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Posted by Ory on Jan-08-2005 23:30:

quote:
Originally posted by dj jasonF
so you became one?

Not really.

Posted by Tayfoon on Jan-08-2005 23:40:

GET BACK ON THE FUCKIN TOPIC

Posted by LeiWM06 on Jan-08-2005 23:52:

Ok, how about:
Paavo Siljam�ki (from Above and Beyond)
"I'm pissed off about religion, it's good for people, but at the same time it makes people becoming bad, I mean, all the wars since ever always been because of religion, so that's why I don't like religion, I'm atheist, and I think religion is good for education, but it can also be sh*t for many things, you also need it, but at the same time when you grow up, you need to get rid of it."

On Radio 1

Posted by Cobalt on Jan-09-2005 00:13:

quote:
Originally posted by Subey
Ory hijacks every thread with his beligerent attitude. He needs to learn that "Discretion is the better part of valour" but I don't think he understands such concepts... so i'll talk to him in a language he understands...

Of all people in this thread to claim as arson, you pick Ory? In all honesty, "dj jasonF" has been far more beligerent here.

Give me condescending progheads over profane, irrational trance relativists any day.

Posted by R.j. on Jan-09-2005 00:14:

i got boxes

Posted by dj jasonF on Jan-09-2005 00:18:

Posted by Cobalt on Jan-09-2005 00:21:

quote:
Originally posted by dj jasonF
i never attacked (first) or made a comment about other ppls tastes... (while being offencive) you are prob the same type as ory so i dont wanna start a conversation with you, i just wanted to reply to your comment

If you mean a condescending proghead, no, I definitely am not one. But good job jumping to irrational conclusions.

You used hostile, aggressive language and insults when you easily could have made your points without it. I'm not talking about the content of your argument, I'm talking about the total disregard for igniting a flame war.

Posted by dj jasonF on Jan-09-2005 00:26:

quote:
Originally posted by Cobalt
If you mean a condescending proghead, no, I definitely am not one. But good job jumping to irrational conclusions.

You used hostile, aggressive language and insults when you easily could have made your points without it. I'm not talking about the content of your argument, I'm talking about the total disregard for igniting a flame war.

thats why i said prob.

i was agressive cuz these type off comments make me mad. maybe it wasnt the best way but ive seen ory in other threads and i think he doesnt deserve any respect.

Posted by Ory on Jan-09-2005 00:49:

I don't really give a shit about how much respect you give me, sweetheart.

Posted by DickieThijssen on Jan-09-2005 01:07:

stop the war! we are in edm together, we have to help each other... This is like giraffes eating giraffemeat instead of leaves... Hmmmm, well never mind stupid comparison

Posted by Subey on Jan-09-2005 01:34:

quote:
Originally posted by Cobalt
Of all people in this thread to claim as arson, you pick Ory? In all honesty, "dj jasonF" has been far more beligerent here.

Give me condescending progheads over profane, irrational trance relativists any day.

here's an english comprehension class for ya Cobalt

quote:
Originally posted by moondog
nearly every thread seems to turn into a flame war, just chill the fuck out people.

"nearly every thread", that statement made by moondog means that he feels that many threads suffer. His comment includes this one (which obviously has...) but obviously extends beyond.

Likewise since you read these forums you are aware that Ory words his comments in such a manner in many threads to incite trouble.

quote:
Originally posted by Durrrtysouth
Ory get the fuck out of this thread you troll!

quote:
Originally posted by torontotrance
ah come on people, ory is being a troll.

Likewise the issue isn't one of musical taste even though you wish to frame it within that context... for some reason you are oblivious to the concept of atmosphere... that's what we are discussing.

Posted by Cobalt on Jan-09-2005 01:47:

quote:
Originally posted by Subey
Likewise the issue isn't one of musical taste even though you wish to frame it within that context...

I do? Perhaps in other threads, not this one. But kudos for conflating my musical opinion elsewhere with my point here.

I'm not claiming that Ory isn't stirring up argument, but that in no way excuses the behavior of "dj jasonF". That's like saying it's okay to beat the crap out of someone for calling you a name. It's a matter of controlling reaction.

quote:
for some reason you are oblivious to the concept of atmosphere... that's what we are discussing.

Uh, what are you saying, exactly? What is "the concept of atmosphere"?

Posted by DickieThijssen on Jan-09-2005 01:48:

i'm out! no english dictionary at hand

Posted by Ory on Jan-09-2005 02:46:

Concept of atmosphere.

Posted by websley on Jan-09-2005 02:59:

The only reason that I don't dispise progheads on this forum is because they show the nOObs that there's actually 'better' music around. That's the progheads' quest, really... To get more listeners.
And that probably sucks, cause everyone knows that most respected IDM artists are MUCH more inventive in creating music than proghouse producers

Posted by Cobalt on Jan-09-2005 03:12:

quote:
Originally posted by websley
The only reason that I don't dispise progheads on this forum is because they show the nOObs that there's actually 'better' music around. That's the progheads' quest, really... To get more listeners.
And that probably sucks, cause everyone knows that most respected IDM artists are MUCH more inventive in creating music than proghouse producers

Ahahahahahaha

Posted by Ory on Jan-09-2005 03:20:

Posted by websley on Jan-09-2005 03:26:

quote:
Originally posted by Ory
Duh. But stuff by, say, Autechre doesn't really entertain me... well, some of it does.

We'll get to that if you explore the entire genre!

Posted by Radagast on Jan-09-2005 03:36:

Tod Dockstader, now that guy made some cool IDM in the 60's(or late 50's). Here's a direct mp3 download of him giving a 22 minute interview in 1963, talking about music and messing with oscillators. Interesting stuff. Here's the site that the link to the mp3 is on. It contains more info on Dockstader.

Posted by websley on Jan-09-2005 03:56:

quote:
Originally posted by Radagast
Tod Dockstader, now that guy made some cool IDM in the 60's(or late 50's). Here's a direct mp3 download of him giving a 22 minute interview in 1963, talking about music and messing with oscillators. Interesting stuff. Here's the site that the link to the mp3 is on. It contains more info on Dockstader.

Man, those guys were like the avant-garde of EDM in that time, so fuck prog! It's actually the rising of industrial, not IDM. It's the age that people were exploring with all those new possibilities. Much Later, when Jungle got mixed up in these sounds and ways to make music, it evolved into IDM Then on the other hand, you got Drill 'n Bass (Actually much faster and more fucked up IDM)
Man! There are some awesome sounds in that interview!

Posted by beats and beeps on Jan-09-2005 04:03:

quote:
Originally posted by Radagast
Tod Dockstader, now that guy made some cool IDM in the 60's(or late 50's). Here's a direct mp3 download of him giving a 22 minute interview in 1963

ohhhhh god I cant thank you enough for that.

Not only was it interesting, but theres a few samples in there that are just begging to be sprinkled into a set.

Posted by Ory on Jan-09-2005 04:12:

Listening to it right now. Yeah, vocal samples from that interview would fit nicely into a track.

Tension... and release

Posted by 3xx3r7 on Jan-09-2005 04:50:

quote:
Originally posted by Cobalt
Give me condescending progheads over profane, irrational trance relativists any day.

That almost made me laugh.

Oh and LOL @ this thread. Childish debates continue:
"Wahhhh...my music is better than your music...wahhhh!!!"

Posted by Radagast on Jan-09-2005 06:19:

quote:
Originally posted by Nou
techno producing is totally on a lower level than trance, drum and bass, house, even fuckin hardcore.

I don't think so friend. Two words: Carl Craig

Two more words: Derrick May

Kenny Larkin
Mad Mike
Stacey Pullen

etc..

Posted by richard raiban on Jan-09-2005 07:50:

quote:
Originally posted by Ory
You suck.

Why is it that young people are easily entertained by simple pop music? Because they have bad taste. How come babies don't like russian caviar? Because they have bad taste. How come all most new listeners start out with listening to trance? Well... I could go on, but I'll just advise you to stop being so stuck on trance ('cus it sure seems like you are), it's not everything. The more experienced you are with something, the better you can judge its quality.

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