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Posted by trancebrat on Dec-04-2004 09:04:

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Originally posted by malon-e
I can't wait for the Tiesto show. And then Edgar V at the Amp right after that. I think trance might be making a comeback to Tampa, hopefully. And I for one, absolutely without a doubt, hate hip hop. I play progressive house, progressive breaks, and trance at this club called the Chicaboom Room in Downtown Dunedin every other Friday night. And if I get one more friggan person come up to me and ask if I have any hip hop or rap, I'm gonna scream. Theres hundreds of other clubs in the area that play that garbage on Friday night, why do I have to play that crap too. I'm sorry but I don't "do it cuz everyone else does it". At least theres always a big turnout there, so I can expand the peoples minds whether they like it or not. Its been going strong for five months now. Sorry I just had to vent.

If I go out to a local club on a Friday night it is usually to Stormans to go listen to Paul spin. One of these Fridays I might have to come check out the Chicaboom Room. The name alone intrigues me.

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Originally posted by noelsanger
i think i will make the drive down and see some of you guys on wednesday... good fun... say hi...

noel

The night just got even better. I look forward to seeing you again, Noel.

Posted by Mattivi on Dec-04-2004 13:23:

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Originally posted by mrmorden
You know, I'm actually not sure which would be a better way to "introduce" Tiesto to Tampa. Sure, all of us TA's would LOVE to hear a "Magik" set, but I wonder if that's the best way to get people who aren't TA's into it. For example, a friend I'm bringing has never been to a trance set, but know's Tiesto from his remix of "Silence" and she's really curious to see him. Which would be a better Tiesto for her to be "introduced" to? The Tiesto that spun at Bayfront or at Space later that evening?

Just curious...

you pose an interesting query... i guess if your trying to expand the scene, a bayfront type set would be best, because it would be all his own productions mostly(which isnt bad, but we TA's have heard these tracks countless times)..but for the tiesto and trance neophytes out there, a bayfront set would be more "beginner friendly", because anthems tend to attract a beginner crowd....im pretty sure that since tampa is a new market for him, the set is going to be mostly his popular tracks, im skeptical to say it will be a 'magik' set, as it seems these days, the magik sets are few and far between, because; 1)he tours around the sphere and plays exhaustivly year round now, 2) there seems to be certain clubs, like space and clubs in europe, were the magik sets take place at. 3) concurrently with all the touring, his set quality has in turn is less consistent than in years past. plus i hate to say he has developed a bit of an acute "oakie complex" with all of his recent successes and has gone to his head(which is inevitable), and not to mention his track selection and musical style has changed, furthur eroding that once celestial, patented magik sound...but he still has the 'magik' like i mentioned at certain clubs or gigs were he is feeling the vibe, it seems to come out of him with more of an experienced crowd..case in point, space in march, epic set, then in june a bunch of kids, the poor set, than at space in sept, a good crowd, a magik set, so there is a pattern here...again the crowd, the club, and the vibe, and damons ubiquitous whistle play an integral part in the performance of the dj....and the fact that he plays five nights in a row sometimes, you just cant expect him to perform at a high level(magik sets), mix perfectly, etc, EVERY NIGHT, hell even MJ had bad nights, they are afterall HUMAN...im getting off subject but this is just my two cents...neil...

Posted by BshidoHEAT on Dec-04-2004 15:12:

quote:
Originally posted by malon-e
I can't wait for the Tiesto show. And then Edgar V at the Amp right after that. I think trance might be making a comeback to Tampa, hopefully. And I for one, absolutely without a doubt, hate hip hop. I play progressive house, progressive breaks, and trance at this club called the Chicaboom Room in Downtown Dunedin every other Friday night. And if I get one more friggan person come up to me and ask if I have any hip hop or rap, I'm gonna scream. Theres hundreds of other clubs in the area that play that garbage on Friday night, why do I have to play that crap too. I'm sorry but I don't "do it cuz everyone else does it". At least theres always a big turnout there, so I can expand the peoples minds whether they like it or not. Its been going strong for five months now. Sorry I just had to vent.

Yo man, hit us up with an addy, I visit my mom near Dunedin, I'd like to drop by see whats happening

Posted by mrmorden on Dec-04-2004 17:13:

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Originally posted by BshidoHEAT
Yo man, hit us up with an addy, I visit my mom near Dunedin, I'd like to drop by see whats happening

I did a quick web search and found this:

http://www.clearwaterbeachonline.co...p?REQ=view&id=7

Posted by mdamon7278 on Dec-04-2004 18:10:

Listen its Tampa plain and simple, its not Miami, its not New York, its just a town with little nite life!!!

Posted by malon-e on Dec-04-2004 18:55:

Here is the website address http://kellyschicaboom.com/ChicABoom/Home.htm
Yes, it is part of a very popular restaurant in Downtown Dunedin called Kelly's. But it is its own separate entity. There is a nice big covered outdoor patio, which is where I play. It is usually wall to wall out there. The people seem to like the music, except for the occasional ones requesting hip hop. But don't pay attention to the music schedule. They only put the bands that play live earlier in day on that schedule for some reason. I play from 11-2 every other Friday night, so the next night I play will be the 17th.

Posted by Nocturnal Vibe on Dec-04-2004 19:10:

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Originally posted by mdamon7278
Listen its Tampa plain and simple, its not Miami, its not New York, its just a town with little nite life!!!

I'm going to have to disagree with you dude. Tampa is the largest TV market in Florida, and the 13th largest metro in the country. Miami, New York, LA, and Chicago are in a class of their own. But outside of those four cities, we don't have it that bad here. I'll put our nightlife up against most cities. It might not be Miami and it might not be trance...but on any given night, I can find EDM at a vast array of nice locations.

Try living in places like Raleigh, Cleveland, Greensboro, or even New Orleans...where it can be a challenge even finding a DJ.

I think most are getting disillusioned with what is good nightlife. Ybor City, while is a bit young, is still one of the coolest, most urban, and largest nightlife districts in the southeast. You don't have to visit places like Full Moon Saloon, Skye, Empire or Hedo. Stick to Lotus, Amphitheater, Prana, Big City Tavern, Sakatini's, Czar, and Samari Blue.

And if we ever want to have a district similar to SoBe, we have to be willing to fight for the return of Ybor. SoHo is nice, but there just isn't the room for development or the urban vibe found down there.

Posted by malon-e on Dec-04-2004 19:17:

I couldn't agree more.

Posted by mdamon7278 on Dec-04-2004 19:18:

Well ybor, channel side, highpark, is not bad at all, Im from Fort Lauderdale and the nite life over here doesnt really impress me that much with what I love about wpb-fort lauderdale-miami-south beach, the people, certain kind of vibe I get from there then from here, I know mattivi and rounder would agree with me, that nite life over here mostly is hip hop and rap, and the ghetto and college population doesnt really swing with me, but I think its good that we are getting trance over here, but it only takes a certain kind of group to know this music, everyone else thinks that we roll our asses off, while rap,we drink our 40's, smoke our chronic, and roll in our SUV's with 26" rims!!!

Posted by ex-dj on Dec-04-2004 20:08:

orlando > tampa

Posted by mrmorden on Dec-04-2004 20:46:

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Originally posted by mdamon7278
Well ybor, channel side, highpark, is not bad at all, Im from Fort Lauderdale and the nite life over here doesnt really impress me that much with what I love about wpb-fort lauderdale-miami-south beach

Doug's already conceded that Tampa Bay isn't SoBe and I don't think it's really fair (or a good idea) to try to be. We in the Bay area should concentrate on how to cultivate a viable Bay Area trance/house vibe. Even SoBe wasn't "SoBe" at one point...

Posted by BshidoHEAT on Dec-04-2004 22:12:

It's because Tampa has the most deadlest roads.

Posted by Zewad on Dec-04-2004 22:58:

Posted by TranceJunky on Dec-04-2004 23:03:

I just moved here from Houston and I can say that the nightlife here is pretty good. The people make the nightlife and Florida residents are night people. The vibe in the state is diffrent. Texas is fun but oppressive. I was amazed with the abundance of good music. The first place I was taken to was Amp. and I had a great time. Houston is all about Hip-Hop. There was one AMAZING club there, but it was closed due to 277 drug arrests in half a year (that'll tell you what the sceene is all about there). Tampa breaks are fun, but it would be nice to see trance become more predominate.

Posted by trancebrat on Dec-05-2004 00:59:

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Originally posted by Nocturnal Vibe
I'm going to have to disagree with you dude. Tampa is the largest TV market in Florida, and the 13th largest metro in the country. Miami, New York, LA, and Chicago are in a class of their own. But outside of those four cities, we don't have it that bad here. I'll put our nightlife up against most cities. It might not be Miami and it might not be trance...but on any given night, I can find EDM at a vast array of nice locations.

Try living in places like Raleigh, Cleveland, Greensboro, or even New Orleans...where it can be a challenge even finding a DJ.

I think most are getting disillusioned with what is good nightlife. Ybor City, while is a bit young, is still one of the coolest, most urban, and largest nightlife districts in the southeast. You don't have to visit places like Full Moon Saloon, Skye, Empire or Hedo. Stick to Lotus, Amphitheater, Prana, Big City Tavern, Sakatini's, Czar, and Samari Blue.

And if we ever want to have a district similar to SoBe, we have to be willing to fight for the return of Ybor. SoHo is nice, but there just isn't the room for development or the urban vibe found down there.

I do agree that we have it better than some places. My problem is still with the scene. Yes some of those clubs may play EDM, but the EDM that they are playing are tracks that people such as myself are tired of hearing. Example...ATRC had been out for well over six months before I ever heard it at one club in Tampa. To the people here it was a brand new track while to me it was close to being played out. Granted we hear breakbeat tracks before most everyone else does since a lot of the breakbeat talent is from this general area, but what if people are tired of hearing breakbeat? I have no problem with really good prgoressive breaks, but the nu school breaks has got to go. The trance that does get played is the cheesy radio edited versions. Even the radio stations suck now. Look what happened to 95.7. That just blew me away. Did we really need more hip hop on the airwaves? If someone is driving in their car or they are in a store and a good EDM track comes on then that person may be inclined to want to hear that same track out in a club...thus creating a demand for the music in the club scene. It took 93.3 almost one year to play ATRC and when they did they announced it as a brand new track. How embarassing for them to be that far behind times. Rest assured that they have the brand new Britney or Christina before everyone else. That's what makes them "cool". Blah.

I miss the old days when Tampa was a different town. People that weren't around back then simply have no idea how great it once was. Someone please explain to me why it's been 5 1/2 years since Paul van Dyk was last here...why Ferry and Armin have never been here...and why Tiesto is now finally coming to Tampa for the first time. God bless Tampa's support for Icey and Baby Anne...but they live right up the street. They have been here how many times over the years?

I'm not stupid. I know that Tampa was once a big party/rave town and there was so many parties going on at one time that it might have seemed out of control to some. Anyone remember when all of Ybor (and other clubs around Tampa) used to stay open as late as they wanted? Some clubs closed at 3am while others simply put their liquor away and let the party continue until the sun came up. I think we have one or two late night clubs now. I've said this before and I will say it again...long live Thee Fantasy Ranch. The day they closed that club was the day the scene started to change. Same goes for Simons, Firestone, The Edge, etc.

Posted by Mattivi on Dec-05-2004 01:46:

quote:
Originally posted by trancebrat
I do agree that we have it better than some places. My problem is still with the scene. Yes some of those clubs may play EDM, but the EDM that they are playing are tracks that people such as myself are tired of hearing. Example...ATRC had been out for well over six months before I ever heard it at one club in Tampa. To the people here it was a brand new track while to me it was close to being played out. Granted we hear breakbeat tracks before most everyone else does since a lot of the breakbeat talent is from this general area, but what if people are tired of hearing breakbeat? I have no problem with really good prgoressive breaks, but the nu school breaks has got to go. The trance that does get played is the cheesy radio edited versions. Even the radio stations suck now. Look what happened to 95.7. That just blew me away. Did we really need more hip hop on the airwaves? If someone is driving in their car or they are in a store and a good EDM track comes on then that person may be inclined to want to hear that same track out in a club...thus creating a demand for the music in the club scene. It took 93.3 almost one year to play ATRC and when they did they announced it as a brand new track. How embarassing for them to be that far behind times. Rest assured that they have the brand new Britney or Christina before everyone else. That's what makes them "cool". Blah.

I miss the old days when Tampa was a different town. People that weren't around back then simply have no idea how great it once was. Someone please explain to me why it's been 5 1/2 years since Paul van Dyk was last here...why Ferry and Armin have never been here...and why Tiesto is now finally coming to Tampa for the first time. God bless Tampa's support for Icey and Baby Anne...but they live right up the street. They have been here how many times over the years?

I'm not stupid. I know that Tampa was once a big party/rave town and there was so many parties going on at one time that it might have seemed out of control to some. Anyone remember when all of Ybor (and other clubs around Tampa) used to stay open as late as they wanted? Some clubs closed at 3am while others simply put their liquor away and let the party continue until the sun came up. I think we have one or two late night clubs now. I've said this before and I will say it again...long live Thee Fantasy Ranch. The day they closed that club was the day the scene started to change. Same goes for Simons, Firestone, The Edge, etc.

orlando was once the same way back in the 90's...the problem now is that we are living under the age of generation hip hop, and that age demographic dominates the nightlife scene now, and hence the dilution of edm in cities like tampa and orlando...its a shame but the reality.. edm seems now to only thrive in the posh and sleek metropolitan areas like miami, socal, and nyc(and even shit hop is gaining in those areas too)...increasing urbanazation has fostered the explosion of the hip hop culture, and it is methodically taking a stranglehold on cities like tampa and orlando nationwide, to me this is a crisis, because the insidious influence this music(and i use that term loosely) has on our youth is mortifying...and you need just watch the news or go to a local public school to see this pernicious hip hop attitude manifested, its really disconcerting...hopefully things will turn around but i dont see that happening for at least five years or so...hopefully the current form of hip hop is a fad and disenigrates and a more positive form takes it place.. and edm gains a more competitive piece of music/nightlife scene...only time will tell

Posted by Krypton on Dec-05-2004 02:15:

whats with 93.1 being south florida's pure dance channel. they are the ONLY dance channel. they play crap tracks all day long from 2 or 3 years ago. i still wait for the day we have a real EDM radio station in florida. maybe it can be started out of some club here in tampa, u never know. u could make mad cash too..

Posted by Nocturnal Vibe on Dec-05-2004 02:15:

I can understand your desire to be at the forefront of a certain genre. But doesn't that seem to be nitpicking a bit? I mean, like I said, I'm used to living in cities that lacked EDM all-together.

And I'm not so sure Tampa is as far behind the mix as it may seem. Most of the places I go seems to have a grasp on the latest of their genre. For example, my good friend Joshua Wilkins will be spinning house tonight at HPC. There isn't a night when he and JASK are putting out the best of House music today. In fact, their residency at HPC is literally putting Tampa on the house music map. They now have people like Louie Vega and DJ Heather booked many months in advance.

And places like The Amp are doing all they can to bring in the best of Trance and Breaks. Just look at who they booked this year alone...
Yes, the usual suspects in Icey and Baby Anne. But lets not forget Oakenfold, Sasha, Bad Boy Bill, Richard "Humpty" Vission and now Tiesto. Or how about DJ Irene and Crystal Method at Masquerade. And that doesn't include one of my favorite DJs, Santana at various places all over the Bay area.

The point is... Tampa might be a step behind Miami or LA when it comes to trance. But it's not so far off that we can't work with people like Santana to make it happen. And we're already on point when it comes to house and breaks. Like I said, aside from Miami, LA, NYC, Chicago or Vegas, I don't see another city with dramatically better nightlife.

Posted by trancebrat on Dec-05-2004 03:03:

I never said I wanted to be on the cutting edge of music. If I did I would have already moved away from here. I just hate that there isn't too many places to go anymore yet there are tons of clubs in Tampa. I'm looking for that one club that has that really good vibe that just sucks you in. The scene is nothing like it used to be.

HPC has always been its own unique place. I used to go there all the time on Friday nights simply because of the music and the vibe. I love the relaxed layout of HPC. Same with Mangroves. Friday nights was always trance, ambient, and downtempo with breaks at the end of the evening. I'm not a huge house fan, but at least they try to be different by having a different format than everyone else on Saturday nights. HPC is also good on Tuesday nights. HPC and Mangroves are viewed as lounges though...not clubs. I heard that even HPC has started playing hip hop. Is this true?

BTW...Richard "Humpty" Vission didn't do well. They should have went after Ferry! I could care less if anyone brings back Oakenfold anytime soon after the performance that he put on back in March.

To hell with it....here's to Tiesto! May the Amphitheater have no clue what hit them after Wednesday night!

Posted by Nocturnal Vibe on Dec-05-2004 03:12:

I think I agree with you in a round-about way. But you're right... here is to Tiesto. Wednesday will be one heck of a party!

BTW...are you coming out tonight? I think your brother might meet us at HPC alittle later.

Posted by trancebrat on Dec-05-2004 03:19:

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Originally posted by Nocturnal Vibe
I think I agree with you in a round-about way. But you're right... here is to Tiesto. Wednesday will be one heck of a party!

BTW...are you coming out tonight? I think your brother might meet us at HPC alittle later.

I didn't have plans to. No one invited me.

Posted by Nocturnal Vibe on Dec-05-2004 03:25:

Well then come out to HPC and hangout with us. I'm leaving the office around 11:45 to head over with my fiance and a bunch of friends.

Not sure when Matt was going to try and get over there. He said it all depended on how things went with some ladies he was to meet.

Posted by trancebrat on Dec-05-2004 03:37:

I might not be able to make it tonight, but I will definitely see you on Wednesday. Have a good time just the same.

Posted by Nocturnal Vibe on Dec-05-2004 03:42:

That sounds good. Have a wonderful evening!

Posted by Mattivi on Dec-05-2004 04:56:

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Originally posted by ::TranceVanDyk::
whats with 93.1 being south florida's pure dance channel. they are the ONLY dance channel. they play crap tracks all day long from 2 or 3 years ago. i still wait for the day we have a real EDM radio station in florida. maybe it can be started out of some club here in tampa, u never know. u could make mad cash too..

what would u say should be the first club i ever go to when when i finally turn 18.

while 93.1 does play pure cheese during the day, at night that is not the case..quality broadcast like global dj hostd by markus shulz, nokturnal sessions with edgar v, george acosta, and oakenfold also have there radio shows broadcasted on 93.1. so unless you were misinformed, 93.1 doesnt play just cheese and crap...and i wouldnt hold your breath on tampa starting up a "real edm radio"..

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