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Posted by Mr.Mystery on Nov-12-2004 02:11:

quote:
Originally posted by DRM
heh i suppose thats fair enuff atleast ur agreeing with me on something. as u can probably see it just gets on my tits when every thread i go into has just been turned into a "this track is mint" "no its not its shit" shite fest.

I've been trying to cut that down myself... about 2 years ago I was jumping on any flamewar I could find...


Posted by varun on Nov-12-2004 03:28:

All the clashing opinions is the suppressed leeerrrrvvee we have for each other


Posted by varun on Nov-12-2004 04:56:

quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
That's it right there, except that you're calling me a "piece of shit" which sure as hell is a direct insult at me rather than my works. I know plenty of people who don't like my productions at all. I am fully aware of the fact that not everyone likes me. Is bitching about it going to change their minds? I don't think so.

If an artist can't take negative feedback from their works then they shouldn't be in the business at all. Though in this case it's you who can't take negative feedback that isn't even directed at you which I cannot understand at all.


You yourself concede that you should think twice before posting. Thats exactly the reason why I insulted you at a personal level. Words hurt don't they? It is a 'sensitive' issue when it comes down judging someone on the work they do. Of course, negative feedback is something that has to be taken in a positive way. But, from what I can infer from your posts you generally don't give feedback but do all you can to make the person/artist feel bad on a personal and artistic level.
The reason I defend the artists is because it's not very encouraging for them when they(some, not all) genuinely put a lot of effort and time into their production just to have it spat at by tactless opinions such as yours.
Just remember one thing: what goes around, comes around.
Look at Sunquest's posts in the Amateur Music Producers Promotion Section to get an idea what constructive feedback should be like.
However, it's a shame that you haven't learned much in that department despite the fact that you've been around here for so long.


Posted by Dave Piazza on Nov-12-2004 05:45:

quote:
Originally posted by varun
You yourself concede that you should think twice before posting. Thats exactly the reason why I insulted you at a personal level. Words hurt don't they? It is a 'sensitive' issue when it comes down judging someone on the work they do. Of course, negative feedback is something that has to be taken in a positive way. But, from what I can infer from your posts you generally don't give feedback but do all you can to make the person/artist feel bad on a personal and artistic level.
The reason I defend the artists is because it's not very encouraging for them when they(some, not all) genuinely put a lot of effort and time into their production just to have it spat at by tactless opinions such as yours.
Just remember one thing: what goes around, comes around.
Look at Sunquest's posts in the Amateur Music Producers Promotion Section to get an idea what constructive feedback should be like.
However, it's a shame that you haven't learned much in that department despite the fact that you've been around here for so long.


good point.


Posted by Mr.Mystery on Nov-12-2004 14:42:

This does not concern you in the slightest, Dave, just walk away.


Posted by Mr.Mystery on Nov-12-2004 14:48:

quote:
Originally posted by varun
You yourself concede that you should think twice before posting. Thats exactly the reason why I insulted you at a personal level. Words hurt don't they? It is a 'sensitive' issue when it comes down judging someone on the work they do. Of course, negative feedback is something that has to be taken in a positive way. But, from what I can infer from your posts you generally don't give feedback but do all you can to make the person/artist feel bad on a personal and artistic level.
The reason I defend the artists is because it's not very encouraging for them when they(some, not all) genuinely put a lot of effort and time into their production just to have it spat at by tactless opinions such as yours.
Just remember one thing: what goes around, comes around.
Look at Sunquest's posts in the Amateur Music Producers Promotion Section to get an idea what constructive feedback should be like.
However, it's a shame that you haven't learned much in that department despite the fact that you've been around here for so long.

I always tell what I like and don't like about the track I listen to, I never say the tracks are crap without explaining why. If you look at my reviews at the amateur section you see that they might look harsh at first but they are purely written from a technical viewpoint and show the artist directly what's lacking (and also what's good) in their tunes. I feel that helps people to push their limits further when they get something else than unjustified praise and ass-kissing for a change (have you noticed how some people there never say anything negative about anything? Gotta wonder their motives...)

What goes around, comes around indeed. If someone wants to tell me my track is shit then they may feel free to do so... IF they can tell me why they felt it was shit.


Posted by stamper on Nov-13-2004 14:13:

From listening to the samples I like the Save Me release, gives some of us a chance to own it.

But those PHATT remixes are very average. To start a label by releasing 3+ remixes from an average artist isnt a good start imo.

I'll still be looking forward to future releases tho (apart fro mthose PHATT remixes).


Posted by Az on Nov-13-2004 14:26:

the phatt stuff is proper shit


Posted by Tenshi on Nov-13-2004 15:22:

quote:
Originally posted by Az
the phatt stuff is proper shit


i kinda like his remix of the cosmicman tune...very energetic! but it probably gets boring after a few listens!


Posted by Simcut on Nov-13-2004 15:59:

Thumbs down

quote:
Originally posted by Az
the phatt stuff is proper shit


what is your problem, give it a rest already....


Posted by Tenshi on Nov-13-2004 17:09:

quote:
Originally posted by Simcut
what is your problem, give it a rest already....


hey mate just ignore him! his criticism is "proper shit" - i think he's just jealous coz he would also want to release stuff like you do!

just put him on your ignore list, as he thinks hurting people is okay. i know p.h.a.t.t is on the board too...and i know he's quite young! he doesn't produce excactly the sound i like, but i think he has a great future upon him!

as he doesn't even have a little bit respect for the artist just don't waste your time on reading his posts!


Posted by Az on Nov-14-2004 19:16:

quote:
Originally posted by Tenshi
hey mate just ignore him! his criticism is "proper shit" - i think he's just jealous coz he would also want to release stuff like you do!

thats possibly the funniest thing I've ever read


Posted by Simcut on Nov-14-2004 19:47:

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until you produce something better Az, I think you should stfu :P


Posted by Az on Nov-15-2004 00:12:

quote:
Originally posted by Simcut
until you produce something better Az, I think you should stfu :P

pathetic


Posted by Ste on Nov-15-2004 16:29:

quote:
Originally posted by Simcut
firstly they are not poxy, did you listen to them, like you read the press release and completely did not read the fact that PHATT = Pierre Pienaar and NOT Brisky?

because the tunes are now out of press Monster re-licensed them and included some new mixes for those that would like them, it gives those a chance to get the original material as well as some new remixes to boot... okay you think its wrong, I dont and that is not the direction Monster Tunes or any of its sub-labels will be going, I can guarantee that.

There are so many tunes lined up for release over the coming months, just cause some of the first batch feature remixes of old tracks from 98-02 doesnt mean that is the direction all of the labels will be going in!!



a) yes i did listen to them, theyre all over chemicals "forthcoming" section. i dont comment on something i havnt heard, only morons do.

b) what does it matter if i thought phatt was brisky, it doesnt make a shit of a difference to the quality of the tracks. it was only a sweeping guess seeing as phatt seemed to be doing all of the tracks.

c) re-hashing old tracks is a bit crap, but can be pulled off well. however making a generic "cookie cutter" trance remix of them all is a bit wank really. and its not that i dont like uplifitng trance anymore, there is still the odd tune which doesnt sound like every other bastard tune out. these releases however, arn't one of them.


Posted by Ste on Nov-15-2004 16:30:

quote:
Originally posted by Az
thats possibly the funniest thing I've ever read


i bet your seething with jelously right now......


Posted by jcosgrove on Nov-15-2004 17:40:

im not overly keen on the PHATT stuff.

love the nickson mix of 2v2 but have played that one a lot....the emery vs brisky mix of dreamland sounds ok, but i never really liked the original first time around.....


Posted by Sami.H on Nov-15-2004 20:48:

Phatt remix of Crystal Dreams is great!


Posted by Joca on Nov-16-2004 01:22:

Simcut,

Do you have any info on a track by Activa that is going to be released on Monster? He posted a clip of the track in the Amateur Productions forum. I PM'ed him and he said that Monster had picked it up so I was wondering if you had any info as to when we might see a release?

I believe it was titled Activa Pres Excession - Release Me.


Posted by Simcut on Nov-16-2004 01:45:

Smile

Hiya, will find out for you....

Regards


Posted by ReBirth on Nov-18-2004 10:51:

Hi guys,

First things first : I didn't just decide to do remixes of Krystal Dreams and Believe and then release it. Monster Tunes approached me to remix it.

I do realise that I can't please everyone, and it's even harder if you're remixing a track that's a classic, because a lot of people always have it in their mind that it'll ruin the original...If you don't like them, don't buy them. Personally I think it gives the tune a new life, as many DJ's are afraid to play tracks older than a year.

Anyway, thanks for all the feedback (good and bad)

Pierre Pienaar (aka P.H.A.T.T.)


Posted by Simcut on Nov-18-2004 17:37:

Smile

Hello Pierre, man I didnt realise you were around TA since 2001, almost as long as I have been


Posted by DRM on Nov-18-2004 17:47:

quote:
Originally posted by ReBirth
Hi guys,

First things first : I didn't just decide to do remixes of Krystal Dreams and Believe and then release it. Monster Tunes approached me to remix it.

I do realise that I can't please everyone, and it's even harder if you're remixing a track that's a classic, because a lot of people always have it in their mind that it'll ruin the original...If you don't like them, don't buy them. Personally I think it gives the tune a new life, as many DJ's are afraid to play tracks older than a year.

Anyway, thanks for all the feedback (good and bad)

Pierre Pienaar (aka P.H.A.T.T.)


Hi Pierre, its nice to see some1 still giving hard trance a chance these days. I personally really like your stuff, krystal dreams remix is wicked. so keep it up mate


Posted by ReBirth on Nov-18-2004 17:49:

quote:
Originally posted by Simcut
Hello Pierre, man I didnt realise you were around TA since 2001, almost as long as I have been


Hey mate :-)

Yea, I registered ages ago, but I don't really get much time to come on unfortunately


Posted by ReBirth on Nov-29-2004 19:44:

quote:
Originally posted by DRM
Hi Pierre, its nice to see some1 still giving hard trance a chance these days. I personally really like your stuff, krystal dreams remix is wicked. so keep it up mate


Thanks man


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