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Originally posted by rabbitjoker This "don't bash Americans" thread has turned into a bunch of incorrect and unpositive stereotypes about Americans being reinforced. ha. ha. ha.

And the sad part is that they're reinforced by Americans. Hating your own success is just so zen, isn't it?

Although I grew up in NYC, I love being exposed to the Canadian influence here in Canada Jr, known as Buffalo. I love having that different perspective that the Canadian media provides, such as the CBC. As soon as something big happens (usually involving the US, since they seem to be in the middle of most global news stories), I turn to the CBC, CFTO, and any other Canadian station to see how they're reporting the news.

I guess as an American, then, I can bash my fellow countrymen. Every time I see a bumper sticker or one of those stupid ribbon magnets which say something to the like of "Proud to be an American", I become so infuriated. There are some ideas associated with being "American" which can be positive, but the most visible representation of our country are a group of gluttonous, war-mongering slack-jawed yee haw sheep who push forward into things impulsively.

But, just my observation. Oh, yes. And this.

OK. That Bill Cosby thing is becoming quite annoying, so I'll end this here.

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Originally posted by Jayx1 lots of TAs american bash

I do not bash americans - never have: they rawk! It is not the "americans" but their whole structure of government that bothers me - as do I, with ours. However, that is such a general statement and to get into specifics it would take far too much time and way too much energy to make this worth discussing...

Dallas, u should be SHOT for posting that link. U can't view or reply to this page without hearing the same damn line repeated over & over by Bill Cosby, and it has WHAT to do with this topic?

Please delete.

economics fucks evrything up!!!

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Originally posted by brainsoup Although I grew up in NYC, I love being exposed to the Canadian influence here in Canada ...I guess as an American, then, I can bash my fellow countrymen. Every time I see a bumper sticker or one of those stupid ribbon magnets which say something to the like of "Proud to be an American", I become so infuriated. There are some ideas associated with being "American" which can be positive...

Hey that sticker speaks volumes about unity. I suppose the Canadian version of it is "I am Canadian"

What confuses me is that I'm always wondering....is there real unity amongst Canadians?

Oh but the positives in NYC are great. NYC peeps have it going...it's just different here.





P.S. that Bill Cosby link is gettin to be annoying

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Originally posted by dallastar

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Beats & Beeps posted this shit in the COR...so weird, but funny!

Man this thread is so polluted now by that link...EJECT EJECT EJECT!!

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Originally posted by zookeeper Man this thread is so polluted now by that link...EJECT EJECT EJECT!!

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Originally posted by zookeeper Canadians are soooo funny

just keep posting until it falls to another page.

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Originally posted by StereoPrincess just keep posting until it falls to another page.

Ok!

+1





(BTW pain killers are da best.)

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Originally posted by zookeeper Speaking of the Christain right: I used to design and install sound systems for a living, some of the churches that I worked in had bigger systems than the clubs in town. I always wondered where was all this money coming from. Money and power, a bad combination with political aspirations, church dictating to state ie: "Faith Based Initiatives" Danger! Danger! OH!!! and then when I would hand my bill to the church officials, they would look at me and say "...That's a lot of money...but this is for God, are you not a believer?" Theocracy in the USA...maybe not that far fetched. What say you...Canadian brothers?

I would have said "In God I trust, but you pay cash"

LOL

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Originally posted by Jayx1 I would have said "In God I trust, but you pay cash" LOL

I dont like religion in politics but on the same token i hate political correctness as well. Disallowing religious symbold during holidays for example is where i think they take seperation too far. True that many of our holidays have roots in christianity but they have become part of our national heritage whether newcomers like it or not. I commend the US for having the guts to defend their traditions even if it does go a little too far toward the other end at times. Disallowing christmas and easter in schools and at city hall is just plain stupid.

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Originally posted by zookeeper Speaking of the Christain right: I used to design and install sound systems for a living, some of the churches that I worked in had bigger systems than the clubs in town. I always wondered where was all this money coming from. Money and power, a bad combination with political aspirations, church dictating to state ie: "Faith Based Initiatives" Danger! Danger! OH!!! and then when I would hand my bill to the church officials, they would look at me and say "...That's a lot of money...but this is for God, are you not a believer?" Theocracy in the USA...maybe not that far fetched. What say you...Canadian brothers?

I would have bumped up the bill by 10% just because they had the nerve to say that

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Originally posted by Jayx1 I dont like religion in politics but on the same token i hate political correctness as well. Disallowing religious symbold during holidays for example is where i think they take seperation too far. True that many of our holidays have roots in christianity but they have become part of our national heritage whether newcomers like it or not. I commend the US for having the guts to defend their traditions even if it does go a little too far toward the other end at times. Disallowing christmas and easter in schools and at city hall is just plain stupid.

Interestingly enough these traditions weren't very important to the us until the late 1940s. Prior to that there was a very strong seperation between church and state in the US. Protecting religion really only became an issue in the US at the dawn of the cold war (same time that "In God We Trust" was added to the bills). Since the USSR outlawed religious practice the US thought that it should take the exact opposite stance and embrace it as much as possible.

Also of note is that Christian holidays have their roots in the Jewish, Olympian and Roman holidays. Christmas is a great example, prior to Christianity becomeing the offical religion of the Roman Empire it was celebrated in September. Unfortunately, the Romans had no festivals in September but their most important festival did take place in December (at the solstice). They moved Christmas to replace that festival. Of course Easter is the same time as passover. Most of the saint's days also fit with Roman celebrations.

None of what I have said really has anything to do with the subject at hand but I wanted to put it out there for everyone none the less.

Nice, pure flamebait!

But this is all moot as the United States of America doesn't technically exist after the Queen revoked their independence!


To the citizens of the United States of America,

In the light of your failure to elect a suitable President of the USA and thus to govern yourselves, we hereby give notice of the revocation of your independence, effective today. Her Sovereign Majesty Queen Elizabeth II will resume monarchical duties over all states, commonwealths and other territories. Except Utah, which she does not fancy. Your new prime minister (The Right Honourable Tony Blair, MP for the 97.85% of you who have until now been unaware that there is a world outside your borders) will appoint a minister for America without the need for further elections. Congress and the Senate will be disbanded.

A questionnaire will be circulated next year to determine whether any of you noticed. To aid in the transition to a British Crown Dependency, the following rules are introduced with immediate effect:

1. You should look up revocation in the Oxford English Dictionary. Then look up aluminium. Check the pronunciation guide. You will be amazed at just how wrongly you have been pronouncing it. The letter U will be reinstated in words such as favour and neighbour; skipping the letter U is nothing more than laziness on your part. Likewise, you will learn to spell doughnut without skipping half the letters. You will end your love affair with the letter Z (pronounced zed not zee) and the suffix ize will be replaced by the suffix ise. You will learn that the suffix burgh is pronounced burra (e.g. Edinburgh). You are welcome to respell Pittsburgh as Pittsberg if you can't cope with correct pronunciation. Generally, you should raise your vocabulary to acceptable levels. Look up vocabulary. Using the same twenty seven words interspersed with filler noises such as like and you know is an unacceptable and inefficient form of communication. Look up interspersed. There will be no more bleeps in the Jerry Springer show. If you're not old enough to cope with bad language, then you shouldn't have chat shows. When you learn to develop your vocabulary then you won't have to use bad language as often.

2. There is no such thing as US English. We will let Microsoft know on your behalf. The Microsoft spell-checker will be adjusted to take account of the reinstated letter u and the elimination of -ize.

3. You should learn to distinguish between the English and Australian accents. It really isn't that hard. English accents are not limited to Cockney, upper-class twit, or Mancunian (Daphne in Frasier). You will also have to learn how to understand regional accents - Scottish dramas such as Taggart will no longer be broadcast with subtitles. While we're talking about regions, you must learn that there is no such place as Devonshire in England. The name of the county is Devon. If you persist in calling it Devonshire, all American States will become shires (e.g. Texasshire, Floridashire, Louisianashire).

4. Hollywood will be required to occasionally cast English actors as the good guys. Hollywood will be required to cast English actors to play English characters. British sit-coms such as Men Behaving Badly or Red Dwarf will not be re-cast and watered down for a wishy-washy American audience who can't cope with the humour of occasional political incorrectness.

5. You should relearn your original national anthem, God Save The Queen, but only after fully carrying out task 1. We would not want you to get confused and give up half way through.

6. You should stop playing American football. There is only one kind of football. What you refer to as American football is not a very good game. The 2.15% of you who are aware that there is a world outside your borders may have noticed that no one else plays American football. You will no longer be allowed to play it, and should instead play proper football. Initially, it would be best if you played with the girls. It is a difficult game. Those of you brave enough will, in time, be allowed to play rugby (which is similar to American football but does not involve stopping for a rest every twenty seconds or wearing full Kevlar body armour like nancies). We are hoping to get together at least a US rugby sevens side by 2005. You should stop playing baseball. It is not reasonable to host an event called the World Series for a game which is not played outside of America. Since only 2.15% of you are aware that there is a world beyond your borders, your error is understandable. Instead of baseball, you will be allowed to play a girls game called Rounders which is baseball without fancy team strip, oversized gloves, collector cards or hotdogs.

7. You should declare war on Quebec and France, using nuclear weapons if they give you any merde. (Merde is French for Shit.) The 97.85% of you who were not aware that there is a world outside your borders should count yourselves lucky. The Russians have never been the bad guys. You will no longer be allowed to own or carry guns. You will no longer be allowed to own or carry anything more dangerous in public than a vegetable peeler. Because we don't believe you are sensible enough to handle potentially dangerous items, you will require a permit if you wish to carry a vegetable peeler in public.

8. July 4th is no longer a public holiday. November 2 nd will be a new national holiday, but only in England. It will be called Indecisive Day.

9. All American cars are hereby banned. They are crap and it is for your own good. When we show you German cars, you will understand what we mean. All road intersections will be replaced with roundabouts. You will start driving on the left with immediate effect. At the same time, you will go metric with immediate effect and without the benefit of conversion tables. Roundabouts and metrication will help you understand the British sense of humour.

10. You will learn to make real chips. Those things you call French fries are not real chips. Fries aren't even French, they are Belgian though 97.85% of you (including the guy who discovered fries while in Europe) are not aware of a country called Belgium. Those things you insist on calling potato chips are properly called crisps. Real chips are thick cut and fried in animal fat. The traditional accompaniment to chips is beer, which should be served warm and flat. Waitresses will be trained to be more aggressive with customers.

11. As a sign of penance, 5 grams of sea salt per cup will be added to all tea made within the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, this quantity to be doubled for tea made within the city of Boston itself.

12. The cold tasteless stuff you insist on calling beer is not actually beer at all, it is lager. From November 1st, only proper British Bitter will be referred to as beer, and European brews of known and accepted provenance will be referred to as Lager. The substances formerly known as American Beer will henceforth be referred to as Near-Frozen Gnat's Urine, with the exception of the product of the American Budweiser Company, whose product will be referred to as Weak Near-Frozen Gnat's Urine. This will allow true Budweiser (as manufactured for the last 1000 years in Pilsen, Czech Republic) to be sold without risk of confusion.

13. From December 1st, the UK will harmonise petrol (or Gasoline, as you will be permitted to keep calling it until April 1st, 2005) prices with the former USA. The UK will harmonise its prices to those of the former USA and the former USA will, in return, adopt UK petrol prices (roughly $6/US gallon - get used to it).

14. You will learn to resolve personal issues without using guns, lawyers, or therapists. The fact that you need so many lawyers and therapists shows that you're not adult enough to be independent. Guns should be handled only by adults. If you're not adult enough to sort things out without suing someone or speaking to a therapist, then you're not grown up enough to handle a gun.

15. Please tell us who killed JFK. It's been driving us crazy.

Tax collectors from Her Majesty's Government will be with you shortly to ensure the acquisition of all revenues due (backdated to 1776).

Thank you for your cooperation.

Re: Re: Re: Re: Ripping on Americans. A message to Canadians

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Originally posted by karim I was not labelling the entire country, I was labelling the predominantly right winged bible belt states. The whole point of the thread is that the USA isn't only about that demographic. When Canadians bad mouth americans, they usually talk about what these states do. Crazy texan gunlaws are a big thing that too many canadians see as being typically american. What I'm trying to argue is that the stereotyping that many canadians cast on americans is really not what the states are all about. That in many ways, we are no better. Karim

You are right my dear! Funny how us Nourth-easterners have typically similar views as Canadians do. I get bashed on a bit with my Toronto friends but it is all in good fun because they know that they are speaking of mostly conservative, reliogious, etc, people. I have had great friendships with my lil canucks!

Also, Karim, I just got acceopted into NYU yesterday (YEY!!!!)for Gradaute school....And got an $8,000 scholarship (YEY!)....and EVEN with the scholarship, including living expenses to live in downtown Manhattan will equal over $50,000 USD a year.....well shit someone better hand be either one of those guns or a few canadian beers cuz thats a lotta moola!!!

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Originally posted by Moral Hazard Interestingly enough these traditions weren't very important to the us until the late 1940s. Prior to that there was a very strong seperation between church and state in the US. Protecting religion really only became an issue in the US at the dawn of the cold war (same time that "In God We Trust" was added to the bills). Since the USSR outlawed religious practice the US thought that it should take the exact opposite stance and embrace it as much as possible.

But Christmas and Easter were always a very important part of public life until very recently. And to suddenly say it's not OK is very offensive.

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Originally posted by yankeeBaby Also, Karim, I just got acceopted into NYU yesterday (YEY!!!!)for Gradaute school....And got an $8,000 scholarship (YEY!)....and EVEN with the scholarship, including living expenses to live in downtown Manhattan will equal over $50,000 USD a year.....well shit someone better hand be either one of those guns or a few canadian beers cuz thats a lotta moola!!!

Congratulations on the acceptance!!! That's great news. But look at the bright side aside from the cost, you'll be living in MANHATTAN!!! Fuck, if only I could live in manhattan......


Karim

Congrats on NYU, but do save your pennies and always keep a spare subway tolken with you at all times, it can be a long walk when you have drank all your cash.

After about a month you will find the "cheaper" places and services

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Originally posted by Jayx1 But Christmas and Easter were always a very important part of public life until very recently. And to suddenly say it's not OK is very offensive.

Come on now, no one is saying that Christmas or Easter should not be celebrated. I don't think I've ever heard talk of removing either Christmas or Good Friday from the statutory holiday lists.

Myself, I absolutely agree that public schools should not hold celebrations for Christmas and Easter. Public schools, as a part of the state, should be wholey secular in all regards. If you want your child to celebrate Christmas at school then send them to a denomonational private school. Conversely, if it is not acceptable that Christmas and Easter not be celebrated in public school then we should celebrate the holidays of all religions present in Canada... why not celebrate Yom Kippur, Ramadan (spelling?), the solstices, passover, the festival of Jupiter, The Feast of Lugh, etc.
Additionally, there should be no celebration of such holidays in the workplace unless you work for an organization that is clearly identified as a religious organization. I don't think this way because I am worried that someone may be offended (most people believe that I am the most offencive person they know) but rather to prevent people from feeling out of place or preasured to adopt the beliefs of the majority. If your entire workplace is celebrating Christmas and you abstain because you do not believe that Jesus is the massia then you set yourself apart from everyone else. An employer should never create such a situation.

Remember, the most important task of any state in the maintenance of order is to protect the rights of the minority. If the rights of the minority are not protected then mob rule will take hold.

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Originally posted by Moral Hazard Come on now, no one is saying that Christmas or Easter should not be celebrated. I don't think I've ever heard talk of removing either Christmas or Good Friday from the statutory holiday lists. Myself, I absolutely agree that public schools should not hold celebrations for Christmas and Easter. Public schools, as a part of the state, should be wholey secular in all regards. If you want your child to celebrate Christmas at school then send them to a denomonational private school....

Public school celebrates Christmas and Easter?
No way.

Well private schools do celebrate these but I don't think kids went to it bc of the religious preference (lots of rich Arabs and chinese there too). Most went to private bc the education level was much better.

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