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Posted by Floorfiller on Dec-27-2004 22:25:

ok i'm a little late on this one...8.9 is a huge fucking quake...i thought some of the california quakes i'd been in were pretty bad


anyway...just out of curiosity...what was the largest earthquake on the rictor scale ever recorded?


Posted by Ian on Dec-27-2004 22:26:

The largest earthquake ever recorded in the United States would probably be the 1964 Alaska earthquake, which measured in with a moment magnitude of 9.2

The largest earthquake ever recorded was in Chile on May 22, 1960, with a magnitude (Mw) of 9.5

edit - ooh that was on my dads 17th birthday


Posted by Floorfiller on Dec-27-2004 22:28:

well shit...that one was getting pretty close


Posted by Ian on Dec-27-2004 22:30:

quote:
Originally posted by Floorfiller
well shit...that one was getting pretty close


for sure. Major damage has been caused. It's pretty scary personally cos 2 years ago on this very week my uncle & auntie were in Phuket which got hit bad


Posted by noikeee on Dec-27-2004 22:30:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/3963563.stm

quote:

Tidal wave threat 'over-hyped'

The risk of a landslide in the Canary Islands causing a tidal wave (tsunami) able to devastate America's east coast is vastly overstated.
That is the view of marine geologists studying ancient landslides in the area.

In typical Canary Island landslides, chunks of land break off in bits, not in one dramatic plunge, they argue.

This contradicts previous warnings that an Isle of Man-sized chunk of land could fall off the island of La Palma into the sea, causing a mega-tsunami.

However, the researchers behind the original claim are sticking to their guns, pointing to evidence of catastrophic past events in the region.

'Worst-case scenario'

Back in 1999, scientists at University College London published a paper about a volcano on the island of La Palma. They predicted that, if it erupted, the volcano could cause a landslide in which a massive chunk of land fell into the ocean.

They then proposed that a landslide this big would generate a mighty tsunami big enough to cross the Atlantic, devastating the Caribbean and the eastern seaboard of the US.

If you break [a brick] up into 10 pieces and drop them in one by one you're going to get 10 much smaller splashes

Russell Wynn, Southampton Oceanography Centre
With talk of a possible wall of water 50m high, their predictions were jumped on by the world's media.

But researchers taking part in a three-week research cruise aboard Southampton Oceanography Centre's research ship, the RRS Charles Darwin, say the threat is far lower than previous warnings would suggest.

Doug Masson, who has been researching Canary Islands landslides for 20 years, says the models are a worst-case scenario.

Coring equipment is being used to collect samples of rock sediment deposited by underwater avalanches that were in turn caused by previous landslides on La Palma.


Researchers on board the RRS Charles Darwin say the threat is far lower than previous warnings would suggest
By looking at layering in the sediments, the scientists can work out whether the debris landed on the ocean floor in one big lump or in several smaller stages. And the Southampton researchers say that other samples from the Canaries suggest their "bit-by-bit" scenario is common, if not ubiquitous to these landslides.

Russell Wynn, who is leading the research cruise, says it means there is a lot less to worry about if a landslide is triggered.

"If you take a brick and drop it in a bath you're going to generate quite a big splash.

"But if you break the brick up into 10 pieces and drop them in one by one you're going to get 10 much smaller splashes".

Melting rock

None of this impresses the team that proposed the original mega-tsunami theory. Bill McGuire is director of the Benfield Hazard Research Centre at University College London. He argues that evidence on the surface of the Canary Islands shows that previous landslides have been catastrophic.

On the island of El Hierro, a semi-circular escarpment of rock left behind after a landslide is covered in melted rock. Conclusive evidence, says Bill McGuire, of a dramatic event.

"This thing moved so quickly that it heated the rock through friction and melted it. That is a catastrophic event," he said.

Other evidence that Canary Islands landslides have had a colossal impact has come from the Bahamas themselves where boulders of rock have been discovered 20m above sea-level.

How they got there was a mystery until the timing of their deposition was linked to a past landslide - in the Canaries. Many scientists now believe that landslides in the past have triggered deadly mega-tsunamis.

So Bill McGuire is sticking to the predictions his team have made. Making no apology for backing a worst-case model, he says: "There's no question of hiding things. If you're planning for any future disaster you're not going to consider the least disastrous scenario, you're going to consider the most."

When Southampton's marine geologists return to the UK, they hope to bring with them evidence that landslides in the Canary Islands are more gradual events.


I can sleep now at night


Posted by Ian on Dec-27-2004 22:35:

quote:
Originally posted by paranoik0
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/3963563.stm



I can sleep now at night


tbh mate there's going to be a lot of arguments either way. From what I saw on the tv, more than a 'small chunk' moved last time, half a volcano moved 5 metres down towards the sea, so if it all moved on the final drop into the water, these problems could happen. Fortunately it shouldn't be in our lifetimes... I hope not anyway as I'm planning to live on Fuerteventura


Posted by Plastick on Dec-28-2004 04:58:

TOLL as @ 1141 SST on 28 Dec>>
Countries Deaths Injured
Bangladesh 2
India 7,396
Indonesia 4,912 up to 100,000
Malaysia 59 218
Maldives 52
Myanmar 34
Somalia 38
Sri Lanka 10,200
Thailand 990 7,000
Total 23,683 -


Largest Earthquakes in the World Since 1900


Deaths in Indonesia alone could surpass 25,000, official says


Posted by Plastick on Dec-28-2004 05:13:

U.N.: More than 1/3 of victims kids


Posted by erdega on Dec-28-2004 05:22:

scary


Posted by Plastick on Dec-28-2004 06:03:

TOLL as @ 1320 SST on 28 Dec>>
Countries Deaths Injured
Bangladesh 2
India 9,396
Indonesia 4,912 up to 100,000
Malaysia 59 218
Maldives 52
Myanmar 34
Somalia 38
Sri Lanka 10,530
Thailand 990 7,000
Total 26,013 -
Source: Reuters


Posted by Radagast on Dec-28-2004 06:30:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_I...rian_assistance

Heh. Well there you go.


Posted by Plastick on Dec-28-2004 06:47:

TOLL as @ 1419 SST on 28 Dec>>
Countries Deaths Injured
Bangladesh 2
India 9,396
Indonesia 4,912 up to 100,000
Malaysia 59 218
Maldives 52
Myanmar 34
Somalia 38
Sri Lanka 12,212
Thailand 990 7,000
Total 27,695 -
Source: Reuters


Posted by Plastick on Dec-28-2004 09:59:

TOLL as @ 1711 SST on 28 Dec>>
Countries Deaths Injured

Bangladesh 2
India 9,499
Indonesia 5,700 up to 100,000
Kenya 1
Malaysia 59 218
Maldives 52
Myanmar 34
Somalia 38
Sri Lanka 12,212
Tanzania 10
Thailand 1,473 7,000
Total 29,030 -
Source: Reuters


FOREIGNERS DEATH TOLL as @ 1657 SST on 28 Dec>>
Countries Deaths Missing
Austria 4
Australia 6 11
Belgium 2 17
Canada 3
China 7
Denmark 2
France 6 16
Germany 4
Italy 11 100
Japan 9
New Zealand 1
Norway 13
Portugal 3
Singapore 2
South Africa 2 2
South Korea 3 12
Sweden 10
Taiwan 1
UK 12
USA 8
Total 99 168
Source: Reuters


Posted by _Supreme on Dec-28-2004 11:59:

damn, look at these movies to get an idea of the fear they must have felt!!

http://www.volkomenkut.com/media/tsunami/3537.WVX
http://www.volkomenkut.com/media/ts...unamiphuket.wmv
http://www.volkomenkut.com/media/ts...atong_beach.wmv
http://www.volkomenkut.com/media/ts...nka_tsunami.wmv

we're so fragile


Posted by Jackson on Dec-28-2004 12:40:

quote:
Originally posted by _Supreme
damn, look at these movies to get an idea of the fear they must have felt!!

http://www.volkomenkut.com/media/tsunami/3537.WVX
http://www.volkomenkut.com/media/ts...unamiphuket.wmv
http://www.volkomenkut.com/media/ts...atong_beach.wmv
http://www.volkomenkut.com/media/ts...nka_tsunami.wmv

we're so fragile


BBC showed the one in Sri Lanka but the otherss are crazy!


Posted by smallSHEEP on Dec-28-2004 12:43:

quote:
Originally posted by _Supreme
damn, look at these movies to get an idea of the fear they must have felt!!

http://www.volkomenkut.com/media/tsunami/3537.WVX
http://www.volkomenkut.com/media/ts...unamiphuket.wmv
http://www.volkomenkut.com/media/ts...atong_beach.wmv
http://www.volkomenkut.com/media/ts...nka_tsunami.wmv

we're so fragile


wow those are amazing. I can't belive the guy in the second one kept filming!


Posted by Plastick on Dec-28-2004 13:31:

One more to add:

http://www.veluwen.demon.nl/zeebeving.avi

Taken from a news report, it has an extra footage from Penang, Malaysia.


Posted by _Supreme on Dec-28-2004 13:46:

it's crazy...
on the last movie i posted, a stupid dutch man is just talking about the cars and the restaurant!! "look, the cars! there is water in the city!!.. " some people...he didn't even noticed that there were people in there


Posted by krivi on Dec-28-2004 13:50:

any TA's from there?


Posted by Jackson on Dec-28-2004 13:51:

I wondered what he was saying....i could hear him saying "Hey...hey...hey" as the waves were getting closer...what was he saying about the restaurant?


Posted by _Supreme on Dec-28-2004 13:53:

he was just saiying:

look the water is going trough the restaurant!!
look, hey.. hey!! the water is in the city!!
hey, there is collapsing something there,
damn, i was shaking in my bed before...


that's about what he said


Posted by Jackson on Dec-28-2004 14:14:

thanks for clearing that up.

anyone know how badly Borneo was hit? i'm supposed to be going there in 2006.

Also (for you TA geologists) ass the tidal waves have travelled west and affected Africa (Around 150 killed there now), is it possible that the wave could be travelling east and affect places like Hawaii and west coast US? i mean not cause destruction but just some larger waves maybe?


Posted by MiB on Dec-28-2004 14:32:

quote:
Originally posted by smallSHEEP
wow those are amazing. I can't belive the guy in the second one kept filming!


swedish guy.. he has not like anywhere to go so just keeps filming..

to much ppl already missing from sweden so far..poor ppl.. have heard that friends that i have downthere should be home again now.. i hope..


Posted by Plastick on Dec-28-2004 14:44:

Confirmed death toll in Asian quake and tsunamis exceeds 55,000

Death toll: Sri Lanka - 17,640; India - 8,523; Indonesia - 27,174; Thailand - 1,439; Malaysia - 65; Myanmar - 90; Maldives - 55; Bangladesh - 2; Somalia - 100; Tanzania - 10; Total: 55,098. - AFP


Posted by Jackson on Dec-28-2004 15:33:

quote:
Originally posted by Plastick
Confirmed death toll in Asian quake and tsunamis exceeds 55,000

Death toll: Sri Lanka - 17,640; India - 8,523; Indonesia - 27,174; Thailand - 1,439; Malaysia - 65; Myanmar - 90; Maldives - 55; Bangladesh - 2; Somalia - 100; Tanzania - 10; Total: 55,098. - AFP


I remember when i watched it on bbc when it waas "Breaking news" maybe 30mins - 1hour after it happened and they said up to 90 people were killed, the a couple of hours later it was 650.....now it just keeps going up and up!


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