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Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Apr-13-2005 00:03:

quote:
Originally posted by queen_vee
So very many tracks sound like they could have been made by any joe bloggs with the right program these days. The standard layers, you know? And kick it with a big synth derived from the massive anthems produced from 98/99.

Maybe vocals help people appreciate that someone at least had to write lyrics and a melody, as opposed to playing on the computer??

um yeah. coz producing QUALITY trance tunes is just a piece of cake. and the lyrics in trance songs are just SO complicated, deep and meaningful

Posted by 00soups00 on Apr-13-2005 00:07:

quote:
Originally posted by queen_vee
Ascension- For A Lifetime, whatever mix I've heard is seriously moving

Rui Da Silva- Touch Me, love it

are u trying to add strength to the 'for' vocals in tracks or what dude.

those tracks are horrid!!!!

infact most vocal tunes released through 'xtravaganza' are complete rubbish

Posted by tathi on Apr-13-2005 00:24:

Bent � As You Fall (Micah Mix)

last song on cd 2 of fortiers balance - nice

Posted by jizza on Apr-13-2005 00:25:

quote:
Originally posted by 00soups00
infact most vocal tunes released through 'xtravaganza' are complete rubbish

ggf tomski love will come is bewtiful.

Posted by Light The Fuse on Apr-13-2005 00:34:

quote:
Originally posted by 00soups00

those tracks are horrid!!!!

OMGZ Rui Da Silva - Touch me isnt horrible...heard it on the radio the other day...got me going.

Posted by 00soups00 on Apr-13-2005 00:57:

quote:
Originally posted by Light The Fuse
OMGZ Rui Da Silva - Touch me isnt horrible...heard it on the radio the other day...got me going.

nice sig.. luvvaboy!!!

Posted by Light The Fuse on Apr-13-2005 01:37:

ohh one day I dreeeeem to match your studlyness soupy...

Posted by 00soups00 on Apr-13-2005 01:45:

quote:
Originally posted by Light The Fuse
ohh one day I dreeeeem to match your studlyness soupy...

tis good to have the truth on your side.. but better for it to be on your cock.. eh jules?

Posted by Light The Fuse on Apr-13-2005 01:47:

its a perk.

its also good for my heart. awwwwww
aww nah shes a qt.

Posted by 00soups00 on Apr-13-2005 01:51:

quote:
Originally posted by Light The Fuse
its a perk.

its also good for my heart. awwwwww
aww nah shes a qt.

you're a regular old Shakespeare now mr PLees

Posted by queen_vee on Apr-13-2005 01:55:

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
um yeah. coz producing QUALITY trance tunes is just a piece of cake. and the lyrics in trance songs are just SO complicated, deep and meaningful

hey! never said trance lyrics were deep and meaningful, mainly they just sound sweet. BUT, if someone is singing, there's gotta be a tune someone has written, yes? a decent tune is very hard to create.

pho mo, if you've got enough party tricks on your computer you don't have to write a melody cos there's so many layers and it's all stored there for you, ready to add at whatever minute mark your little heart so desires. if you can't write a melody too well on your keyboard then synth it up and it'll sound alright. i've a friend with a sensational program for writing tracks and the bloody computer does the entire thing for you. you could be a complete moron when it came to 'composing' tracks and it would still sound ok! actually made me go off trance for quite a while.

and soups- i stand by song choices! i honestly believe the tracks i like are the most beautiful/clever/fun whatever in the world... and that would be why i like them uh huh?!

Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Apr-13-2005 02:04:

quote:
Originally posted by queen_vee
hey! never said trance lyrics were deep and meaningful, mainly they just sound sweet. BUT, if someone is singing, there's gotta be a tune someone has written, yes? a decent tune is very hard to create.

vocals dont necessarily add any more melody to a song than is already there. in fact the vocals are just another layer of the song.

quote:
Originally posted by queen_vee

pho mo, if you've got enough party tricks on your computer you don't have to write a melody cos there's so many layers and it's all stored there for you, ready to add at whatever minute mark your little heart so desires. if you can't write a melody too well on your keyboard then synth it up and it'll sound alright. i've a friend with a sensational program for writing tracks and the bloody computer does the entire thing for you. you could be a complete moron when it came to 'composing' tracks and it would still sound ok! actually made me go off trance for quite a while.

um dude, youre lecturing the guy who won the recent Oz production competition, methinks he knows a lot more about production of quality trance tunes than youre giving him credit for. and theres no way in hell a computer is ever going to write better music than a talented musician. im thinking perhaps your tastes are a lil easier to fulfill if you think \"synthing\" up a bad melody makes it sound \"alright\".

Posted by Light The Fuse on Apr-13-2005 02:18:

quote:
Originally posted by 00soups00
you're a regular old Shakespeare now mr PLees

i always was.

anywho ya vocal trance...

Posted by Nyquist_Theorem on Apr-13-2005 03:54:

quote:
Originally posted by queen_vee
pho mo, if you've got enough party tricks on your computer you don't have to write a melody cos there's so many layers and it's all stored there for you, ready to add at whatever minute mark your little heart so desires. if you can't write a melody too well on your keyboard then synth it up and it'll sound alright. i've a friend with a sensational program for writing tracks and the bloody computer does the entire thing for you. you could be a complete moron when it came to 'composing' tracks and it would still sound ok! actually made me go off trance for quite a while.

...and then you got back into your time machine, returned to 2005, and said 'yeah, but 2017 ain't all that. slurpees are banned for being carcinogenic, sasha's done a moby and is making bad punk, and JPL's spinning 'hits of the last century' at the local retirement home!'

Posted by one.tjc on Apr-13-2005 04:12:

imho less vocals the better.

[with some obvious exceptions]

Posted by escee on Apr-13-2005 04:19:

quote:
Originally posted by 00soups00
infact most vocal tunes released through 'xtravaganza' are complete rubbish

Chicane - No Ordinary Morning / Halcyon (http://www.discogs.com/release/126977)
Chicane - Don't Give Up (http://www.discogs.com/release/126960)
Chicane - Autumn Tactics (http://www.discogs.com/release/126967)
Agnelli & Nelson - Holding On To Nothing (http://www.discogs.com/release/240904)

Nyquist talks a lot of shit too.

Posted by jizza on Apr-13-2005 04:25:

quote:
Originally posted by escee
Agnelli & Nelson - Holding On To Nothing (http://www.discogs.com/release/240904)

no escee i really really really dont like this track.

Posted by christos on Apr-13-2005 04:26:

quote:
Originally posted by queen_vee
hey! never said trance lyrics were deep and meaningful, mainly they just sound sweet. BUT, if someone is singing, there's gotta be a tune someone has written, yes? a decent tune is very hard to create.

pho mo, if you've got enough party tricks on your computer you don't have to write a melody cos there's so many layers and it's all stored there for you, ready to add at whatever minute mark your little heart so desires. if you can't write a melody too well on your keyboard then synth it up and it'll sound alright. i've a friend with a sensational program for writing tracks and the bloody computer does the entire thing for you. you could be a complete moron when it came to 'composing' tracks and it would still sound ok! actually made me go off trance for quite a while.

and soups- i stand by song choices! i honestly believe the tracks i like are the most beautiful/clever/fun whatever in the world... and that would be why i like them uh huh?!

ok now...settle down...please!

Posted by Light The Fuse on Apr-13-2005 04:29:

quote:
Originally posted by Nyquist_Theorem
...and then you got back into your time machine, returned to 2005, and said 'yeah, but 2017 ain't all that. slurpees are banned for being carcinogenic, sasha's done a moby and is making bad punk, and JPL's spinning 'hits of the last century' at the local retirement home!'

LOL ill fukin rock those granmas sox man.
Theyll need to up the dosage on the iv's.

Posted by queen_vee on Apr-13-2005 04:44:

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
vocals dont necessarily add any more melody to a song than is already there. in fact the vocals are just another layer of the song.

um dude, youre lecturing the guy who won the recent Oz production competition, methinks he knows a lot more about production of quality trance tunes than youre giving him credit for. and theres no way in hell a computer is ever going to write better music than a talented musician. im thinking perhaps your tastes are a lil easier to fulfill if you think \"synthing\" up a bad melody makes it sound \"alright\".

erm, i can't really remember my original point now! i totally agree with everything you say so in response to this, i think i was only trying to say:

1. computers allow anyone to create some sort of music even if they're untrained or entirely lacking musical talent. i believe 'music' made by a non-musician with the use of a computer software program will sound better than 'music' made by a non-musician bashing away on a piano.
2. if 'sung'(as opposed to whispered sweet nothings or sighs or aaahs) vocals form part of the track then someone has really had to create and write a tune to 'sing.'

but arguments with randoms over the internet is kind of weird so i'll stick to simple postings on this forum now.

- i like some vocal tracks. beautiful things and southern sun and silence have pleasant lyrics and the girls have soothing and/or powerful voices.
- i like some non-vocal tracks. for an angel and insomnia and everyday are incredibly distinctive and powerful compositions.
- i like a nice mix-up of both on the dancefloor and i don't like too many boring fillers.

that is all

Posted by escee on Apr-13-2005 05:31:

quote:
Originally posted by jizza
no escee i really really really dont like this track.

As a jaded music lover I quite like it.

Posted by rez on Apr-13-2005 05:35:

COCO LEE FUKCED UP 'TOCA ME'

Posted by Ghostface on Apr-13-2005 08:34:

quote:
Originally posted by Light The Fuse
good basslines make people move their booties.

There is a dub on No-One on Earth (G&D Mix) available to dl from the anjunabeats site.

Posted by Dr P on Apr-13-2005 10:47:

I got a hold of that trancetribe australians productions cd thingy and basically all the tracks are crap repetitive boring and not really fresh at all.

That doesn't mean I don't like it but someone to make a real vocal track instead of a sample would be nice.

There is some good vocalists going round australia that are untapped.

You DJs out there who hate vocal tracks and wont play will never get anywhere because you can't see that 95% of punters in the club don't give a shit about "the new choon" or whatever they go to hear songs they know, like and heaven forbid sing along to.

Posted by Aesthetic on Apr-13-2005 10:51:

you're a moron - we are djs who hate SHIT vocal tracks. not vocal tracks full stop.

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