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| Originally posted by Trancer-X I love my country |
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| Originally posted by Zenchowdah fuck you. |
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| from Hunter S. Thompson You know, Bush, he�s really the evil one in here. Well, more than just him. We're the Nazis in this game, and I don't like it. I'm embarrassed and I'm pissed off. Yeah. I mean to say something and I think a lot of people in this country agree with me. A lot more never say anything. We'll see what happens to me if I get my head cut off in the next week by -- it's always unknown Bush [inaudible] strangers who commit suicide right afterward. No witnesses. They have a new kind of crime. MARY SUMA: Is that the CIA kind of crime? HUNTER S. THOMPSON: Oh, absolutely. Anyone who�s a successful criminal has got a crime. Absolutely no witnesses, no records. We can go on and on. I have to be restrained on the subject. |
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| Mick O�Regan: Unlike Walter Cronkite, Hunter S. Thompson is a stirrer, a deliberately provocative commentator and a freewheeling iconoclast, infamous for his relentless critique of the American government and military. He lives in the Rocky Mountains of Colorado and that�s where I found him at the end of a less than perfect telephone line, to ask his opinion of the state of the US media. Hunter S. Thompson: Well let�s see, �shamefully� is a word that comes to mind, but that�s not true in the case of The New York Times, The Washington Post, but overall the American journalism I think has been cowed and intimidated by the massive flat-sucking, this patriotic orgy that the White House keeps whipping up. You know if you criticise the President it�s unpatriotic and there�s something wrong with you, you may be a terrorist. Mick O�Regan: So in that sense, there�s not enough room for dissenting voices? Hunter S. Thompson: There�s plenty of room there�s not just enough people who are willing to take the risk. It�s sort of a herd mentality, a lemming-like mentality. If you don�t go with the flow you�re anti-American and therefore a suspect. And we�ve seen this before, these patriotic frenzies. It�s very convenient having an undeclared war that you can call a war and impose military tribunals and wartime security and we have these generals telling us that this war�s going to go on for a long, long time. Maybe not so much the generals now, the generals are a little afraid of Iraq, a little worried about it, but it�s the civilians in the White House, the gang of thieving, just lobbyists for the military industrial complex, who are running the White House, and to be against them is to be unpatriotic, then hell, call me a traitor. Mick O�Regan: Do you think that most of the American media, or say most of the influential American media has bought that patriotism line, and as a result are self-censoring themselves? Hunter S. Thompson: There you go, self-censorship, yes, that�s a very good point. Yes, I would say that. Now there are always exceptions to that but there�ve been damn few. Yeah. Mick O�Regan: So is it the White House laying down what they think is appropriate journalism, or is it the news media outlets deciding that they have to be patriotic, that they�re under some sort of undeclared duty at the moment, to somehow reflect the patriotism of the American public? Hunter S. Thompson: Well it goes a little deeper than that, because this Administration is well on the road to seizing power, and Tom Dashell, the Senate Democratic leader the other day accused Bush of trying to seize dictatorial powers. Now that was a big breakthrough, and I�m starting to sense that the tide may be turning against the President; we have to beat this bastard one way or another. And the American government is the greatest enemy of freedom around the world that I can think of. And we keep waving that flag, freedom, yes, these people are flag-suckers. |
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| Mick O�Regan: So at the moment people don�t want to hear that sort of criticism, they want people to rally round the flag and support the military? Hunter S. Thompson: I think that�s right, and I think the reason for that is that they don�t want to hear it because boy, that�s going to be a lot of agonising reappraisal, as they say. What reality is in this country and the world right now. Yes, popular opinion in this country has to be swung over to �the White House is wrong, these people are corporate thieves. They�ve turned the American Dream into a chamber of looting.� It would take a lot of adjustment, mentally. |
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| Mick O�Regan: You went on to say in that article, which I have in front of me, that �even ESPN was broadcasting war news. It was the worst disaster in the history of the United States.� Do you think that the event completely transformed the way in which Americans see themselves and their own vulnerability?� Hunter S. Thompson: No, the event by itself wouldn�t have done that. But it was the way the Administration was able to use that event. Even use it as a springboard for everything they wanted to do. And that might tell you something. I remember when I was writing that column you sort of wonder when something like that happens, Well who stands to benefit? Who had the opportunity and the motive? You just kind of look at these basic things, and I don�t know if I want to go into this on worldwide radio here, but � Mick O�Regan: You may as well. Hunter S. Thompson: All right. Well I saw that the US government was going to benefit, and the White House people, the republican administration to take the mind of the public off of the crashing economy. Now you want to keep in mind that every time a person named Bush gets into office, the nation goes into a drastic recession they call it. Mick O�Regan: It seems a very long bow to me, but are you sort of suggesting that this worked in the favour of the Bush Administration? Hunter S. Thompson: Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. And I have spent enough time on the inside of, well in the White House and you know, campaigns and I�ve known enough people who do these things, think this way, to know that the public version of the news or whatever event, is never really what happened. |
u need to watch pen and teller bullshit.
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| Originally posted by nchs09 u need to watch pen and teller bullshit. |
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| Originally posted by Trancer-X I'm sorry, but I truly fail to understand why you need to respond to every post with a nonsensical one-liner. Try reading some books and/or doing some research and maybe you could become more enlightened, or at the very least you'd be able to post a cognitive thought. |
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| Originally posted by nchs09 geez iv never tried to read books.... geez iv never thought of doing research. which by research im sure u mean finding a bunch of idiots who think this is all a conspiracy theory? i think ill pass on your so called "research" now if you dont understand my one liners.. well what can i say. looks like ur not doing the research. fucking look up the show and which ones they have done. gimp |
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| Originally posted by Trancer-X I was merely talking about trying to improve upon yourself by taking steps towards getting out of your brazenly ignorant, na�vely misconceived state. And as someone who signs his post "gimp" I'd expect that you'd want to at least try and break free from that wretched stigma. And BTW, I saw Penn & Teller (it's two N's, by the way) live about 10 years ago and they haven't gotten any better for me to even care about what shows they've been doing - as though that is something of great importance in this world. Anyway, have fun in your phony reality, Pollyanna. Now please post something at least remotely relevant to the original thread title or just STFU. |
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| Originally posted by jrbuddha If i post... |
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| Originally posted by Trancer-X The truth was the first casualty of our "War on Terra." |
Trancer-X i hope your not this guy
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| Originally posted by metalgearsolid whats this war on terra?? |
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| Originally posted by metalgearsolid Trancer-X i hope your not this guy |
Hmmm a lot of discussion about physics and engineering seems to be being thrown back and forth, and without getting into any specific arguments (my days of spamming TA with arguments and timely responses have ended ) I found that this was an excellent popular mechanic article with sound references/explanations:
http://www.popularmechanics.com/sci...html?page=1&c=y
Certain arguments have always vexed me (I was obssessed with that stupid whatreallyhappened website for a while) and as much research as I did, a few questions were left unanswered (seismic spikes) which this article covered. Eh, take it as you will.
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| Originally posted by occrider Hmmm a lot of discussion about physics and engineering seems to be being thrown back and forth, and without getting into any specific arguments (my days of spamming TA with arguments and timely responses have ended ) I found that this was an excellent popular mechanic article with sound references/explanations:http://www.popularmechanics.com/sci...html?page=1&c=y |
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| Originally posted by Trancer-X Yeah, that article was very helpful in regards to the coverup. |
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| Originally posted by Trancer-X Why would you hope that, because he's not physically attractive? |
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| Originally posted by metalgearsolid do you really think the gov would bother to do that? |
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| Originally posted by occrider Of course . And sites like whatreallyhappened aren't trying to mislead the public by selectively editing what information they do and do not post if it doesn't coincide with their agenda. |
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| Originally posted by Trancer-X You greatly underestimate the power of corruption. http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=92662&page=1 |
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| Originally posted by {b.s.e.} kennedy died shortly thereafter. it's worrisome, how many people don't bother to look into their gov's shady, shady past. |
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| Originally posted by metalgearsolid you can look at what the gov did with all the witnesses who said there was a shooter at the grassy knolls. Like all of them died of strange deaths and what is even stranger is that theres this picture i cant find it but jackie kenn is crying and there are a bunch of gov officials there and they all have this look on their face like boy i hope we don't get caught. Whats even more strange is that theres this guy with black glasses that are thick and he is brown and skinny he looks just like my dads brother back in the time. Trancer-X you could look for this picture...right?? |
no she has that dress on with that hat and theres a bunch of GUYS with looks on thier faces. Thats the one
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| Originally posted by metalgearsolid no she has that dress on with that hat and theres a bunch of GUYS with looks on thier faces. Thats the one |
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| Police State USA Last week�s announcement that the terrorist threat warning level has been raised in parts of New York, New Jersey, and Washington, D.C. has led to dramatic and unprecedented restrictions on the movements of citizens. Americans wishing to visit the U.S. Capitol must, for example, pass through several checkpoints and submit to police inspection of their cars and persons. Many Americans support the new security measures because they claim to feel safer when the government issues terror alerts and fills the streets with militarized police forces. As one tourist interviewed this week said, �It makes me feel comfortable to know that everything is being checked.� It is ironic that tourists coming to Washington to celebrate the freedoms embodied in the Declaration of Independence are so eager to give up those freedoms with no questions asked. Freedom is not defined by safety. Freedom is defined by the ability of citizens to live without government interference. Government cannot create a world without risks, nor would we really wish to live in such a fictional place. Only a totalitarian society would even claim absolute safety as a worthy ideal, because it would require total state control over its citizens� lives. This doesn�t stop governments, including our own, from seeking more control over and intrusion into our lives. As one Member of Congress stated to the press last week, �people who don�t want to be searched don�t need to come on Capitol grounds.� What an insult! The Capitol belongs to the American people who pay for it, not to Congress or the police. It is worth noting that the government rushes first to protect itself, devoting enormous resources to make places like the Capitol grounds safe, while just beyond lies one of the most dangerous neighborhoods in the nation. What makes Congress more worthy of protection from terrorists than ordinary citizens? To understand the nature of our domestic response to the September 11th, 2001 attacks, we must understand the nature of government. Government naturally expands, and any crises- whether real or manufactured- serve to justify more and more government power over our lives. Bureaucrats have used the tragedy of 9-11 as an excuse to seize police powers sought for decades, such as warrantless searches, internet monitoring, and access to bank records. It should be no surprise that the recently released report of the 9-11 Commission has but one central recommendation: bigger government and more spending at home and abroad. Every new security measure represents another failure of the once-courageous American spirit. The more we change our lives, the more we obsess about terrorism, the more the terrorists have won. As commentator Lew Rockwell of the Ludwig von Mises Institute explains, terrorists in effect have been elevated by our response to 9-11: �They are running the country. They determine our civic life. They shape our private life. They decide how public resources are spent. They may dictate who gets to be the next president. It should be obvious that the government doesn�t object. Not at all. The government benefits, by getting ever more reason for ever more money and power.� Every generation must resist the temptation to believe that it lives in the most dangerous time in American history. The threat of Islamic terrorism is real, but it is not the greatest danger ever faced by our nation. This is not to dismiss the threat of terrorism, but rather to put it in perspective. Those who seek to whip the nation into a frenzy of fear do a disservice to a country that expelled the British, fought two world wars, and stared down the Soviet empire. Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long. http://www.house.gov/paul/tst/tst2004/tst080904.htm |
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