (or not) surprise...but if he's dating this girl, or trying to, I suspect she wants to see some EFFORT. Instead of a few clicks of the mouse...why not put some time and thought into something. With friends for whom I wouldn't necessarily buy a gift, I do something cheesy...but instead of a simple e-card, I'd do something that will make them laugh...like photoshop a pic or something and really personalize it. I'd post one I sent recently to a friend on his b-day, but it's not quite appropriate for public consumption, lol

Thank you

I can gaurantee all of you boys that I am indeed NOT a gold-digger. I have dated guys who scrape by each month with their last penny, and I have dated guys who can throw cash around no problem. To me, it doesn't matter, so long as the guy treats me right by being kind and thoughtful. If he respects me as much as I respect him, we will get along, and vice versa.

My ex had twice as much money as I had, but I still insisted that I payed for things, like dinner or the movies. Of course he would share the responsibility and pay for certain things too.

The whole E-Card thing is just very impresonal, and not very thoughtful. If he were really caring and concerned, he would have at LEAST wrote a quick e-mail telling her that he was worried about her and whatever. If you guys honestly think that an E-Card is an exceptionally nice gesture, you will have trouble keeping a girlfriend. And it isn't necessarily because they want you to be their ATM man slave.

It's because they will begin to feel that they are not important enough for you to even bother making an effort for them. Girls do things for guys that a lot of guys take advantage of. We try and be sensitive to you, and for me at least, I try to be very caring. If a guy I am seeing is sick, I will bring him soup. If he is tired, I will rub his back.

I have a lot more to say on this, but I need to go to work, so take care! Thank you to those who interpreted my post the way it was meant, and those of you who didn't quite get it, try losing your biased opinion of women, and THEN read my post. You might get it.

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Originally posted by Jayx1 And if you were my girlfriend id kick your gold digging ass to the curb. WHat do you want? An expensive present? Are you the kind of girl that will think less of flowers picked from a garden than picked from a florist? I think you are. Men don't owe women like you ANYTHING. If you can't appreciate a simple act of kindness then you don't deserve ANY kindness including the nice dinners and fancy presents (which by the way should be returned as nice gestures are a two way street)

Dude you got some serious issues huh ? Either that, or you just don't understand women - which explains your low opinion of them. All the girl said was that an E card was impersonal. While i don't agree with her on that, it hardly makes her worthy of the gold digger comment.

I agree, lots of women expect material things, and won't go out with a brotha holding a bus pass. I have nothing but contempt for those bitches, but lets not generalize and say ALL north American women are like that. When i read some of your posts i think, either this brother just hates women, or he's had some incredibly bad luck with women...i dunno man, but it makes me sad. (and that's saying a lot, cause i usually don't feel pity for others)

To cheer you up though, i will say this. I agree, Men nowadays shouldn't feel like they owe women material things to get their attention. I'm shocked to see some of my friends who are whipped, cooking dinner all the time for their girls, doing the heavy lifting, and then telling me that they get sex in return so it more then makes up for it...yea, way to take off your pants and become a bitch fella's.

I do agree it's time men took it upon themselves to restore some masculine pride, but that doesn't have to come at the expense of putting a woman down.


PS. If my girl punched me in the nose, and broke my nose...you betta believe that there's gonna be two people going to the hospital...fuck that !

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Originally posted by Kytracid and won't go out with a brotha holding a bus pass.

Shit... so thats why I haven't been laid in 10 years.

-Your Mother

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Originally posted by Your Mother Shit... so thats why I haven't been laid in 10 years. -Your Mother

I feel ya bro, that's why i only date women who i meet on the bus...

the last one was a knockout...

now if only i can get her to stop doing that damn crack...

Re: I doubt anyone else will see the humour in this...

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Originally posted by d!abolic ... but here goes anyway. From an email: "I forgot you're usually an asshole. If I keep taking that damn morning-after pill I will eventually become immune to it and BAAM I'm going to get pregnant. If I recall your last words on this subject; "If you get pregnant, I'm out of the country." How COMFORTING. Wow you really frustrate me sometimes. P.S. If whatever this is doesn't work out, will you still be my prom date?" God, i was laughing my ass off. You gotta love a girl who can make you wonder if she hates you or wants to make you laugh

You must run this site.

"I pick up hot Thai whores off the streets of Thailand. In clubs, supermarkets, the beach and off the streets, I wreck their young slick pussies and fill them full of my spunk. After I have these whores suck my cock and dump my sperm into their receptive ****s, I throw them back to the world to fend for themselves.These girls are willing to do anything to receive my spunk inside their hot tight asian twats. Maybe they think it's a ticket to the promise land, or maybe they just want to breed. Are they on the pill? Who gives a fuck. Protection. Fuck no. Do I have illegitimate childern in Thailand? Probably. This is the REAL FUCKIN' DEAL."

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Originally posted by Kytracid Dude you got some serious issues huh ? Either that, or you just don't understand women - which explains your low opinion of them. All the girl said was that an E card was impersonal. While i don't agree with her on that, it hardly makes her worthy of the gold digger comment. I agree, lots of women expect material things, and won't go out with a brotha holding a bus pass. I have nothing but contempt for those bitches, but lets not generalize and say ALL north American women are like that. When i read some of your posts i think, either this brother just hates women, or he's had some incredibly bad luck with women...i dunno man, but it makes me sad. (and that's saying a lot, cause i usually don't feel pity for others)

WERD

Kytracid: actually neither are true. Ive had my ups and downs as anyone has but travelling around the world made me realize how fcuked our society (and more specifically our city) is when it comes to the mentality of the sexes.

You see, I used to play the game until i realized what the game was all about. I was always playing the part of the indifferent prick and it worked. It's not as if i got screwed over one day and then said "thats it no more". I came to realize that there shouldnt be a game in the first place. I also realized that the game doesn't have to be normal as it isnt in other societies. The game wasnt me or who i was and i accepted it.

I guess i am just intolerant now to a lot of what i see as BS. Ive experienced what it is like to have a society where mutual respect is given and being nice to someone isnt considered a weakness. It took about 2 weeks for my shell to thaw in south america before i was able to reciprocate the kindness given to me there and accept it as genuine kindness and not the type where something is expected in return. And that was coming from someone who isnt as hardened as I feel most people are here.

I think the other thread about Toronto failing the kindness test can be extended to this as well. If society is cold hearted on the surface how can it not extend to personal relationships?

If i seem to have a low opinion of something it's how both men and women act. Women for how they manipulate and men for accepting the BS. If guys were themselves ie) nice and thoightful yet didnt put up with BS then you think women would be playing them like violins? If it wasnt for feminism im sure the roles would be reversed which isnt fair either. But right now it is the way it is.

Mutual respect is what is needed today.

Does anybody think that perhaps he does these posts and says all this stuff PURELY for effect? Just to get a rise out of everybody? Just as many people do on this forum? Maybe you can answer that d!abolic...Just a hunch. Perhaps we are all just feeding to this and encouraging this behaviour.

no i think diabolic truely beleives that hes some sort of pimpdaddy...

LOL

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Originally posted by Jayx1 Kytracid: actually neither are true. Ive had my ups and downs as anyone has but travelling around the world made me realize how fcuked our society (and more specifically our city) is when it comes to the mentality of the sexes. You see, I used to play the game until i realized what the game was all about. I was always playing the part of the indifferent prick and it worked. It's not as if i got screwed over one day and then said "thats it no more". I came to realize that there shouldnt be a game in the first place. I also realized that the game doesn't have to be normal as it isnt in other societies. The game wasnt me or who i was and i accepted it. I guess i am just intolerant now to a lot of what i see as BS. Ive experienced what it is like to have a society where mutual respect is given and being nice to someone isnt considered a weakness. It took about 2 weeks for my shell to thaw in south america before i was able to reciprocate the kindness given to me there and accept it as genuine kindness and not the type where something is expected in return. And that was coming from someone who isnt as hardened as I feel most people are here. I think the other thread about Toronto failing the kindness test can be extended to this as well. If society is cold hearted on the surface how can it not extend to personal relationships? If i seem to have a low opinion of something it's how both men and women act. Women for how they manipulate and men for accepting the BS. If guys were themselves ie) nice and thoightful yet didnt put up with BS then you think women would be playing them like violins? If it wasnt for feminism im sure the roles would be reversed which isnt fair either. But right now it is the way it is. Mutual respect is what is needed today.

I agree, with the last bit. Mutual respect is needed, and i can see why you are jaded towards some of the things that women get away with these days. The balance of power in the west is definately leaning towards equality in many respects when it comes to the sexes. Yes, women might not rule the world yet, but they are getting a lot of things that their counter parts in the rest of the world don't have. That being said, knowing what the situation is like in Asia and Africa, and having some second hand knowledge of south America where machismo is still alive and strong, i don't think the answer is to mimic what we see there.

The key as you've said it is having mutual respect, but also being proud of who you are. As a man, i wouldn't buy my girl things just to get affection (love), and i certainly wouldn't bow down just because women hold all the aces when it comes to the sex game. That doesn't mean however that i'll tell my friends who are whipped that they need to stand up and act tough in front of their girls. If you're ok with being whipped, good for you. It's about how you deal with situations that's important. Preaching and generalizing about sexes is dangerous, because it assumes you have absolute knowledge on how the other sex thinks...and as arrogant as we men are about being all knowing, all powerfull...we have to admit, if there's one thing that's impossible to pin down completely -- it's the mind of a woman.

Women in other countries are more submissive then i've seen in Canada. But that certainly doesn't make it a good thing all the time. I have always believed that it should be your personality that determines how the balance of power tilts in your relationship. From my experience, in many countries outside the western world it is society which is inherently telling it's women that their role is to be submissive, and demure towards the men. A notion that is antiquated, and prevents women from achieving their full potential in life.

I can see how some men look back with nostalgia and wonder where the old days have gone. It's in the nature of Man (as a gender) to want the base of power to favor him. Fortunately the women here are strong, independant and have fought to gain the freedomes that they now enjoy. More power to them I say, because they've been overlooked for centuries and held back by men who were afraid of being overshadowed by them.

So the game has changed, and we aren't granted complete dominance anymore. If anything, it just makes the game all the more challenging and therefore worth playing in my opinion...

If you find a sister out there who's playing games, you have three choices, either back off and complain about how unfair it is, bow down and accept that there's nothing you can do about it, or step up and play the game the only way you know how. Like a man.

Actually society is leaning toward female dominance. Equality is only invoked when it's beneficial to the female. I dont know about the rest of South America but my experiences in Argentina were that the women there were very nice and sweet. However if you treated them like you do here (see diabolic as an example) theyd kick you out the door in a heartbeat. If you bought them expensive gifts they wouldnt accept them out of principle. I dont see that as being machismo. Even in Europe and western Canada i found the attitude to be much more relaxed. I didnt feel as if women were looking at guys as a commodity either.

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Originally posted by drewfactor Does anybody think that perhaps he does these posts and says all this stuff PURELY for effect? Just to get a rise out of everybody? Just as many people do on this forum? Maybe you can answer that d!abolic...Just a hunch. Perhaps we are all just feeding to this and encouraging this behaviour.

Of course he's doing it for effect. The man's a complete narcissist, and you don't need to have a degree in psychology to know this. I don't know if people get a genuine rise out of his posts either. I know i don't. My personal feeling when i see a diabolic thread goes something like this "Hmmm...I wonder just how egotistical this jackass is going to sound this time ?" then i quickly think "I wonder just how badly i'm going to burn him this time". It's all a game really. I would say he's the TOTA's favorite whipping boy, but that's not true either. I think diabolic loves the attention, just like Micheal Jackson...it doesn't really matter if it's postive or negative.

I really don't even care if the guys stories are real or fake either. What i do know is that i don't believe anyone who posts on an internet forum talking about how much game he has. If anyone knows any real players out there, they know...playa's don't talk, they just make moves...

Busta's talk...cause that's all they can do. So if sharing his exploits with a bunch of people he has never met makes Diabolic happy, then hey -- i'm glad to oblige by roasting him every now and then. Freedome of speech has to be respected -- but that sword definately cuts both ways.

There was a point when i would get pissed about the misuse of this forum, but i've reconciled myself with the truth -- that this place has grown too big for everyone to exercise clarity when posting on relavant topics.

That...and the world's full of assholes,wannabe pimps and weak ass bitches...so why should TOTA be any different.

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Originally posted by Jayx1 Actually society is leaning toward female dominance. Equality is only invoked when it's beneficial to the female. I dont know about the rest of South America but my experiences in Argentina were that the women there were very nice and sweet. However if you treated them like you do here (see diabolic as an example) theyd kick you out the door in a heartbeat. If you bought them expensive gifts they wouldnt accept them out of principle. I dont see that as being machismo. Even in Europe and western Canada i found the attitude to be much more relaxed. I didnt feel as if women were looking at guys as a commodity either.

I dunno about the "leaning towards female dominance" thing...I still believe men come out on top in that dubious stat. As far as the women in Argentina, well there can be many possible explanations why they might have reacted differently to you as opposed to women here. Once again, i hesitate to generalize here. I'm sure there are gold digger in Argentina as well. The fact you didn't run into any should be seen as good fortune on your part.

From what i've seen (TV) and heard, the men in South America are similar to men in Africa in that they are taught from the age of 6 to be more aggressive in their pursuit of women. It's something they learn by watching their fathers and the older men around them. I was told by a columbian chick once, that it wasn't uncommon for guys to gawk and use cat calls to attract random chicks they saw on the bus, or walking on the road. It wasn't seen as something rude, like it would in Canada. I know that happens where i've lived as well, and although women might feel uncomfortable at all the lascivious intent lavished upon them, they are programmed to accept it as a gender norm. It's unfair to critize or compare that to what happens here because of the differences in culture and how men and women are brought up and what they see happening around them.

If women in those countries are sweet and demure in their reaction to you, i don't know if you can automatically assume that's a good thing without really probing into why they all behave this way. It's a complex issue which definately has positive and negative sides associated with it.

Actually cat calling in argentina is seen as disrespect. In many ways Argentina is more a european country than a latin one due to the make up of its people. Mainly Italian, Spaniard and German in that order.

As for female dominance. Give me a break! take a closer look around you and all the hipocritical things that go one in respect to gender issues in this country.

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Originally posted by drewfactor Does anybody think that perhaps he does these posts and says all this stuff PURELY for effect? Just to get a rise out of everybody? Just as many people do on this forum? Maybe you can answer that d!abolic...Just a hunch. Perhaps we are all just feeding to this and encouraging this behaviour.

The amount of time it took for someone to finally figure this out is disturbing My mental image of most of the people on here:

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Originally posted by d!abolic The amount of time it took for someone to finally figure this out is disturbing My mental image of most of the people on here:

Man, you can't even come up with an original picture... I was posting that one two years ago, and even back then it wasn't new.

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Originally posted by d!abolic The amount of time it took for someone to finally figure this out is disturbing My mental image of most of the people on here: ...

nice try dude...but THAT is the mental image that everyone has of YOU

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Originally posted by Kytracid If anyone knows any real players out there, they know...playa's don't talk, they just make moves...

as if you knew any REAL players out there...

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