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Posted by OurManFlint on Nov-19-2004 06:08:

Don't know if it was mentioned, but Brian Eno-An Ending is pretty classic.

Posted by DJ Cinos on Nov-19-2004 07:00:

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Have you even heard the tracks? There isn't a single synth in either of the original Tubular Bells sides. Tubular Bells 3 was quite synthy from what I remember of hearing it 5 years ago, but not the original. There's a list of instruments used on the back of the album, and no synths are used.

No, I haven't heard it, I'm commenting on how it sounds without having heard it.

Anyway, to me, it sounds very "synthetic". And Tu-face just said it's based on pads.

Now, who's right?

Posted by tubularbills on Nov-19-2004 07:03:

Re: Legends of EDM

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Originally posted by DJ Cinos
Now, I'm not speaking of classics, like Flaming June. I'm talking about LEGENDARY EDM, like Tubular Bells, and possibly Oxygene by Jarre...

List some.

Tubular Bells is fantastic. Mike Oldfield definately started the whole "instrumental" theme way back in the 70s. i learned how to play it on the piano, actually.

He continues to make music, even up to this day. Tubular Bells Vol 3 was Ibiza inspired, and other recent albums have been more Chillout type of music [not really new age, but kind of close].

I honestly can't believe someone else around here knows TB. wow. Not really EDM [More instrumental than anything, but regardless still a great piece of music].

Posted by DarkFall01 on Nov-19-2004 07:14:

Re: Re: Legends of EDM

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Originally posted by tubularbills
I honestly can't believe someone else around here knows TB.

Hell yeah, I've been a fan forever. Saw him once live in Zurich (TB2 Tour), best show I've been to

Posted by tu_face on Nov-19-2004 11:09:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Cinos

Anyway, to me, it sounds very "synthetic". And Tu-face just said it's based on pads.

Now, who's right?

as i said previously, i may be mixing it up with tubular bells 3, which is very paddy..

Posted by SYSTEM-J on Nov-19-2004 11:50:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Cinos
No, I haven't heard it, I'm commenting on how it sounds without having heard it.

Anyway, to me, it sounds very "synthetic". And Tu-face just said it's based on pads.

Now, who's right?

It isn't based on pads, and there isn't a single synth used. It's all real instruments done on a 16 track tape mixer. It isn't electronic any more than it was put togethor on a mixer, which practically every track from the last 25 years recorded in a studio has. Now stop talking as if you're familiar with the classics when you've probably owned it less than a month.

Posted by DJ Cinos on Nov-19-2004 12:29:

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
It isn't based on pads, and there isn't a single synth used. It's all real instruments done on a 16 track tape mixer. It isn't electronic any more than it was put togethor on a mixer, which practically every track from the last 25 years recorded in a studio has. Now stop talking as if you're familiar with the classics when you've probably owned it less than a month.

It sounds like it's made on synths NONTHELESS. Nothing you say can affect that. No matter if it doesn't have synths in it, it sounds like it does. Period.-

Posted by montana on Nov-19-2004 12:35:

i know someone already said Donna Summer - I Feel Love , which pwns almost everything everdone, but also

Donna Summer - I Feel Love (Patrick Cowley Mega Mix) , patrick cowley took i feel love and just through some simple added production, he created a epic journey out of an already brilliant track

Posted by SYSTEM-J on Nov-19-2004 12:35:

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It sounds like it's made on synths NONTHELESS. Nothing you say can affect that. No matter if it doesn't have synths in it, it sounds like it does. Period.-

So what? Tom Morrello can play a guitar to make it sound far more like a synthesisor than Tubular Bells, but I don't hear anyone saying Rage Against the Machine are EM. The only reason anyone counts Tubular Bells as electronic music is because Ishkur used it in his guide to show where electronic ambient came from.

Posted by DJ Cinos on Nov-19-2004 12:50:

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
So what? Tom Morrello can play a guitar to make it sound far more like a synthesisor than Tubular Bells, but I don't hear anyone saying Rage Against the Machine are EM. The only reason anyone counts Tubular Bells as electronic music is because Ishkur used it in his guide to show where electronic ambient came from.

He did?

Posted by SYSTEM-J on Nov-19-2004 13:04:

I wasn't saying you were just following Ish there, but I've no doubt you picked up the idea that Tubular Bells is electronic from this forum, and the idea only came to this forum when Ishkur put it in his guide.

Posted by DJ Cinos on Nov-19-2004 13:08:

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
I wasn't saying you were just following Ish there, but I've no doubt you picked up the idea that Tubular Bells is electronic from this forum, and the idea only came to this forum when Ishkur put it in his guide.

No, I seriously "heard" synths in it. Like after the main part plays for a while, there's a bassline in the back. But apparently it's instrumental bass. Why do you think I'm stupid/a lemming?

Posted by SYSTEM-J on Nov-20-2004 15:29:

You were calling it electronic in the thread when you were wondering whether to buy it, or some Jean Michell Jarre, so I assumed you hadn't heard it then as you hadn't bought it.

Posted by itsTrueSonic on Nov-20-2004 17:25:

i can't believe no on mentioned any Pet Shop Boys and Modern Talking .. some mentions of New Order .. of course "Blue Monday" ..

but my all-time fav of each :

Modern Talking - Do You Wanna (love the synth organization)
Pet Shop Boys - "what have i done to deserve this?" <== ( a rare song some people have not heard of before .. good beat and a good female vocal )

Posted by trancebrat on Nov-20-2004 17:28:

quote:
Originally posted by itsTrueSonic
i can't believe no on mentioned any Pet Shop Boys and Modern Talking .. some mentions of New Order .. of course "Blue Monday" ..

but my all-time fav of each :

Modern Talking - Do You Wanna (love the synth organization)
Pet Shop Boys - "what have i done to deserve this?" <== ( a rare song some people have not heard of before .. good beat and a good female vocal )

Pet Shop Boys were ahead of their time. I know the track that you mention.

Blue Monday is definitely a classic as well.

Posted by itsTrueSonic on Nov-20-2004 17:38:

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Originally posted by trancebrat
Pet Shop Boys were ahead of their time. I know the track that you mention.

definately yeah .. it was them, new order, and depeche mode during that time .. and INXS ..who remembers them? i don't know .. some people told me they were rock.. i found them a little bit EDM.. can anyone clarify on that??? .. modern talking came out before them, and they were good.

Posted by CND on Nov-20-2004 17:47:

No mention yet of Human League - Dare. A fine marriage of electronic pop and disco.

Also the first Spandau Ballet - Journeys to Glory. Before they lushed it up and made the girls cry. Chest thumping early electronic dance music.

Both still stand up today.

Posted by trancebrat on Nov-20-2004 18:09:

quote:
Originally posted by itsTrueSonic
definately yeah .. it was them, new order, and depeche mode during that time .. and INXS ..who remembers them? i don't know .. some people told me they were rock.. i found them a little bit EDM.. can anyone clarify on that??? .. modern talking came out before them, and they were good.

I just listened to West End Girls intentionally the other day so it was nice seeing someone mention them in this thread.

INXS was labeled a rock band but they were more alternative rock than anything. One member did play a keyboard so that might be the EDM sound that you are referring to. November 22nd will be the anniversary of Michael Hutchence's death.

A lot of the 70's and 80's alternative rock and new wave bands were a form of EDM. People just fail to realize that. Take YES for example. Their sound was primarily based on synthesizers and sound effects. Same with The Fixx. I'm waiting for a new remix of One Thing Leads to Another to come out the same way that artists such as Max Graham have remixed Owner of a Lonely Heart.

Posted by CATHAIN on Nov-20-2004 18:39:

orbital = pioneers

Posted by CND on Nov-20-2004 18:48:

True.

Yes are an enigma. Their earlier stuff (Yes Album) was "progressive" rock with a jazz thread. They ditched Tony Kaye in favor of Rick Wakeman and put much more emphasis on the "progressive" and keyboards. After some really fine work they slid into cape wearing over the top bombastic behavior, (ie Tales From Topigraphic Oceans), sowing the seeds for punk.

They reinvented themselves, (thanks to Trevor Rabin) and put out some first class pop.

I call them pioneers and have a lot to thank them for, both directly and indirectly.

Posted by Icesotope on Nov-21-2004 01:50:

Pump Panel - Ego Acid

Posted by armandzadza on Nov-21-2004 03:51:

Since Tubular Bells were brought up, I'll say Philip Glass - Koyaanisqatsi. Rent the DVD in your friendly neighborhood Blockbuster store!

Posted by Spacey Orange on Nov-21-2004 19:55:

Rick James - Super Freak

RIP

Posted by Floorfiller on Nov-21-2004 19:58:

haven't looked through the entire thread, but i figured one that might possbily be missed might be...

Ben Liebrand

definitely ahead of the times

Posted by nzo on Nov-21-2004 20:24:

Reel 2 Reel - I like to move it...inspired me to move it, move it - beautiful track.

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