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Posted by eLe_vatE on May-05-2005 17:21:

ooooooo can't wait for the coverage to start later hehe, I'm pathetically excited about it.
I voted by post last week in my home constituency of Rushcliffe (basically South Nottinghamshire), since Manchester Central (where my uni halls are) is probably one of the safest Labour seat in the country so there seemed no point(68% of the vote in 2001, next was LD with 15%!!).
It was between Lid Dems and Conservatives for me, since socialism goes against alot of my ideas ruling Labour out. I thought that Id rather my parents were �4 a week better off as apposed to �8 a week worse off, so I voted Conservative (official stats from some think tank that worked this out from the partys' tax plans - published in The Times (I think) last week sometime) - I dont like the idea of my parents suffering finantially for not being fucking spongers. As if working families with children are not hit hard enough by the Labour Govt., the Lib Dems would turn the screw even more, I find that shocking to be perfectly honest.
It's a shame because the Lib Dems have a few good ideas, Im definitely with them on the environment, which is why Im pleased with my vote, because my MP is Kenneth Clarke (CON), who is a pretty liberal guy, a liberal guy with considerable influence as the ex-chancellor (92-97), sometimes I really wonder why hes in the conservative party hehe, so for me the vote is close to ideal, as Id probably feel more uneasy voting for a staunch right wing conservative.


Posted by svens_bath on May-05-2005 17:44:

quote:
Originally posted by George Smiley
Assuming there is a terrorist threat


there definitely is a terrorist 'threat'. how real it is debateable. but you can radically reduce this with the right foreign policy.


Posted by George Smiley on May-05-2005 17:44:

quote:
Originally posted by eLe_vatE
ooooooo can't wait for the coverage to start later hehe, I'm pathetically excited about it.
I voted by post last week in my home constituency of Rushcliffe (basically South Nottinghamshire), since Manchester Central (where my uni halls are) is probably one of the safest Labour seat in the country so there seemed no point(68% of the vote in 2001, next was LD with 15%!!).
It was between Lid Dems and Conservatives for me, since socialism goes against alot of my ideas ruling Labour out. I thought that Id rather my parents were �4 a week better off as apposed to �8 a week worse off, so I voted Conservative (official stats from some think tank that worked this out from the partys' tax plans - published in The Times (I think) last week sometime) - I dont like the idea of my parents suffering finantially for not being fucking spongers. As if working families with children are not hit hard enough by the Labour Govt., the Lib Dems would turn the screw even more, I find that shocking to be perfectly honest.
It's a shame because the Lib Dems have a few good ideas, Im definitely with them on the environment, which is why Im pleased with my vote, because my MP is Kenneth Clarke (CON), who is a pretty liberal guy, a liberal guy with considerable influence as the ex-chancellor (92-97), sometimes I really wonder why hes in the conservative party hehe, so for me the vote is close to ideal, as Id probably feel more uneasy voting for a staunch right wing conservative.

Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!! Your not supposed to admit voting Tory!


Posted by svens_bath on May-05-2005 17:48:

quote:
Originally posted by eLe_vatE
It was between Lid Dems and Conservatives for me, since socialism goes against alot of my ideas ruling Labour out. I thought that Id rather my parents were �4 a week better off as apposed to �8 a week worse off, so I voted Conservative (official stats from some think tank that worked this out from the partys' tax plans - published in The Times (I think) last week sometime) - I dont like the idea of my parents suffering finantially for not being fucking spongers. As if working families with children are not hit hard enough by the Labour Govt., the Lib Dems would turn the screw even more, I find that shocking to be perfectly honest.


the lib dems have pleged to give increased maternity pay to working families..hows that making it worse for them?


Posted by Ian on May-05-2005 18:06:

vote or play football

vote or play football


football wins


Posted by Jackson on May-05-2005 19:47:

Just got back from voting...i was confused when they gave me two bits of paper, i didnt know which was local and which was national (im a voting virgin) so i just voted Lib Dem on both. Stupid Me!


Posted by eLe_vatE on May-05-2005 20:43:

quote:
Originally posted by Jackson
Just got back from voting...i was confused when they gave me two bits of paper, i didnt know which was local and which was national (im a voting virgin) so i just voted Lib Dem on both. Stupid Me!

hehe, not as bad as my sister, she thought that the general election sheet just had a list of the parties, not a list of candidates lol, so she thought the general election sheet was the local one, and put a cross by Kenneth Clarke's name because she's heard of him, fortunately for her, her housemate pointed out the error in her ways (since she wanted to vote lib dem for the general).


Posted by donegalredneck on May-06-2005 01:21:

quote:
Originally posted by zig
The conservatives had a history of putting weak Northern Ireland [sic] secetarys in place as a type of retirement home....although a poisened chalice at the same time....Blair stuck Mo Mowlen in place and it really took off from there...she was there to do business and she did so with the backing of Blair and his government....Blair will definatly go down in history in Ireland as the one who genuinely kicked off the peace process to bring about a lasting resolution for the first time...and the tories can kiss my ass...W**kers


I think there'll always be a stigma attached to a conservative government from an Irish perspective. Throughout the last century they've always strongly sided with unionism in Ireland. For most Irish people Thatcher is the most hated woman ever, and she isn't that long gone. Although most of us here don't want the Brits poking their noses in our business, most would view a labour government the lesser of two evils.


Posted by ShadoWolf on May-06-2005 05:52:

Thumbs down

Good God, George Galloway got elected......quick, someone hang that traitorous scumbag before he's sworn in.


Posted by Ian on May-06-2005 08:12:

quote:
Originally posted by ShadoWolf
Good God, George Galloway got elected......quick, someone hang that traitorous scumbag before he's sworn in.


he's a cunt. Simply put. Thankfully blair has retained (Howard is just inept and Kennedy hasn't got enough appeal to the older voters who've only ever known red vs blue)


Posted by Ian on May-06-2005 08:13:

ahh it's just beren said on tv

that area is over 40% muslim, galloway fought against the war, so it's a pretty simple one


Posted by DjDeb on May-06-2005 08:17:

Smiling Frog

Without a doubt Labour will get elected again. It is so obvious. Even though people go on about how they shouldn't be elected they always seem to prve people wrong!


Posted by fastmp3 on May-06-2005 12:15:

324 seats needed to win

LAB 353
CON 197
LD 62

624 of 646 seats declared


Posted by Ian on May-06-2005 12:18:

quote:
Originally posted by fastmp3
324 seats needed to win

LAB 353
CON 197
LD 62

624 of 646 seats declared


still gonna flush over you


Posted by donegalredneck on May-06-2005 20:20:

These are (pretty much) the Westminster results for British occupied Ireland:

(SDLP: Social Democratic and Labour Party, PSF: Provisional Sinn F�in, UUP: Ulster Unionist Party, DUP: Democratic Unionist Party, [abstentionist]: refuses to take seat in parliament)

East Belfast : Peter Robinson (DUP) No change
South Belfast : Alasdair McDonell (SDLP) Formerly UUP seat
West Belfast : Gerry Adams (PSF) No change [abstentionist]
North Belfast: Nigel Dodds (DUP) No change

North Antrim :Ian Paisley (DUP) No change
East Antrim : Sammy Wilson (DUP) Formerly UUP seat
South Antrim : Rev William McCrea (DUP) Formerly UUP seat
Lagan Valley : Jeffery Donaldson (DUP) Same MP, formerly a member of UUP
Foyle : Mark Durkan (SDLP) No change party wise - different MP
Fermanagh South Tyrone : Michelle Gildernew (PSF) No change [abstentionist]
West Tyrone: Pat Doherty (PSF) No change [abstentionist]
Newry and Armagh: Connor Murphy (PSF) Formerly SDLP seat [abstentionist]
South Down: Eddie McGrady (SDLP) No change
North Down: Sylvia Hermon (UUP) No change
Upper Bann: David Simpson (DUP) Formerly UUP seat
Mid Ulster: Martin McGuinness (PSF) No change [abstentionist]
East Derry: Gregory Campbell (DUP) No change
Strangford: Iris Robinson (DUP) No change


Posted by George Smiley on May-06-2005 20:25:

quote:
Originally posted by donegalredneck
These are (pretty much) the Westminster results for British occupied Ireland:

(SDLP: Social Democratic and Labour Party, PSF: Provisional Sinn F�in, UUP: Ulster Unionist Party, DUP: Democratic Unionist Party, [abstentionist]: refuses to take seat in parliament)

East Belfast : Peter Robinson (DUP) No change
South Belfast : Alasdair McDonell (SDLP) Formerly UUP seat
West Belfast : Gerry Adams (PSF) No change [abstentionist]
North Belfast: Nigel Dodds (DUP) No change

North Antrim :Ian Paisley (DUP) No change
East Antrim : Sammy Wilson (DUP) Formerly UUP seat
South Antrim : Rev William McCrea (DUP) Formerly UUP seat
Lagan Valley : Jeffery Donaldson (DUP) Same MP, formerly a member of UUP
Foyle : Mark Durkan (SDLP) No change party wise - different MP
Fermanagh South Tyrone : Michelle Gildernew (PSF) No change [abstentionist]
West Tyrone: Pat Doherty (PSF) No change [abstentionist]
Newry and Armagh: Connor Murphy (PSF) Formerly SDLP seat [abstentionist]
South Down: Eddie McGrady (SDLP) No change
North Down: Sylvia Hermon (UUP) No change
Upper Bann: David Simpson (DUP) Formerly UUP seat
Mid Ulster: Martin McGuinness (PSF) No change [abstentionist]
East Derry: Gregory Campbell (DUP) No change
Strangford: Iris Robinson (DUP) No change

Who cares about Northern Ireland?!

(Anyway, why is it "occupied" when more than half the MPs are unionists?! )


Posted by zig on May-07-2005 23:18:

quote:
Originally posted by donegalredneck
These are (pretty much) the Westminster results for British occupied Ireland:

(SDLP: Social Democratic and Labour Party, PSF: Provisional Sinn F�in, UUP: Ulster Unionist Party, DUP: Democratic Unionist Party, [abstentionist]: refuses to take seat in parliament)

East Belfast : Peter Robinson (DUP) No change
South Belfast : Alasdair McDonell (SDLP) Formerly UUP seat
West Belfast : Gerry Adams (PSF) No change [abstentionist]
North Belfast: Nigel Dodds (DUP) No change

North Antrim :Ian Paisley (DUP) No change
East Antrim : Sammy Wilson (DUP) Formerly UUP seat
South Antrim : Rev William McCrea (DUP) Formerly UUP seat
Lagan Valley : Jeffery Donaldson (DUP) Same MP, formerly a member of UUP
Foyle : Mark Durkan (SDLP) No change party wise - different MP
Fermanagh South Tyrone : Michelle Gildernew (PSF) No change [abstentionist]
West Tyrone: Pat Doherty (PSF) No change [abstentionist]
Newry and Armagh: Connor Murphy (PSF) Formerly SDLP seat [abstentionist]
South Down: Eddie McGrady (SDLP) No change
North Down: Sylvia Hermon (UUP) No change
Upper Bann: David Simpson (DUP) Formerly UUP seat
Mid Ulster: Martin McGuinness (PSF) No change [abstentionist]
East Derry: Gregory Campbell (DUP) No change
Strangford: Iris Robinson (DUP) No change


I look through this list and tbh it makes me depressed....i know things are changeing for the better in Northern Ireland, but looking at that list you would never know it, each and everyone a hardliner....looks like the hard road ahead politically for Northern Ireland for the foreseeable future.......

EDIT: ok there are 3 SDLP candidates elected...the rest are seriously hardline.......


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