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Posted by getfoul on Dec-05-2004 20:33:

One thing that people have to remember while reading this is that most of it is opinion and personal preference. No one should be able to tell you what you will or wont like. Go out and try out the different players and see what you think suits your needs best.

























































buy an ipod


Posted by kamil on Dec-05-2004 21:36:

the 15 hours of battery life that apple claims on NEW iPods, is still CRAP and NOONE will get 15 hours, its more like 12 or 13.

That being said, the old ones with 8 hours, last more like 4-6 hours.

With an avg. of 5 and 12 hours on new ones,

WHATS THE FUCKING POINT OF HAVING 10 OR MORE GIGS ON A PORTABLE DEVICE?

The battery will ESPECIALLY go down if ure going from track to track to track all over the place from various artists, and thats the POINT! To randomize your tune selections! But NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! YOU CANT, because the battery life is

HORSESHIT to begin with on iPod!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

IF i were to buy a new HD MP3 player, it would be EITHER:

Sony NW-HD3
or
Cowon iAudio (around 24 hours of actual battery life, slightly bigger than ipod)


Posted by goodgreef on Dec-05-2004 21:43:

quote:
Originally posted by kamil
the 15 hours of battery life that apple claims on NEW iPods, is still CRAP and NOONE will get 15 hours, its more like 12 or 13.


they measure it as NON STOP (and they claim that too)
they usually advertise as 15 hours of non-stop play - meaning that when u just let the ipod play without playing around with the backlight/switching songs non stop and doing things that will make the drive spin harder...then OBVIOUSLY your batt life will be longer.

i bet when iriver (OR ANY OTHER BATTERY POWERED DEVICE) states their "estimated batt life"... they estimate it based on non-stop play...


Posted by getfoul on Dec-05-2004 21:52:

quote:
Originally posted by kamil
WHATS THE FUCKING POINT OF HAVING 10 OR MORE GIGS ON A PORTABLE DEVICE?


The point is so you don't have to continually have it hooked up to the computer to change around your selection of music. With 10+ gigs you can have the selection that you wouldnt with a 512 or 256 meg memory device. I love being able to go and say, "Hey, what set do i want to listen to now." and look through and have 500+ sets to choose from.


Posted by _Supreme on Dec-05-2004 21:55:

you are so right!!
i have an ipod now, but i want that iriver!!


Posted by ShadoWolf on Dec-05-2004 21:56:

People, people....


....who the hell cares about aesthetics???


Posted by kamil on Dec-05-2004 22:03:

quote:
Originally posted by getfoul
The point is so you don't have to continually have it hooked up to the computer to change around your selection of music. With 10+ gigs you can have the selection that you wouldnt with a 512 or 256 meg memory device. I love being able to go and say, "Hey, what set do i want to listen to now." and look through and have 500+ sets to choose from.


no, because when u flip through those sets, ure draining ure battery, and it doesnt last, please, gimme a break, i have an ipod (well had, its supposed to be shipped back to me, but apples a fucking joke with ipods and i still havent gotten it back) and it never lasts a fair amount.

I listen to at least 3 hours of music on the go, a day. Thankfully, i recharge my battery only once every two or three weeks. And its not so bad with having discs. I like whipping out my MDs and people staring at the coolness and ORIGINALITY factor, as opposed to everyone else being a fucking ipod DRONE.


Posted by Sunsnail on Dec-05-2004 22:21:

I hate my mp3 player. Tell me more about this MiniDisc.....


Posted by kamil on Dec-05-2004 22:31:

quote:
Originally posted by Sunsnail
I hate my mp3 player. Tell me more about this MiniDisc.....


www.t-station.net

Mines a Sony MZ-N910 (possibly the best non Hi-MD)

But if you really want a lot of recording space, try the Sony MZ-NH900



1GB per disc, and acts as an HD, plus external battery, line in and mic in, optical in, everything is there man, its beautiful especially if you DJ


Posted by fbgdavidson on Dec-05-2004 22:34:

quote:
Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit
in about 4 secons you can be at 141 minutes into the set

or doyou have to hold fast forward for like 10 minutes


I've got quite an old Sony Minidisc too and if you pause then fast forward it fast forwards about three minutes for every second you hold it down.

Ok so it's not 4seconds to 141mins but then there is the track break button so you can just break down long sets into 10min gaps with a click.


Posted by kamil on Dec-05-2004 22:39:

quote:
Originally posted by fbgdavidson

Ok so it's not 4seconds to 141mins but then there is the track break button so you can just break down long sets into 10min gaps with a click.


And THAT, is simply fucking GENIOUS from sony!

Ive recorded so many sets off of DI and other online radios or WHATEVER, and track mark functions works like a CHARM!!


Posted by ShadoWolf on Dec-05-2004 22:44:

What's the best USBOTG device?


Posted by kamil on Dec-05-2004 22:59:

quote:
Originally posted by ShadoWolf
What's the best USBOTG device?


wtf is usbotg????

i know what USB is, but OTG????


Posted by ShadoWolf on Dec-05-2004 23:17:

quote:
Originally posted by kamil
wtf is usbotg????

i know what USB is, but OTG????


On The Go, i.e. you don't need a computer


Posted by kamil on Dec-05-2004 23:38:

quote:
Originally posted by Dmatrox
I have no complaints with my ipod.

Ive left my ipod in cold weather ~0 degrees C for 2 days, never discharged.



yes it did, if not, then not completely discharged. the ipod halfass retarded ass hard drive is always on, there for, if u left it for 10 days, ud need to recharge it. its in "sleep" mode, not actually OFF.

fucking morons working @ apple.


Posted by {b.s.e.} on Dec-05-2004 23:45:

quote:
Originally posted by kamil
fucking morons working @ apple.



what about all those people that actually care this much about ipods?


Posted by cheesy on Dec-05-2004 23:48:

quote:
Originally posted by kamil


You're a fucking moron, STFU.


Posted by Hg-203 on Dec-06-2004 00:01:

The only problem I have with MD players are that when you transfer a song over to your MD player it needs to be converted, now mind you I’m a few generations out of date (I have an MD 707), and after you convert the song the converted atrac3 sits on your HD which took up valuable space on my Hard drives. Aside from that the MD player worked great until I broke the headphone jack. Does anyone know if Sony still forces the MP3 to Atrac3 conversion and save the Atrac3 on the hard drive?

Also about battery charging, all lithium Ion batteries like to be charged as often as possible, it increases the battery life, so if you have a 95% full battery and you can charge it, charge it. It's better for the battery then if you charge it at 25%.

http://www.batteryuniversity.com/parttwo-36.htm
“If possible, do not discharge lithium-based batteries too deeply. Instead, recharge more often.�?

And as for me I’m using a Creative Nomad Zen Xtra, the file transfers seem finicky and I can’t transfer some sets for some reason, but I got it off of Amazon for 170 so I can’t complain payed half as much as an Ipod 40 gig or an I river.


Posted by {b.s.e.} on Dec-06-2004 00:03:

quote:
Originally posted by cheesy
You're a fucking moron, STFU.


do you work at Apple, by chance?


Posted by kamil on Dec-06-2004 00:05:

quote:
Originally posted by {b.s.e.}
what about all those people that actually care this much about ipods?


what about them? they payed 500 bucks to get fucked in the ass by a PEICE OF SHIT PRODUCT!!!!


Posted by kamil on Dec-06-2004 00:06:

quote:
Originally posted by cheesy
You're a fucking moron, STFU.


go fuck yourself, fucking apple zealot peice of trash.


Posted by wwu.punisher on Dec-06-2004 00:06:

quote:
Originally posted by Solstice
Oh - and BTW its all about the interface and ease of use, ipod is oh so smooth.


Smooth... yeah... smooth like trying to drink a glass of broken razor blades.


Posted by {b.s.e.} on Dec-06-2004 00:09:

quote:
Originally posted by wwu.punisher
Smooth... yeah... smooth like trying to drink a glass of broken razor blades.


i think if you used the analogy "smooth like snorting jibb" Sylee would understand you better.


Posted by kamil on Dec-06-2004 00:10:

quote:
Originally posted by wwu.punisher
Smooth... yeah... smooth like trying to drink a glass of broken razor blades.


no hes actually right. the interface is very good, going from artist to artist, track to track, scrolling instead of fast forwarding, is beautiful on the ipod. the scroll feature, is actually amazing. this feature alone is worth 100 bucks.

but the the poor battery life is worth -300 bucks.


Posted by beats and beeps on Dec-06-2004 00:35:

I still say the fourth generation of ipods are sweet. They dont have those four stupid buttons below the screen like the 3g.

Plus, I dont think 12 hours is a fair enough battery.


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