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Posted by flavdave on Apr-18-2005 02:20:

quote:
Originally posted by TranceSpeeder
oh it can beatmatch for him.


I think PvD has already proven that he knows how to beatmatch. It's not like we are talking about a new kid coming on to the scene who relies on FS to beatmatch for him.


Posted by Cobalt on Apr-18-2005 02:21:

I want to correct myself on one thing: Final Scratch does make mixing somewhat easier because you have the waveform for each channel in front of you.

But as was said, Paul has for years demonstrated that he can beatmatch just fine.


Posted by Cobalt on Apr-18-2005 02:28:

quote:
Originally posted by TranceSpeeder
being the number one dj is not all about mixing, there is more to it.

In substance, not really. It should be all about the mixing, and arguably solo production as well; then even Paul van Dyk wouldn't be in the top ten. Beyond mixing and solo production, other measures of rank are mostly fluff and marketing.

Being number one sure as hell isn't holding god poses to Adagio, though. Crowd interaction and simple icon worship are very different things.

I don't mean to be so blunt, but I'm simply saying it as I see it.


Posted by tiesto14 on Apr-18-2005 02:30:

I think being a top DJ has a LOT to do with getting the crowd going and making them have a great time.

A DJ must set the vibe of the night....it is part of his job. One of the most important parts.


Posted by Cobalt on Apr-18-2005 02:35:

quote:
Originally posted by tiesto14
I think being a top DJ has a LOT to do with getting the crowd going and making them have a great time.

Yes, but for Tiesto, how much of that is attributable to him, and how much is attributable to people being hyped up over simply seeing Tiesto? I'll willing to wager it's much more the latter, from my experiences seeing him and from others whose opinions I value.

Tiesto used to have a vibe to what he played, which is why I once regarded him as a good DJ. I haven't felt it since 2002.


Posted by TranceSpeeder on Apr-18-2005 02:37:

quote:
Originally posted by tiesto14
I think being a top DJ has a LOT to do with getting the crowd going and making them have a great time.

A DJ must set the vibe of the night....it is part of his job. One of the most important parts.


thats what tiesto does to allot of people is why he is number one, look at hulk hogan. he has the look, the feel that made him number one, his skills were not the best. image is very big in everything, even music.


Posted by Krysta_101 on Apr-18-2005 02:38:

Another reason why Tiësto is number one....

Spanish people get confused and go to his show thinking it's a "fiesta" only to find out it's "Tiësto".


Posted by tiesto14 on Apr-18-2005 02:42:

quote:
Originally posted by Cobalt
Yes, but for Tiesto, how much of that is attributable to him, and how much is attributable to people being hyped up over simply seeing Tiesto? I'll willing to wager it's much more the latter, from my experiences seeing him and from others whose opinions I value.



I see your point...sorta like how thr anticipation of something is sometimes more exciting then the actual thing u anticipated.

However....Tiesto DOES get people going...i have seen a lot of DJs in my time...and very few have the charisma that he does....he is not the only one by any means...but he has a vibe about him that people DO pick up on when seeing him live....but then again its all subjective right?


quote:
Originally posted by Cobalt
Tiesto used to have a vibe to what he played, which is why I once regarded him as a good DJ. I haven't felt it since 2002.


See THAT i agree with fully.....i should of stated above that Tiesto giving off the vibe i said above is not like his of yesterday. In 2000 and 2001 that vibe was insane...2002 also...but late mid to late 2002 it seemed like it was fading...and NOW...nah its not the same....

SO YES Tiesto DOES have a vibe that gets people going...and YES he either lost it completly or is losing it steadly.


Posted by tiesto14 on Apr-18-2005 02:42:

quote:
Originally posted by TranceSpeeder
thats what tiesto does to allot of people is why he is number one, look at hulk hogan. he has the look, the feel that made him number one, his skills were not the best. image is very big in everything, even music.



good analogy...


Posted by tiesto14 on Apr-18-2005 02:43:

quote:
Originally posted by Krysta_101
Another reason why Tiësto is number one....

Spanish people get confused and go to his show thinking it's a "fiesta" only to find out it's "Tiësto".



You are such a dweeb!


Posted by Cobalt on Apr-18-2005 02:44:

quote:
Originally posted by Krysta_101
Another reason why Tiësto is number one....

Spanish people get confused and go to his show thinking it's a "fiesta" only to find out it's "Tiësto".

Actually, in Spanish Tiesto translates directly into flowerpot.


Posted by Krysta_101 on Apr-18-2005 02:46:

quote:
Originally posted by Cobalt
Actually, in Spanish Tiesto translates directly into flowerpot.


I thought it was "Hollandese" for "man I'm too metrosexual... someone may begin to wonder about certain things they really oughtn't".

I'm wrong again huh?


Posted by Cobalt on Apr-18-2005 02:47:

quote:
Originally posted by TranceSpeeder
thats what tiesto does to allot of people is why he is number one, look at hulk hogan. he has the look, the feel that made him number one, his skills were not the best. image is very big in everything, even music.

But if it's just image and marketing, then why bother calling him #1?


Posted by Krysta_101 on Apr-18-2005 02:48:

And since when was there a www.oldasswrestlerlist.com made in a vain attempt to crown the top old ass wrestler for that matter?


Posted by TranceSpeeder on Apr-18-2005 02:49:

quote:
Originally posted by Cobalt
But if it's just image and marketing, then why bother calling him #1?


who is better than him in what he is doing?


Posted by tiesto14 on Apr-18-2005 02:49:

quote:
Originally posted by Cobalt
But if it's just image and marketing, then why bother calling him #1?




cobalt...bro..u been around long enough to know that the number one position is voted on by fans and means nothing....

I dont even think i have read that list since 2001...it's a joke.


Posted by Cobalt on Apr-18-2005 02:52:

quote:
Originally posted by Krysta_101
I thought it was "Hollandese" for "man I'm too metrosexual... someone may begin to wonder about certain things they really oughtn't".

I'm wrong again huh?

No. This is why he's very visible with loose women, just to dispel any lingering doubts.



But it still translates into flowerpot in Spanish.


Posted by tiesto14 on Apr-18-2005 02:54:

quote:
Originally posted by Cobalt
No. This is why he's very visible with loose women, just to dispel any lingering doubts.






LOL that chick in the black on the left is from Chicago...kids in the CHicago room know her...i'd do her.


Posted by sierra88 on Apr-18-2005 03:19:

tiesto is #1 because who else has these tracks he played last night ... no one

that set was fucking excellent except for him playing too many of his productions


Posted by eRRaTiK on Apr-18-2005 03:42:

OMFG FLOWERPOT!! WOOOO!!!

he's #1 coz he's got a big fkn alien looking head i tells ya.


Posted by miamitranceman on Apr-18-2005 04:19:

quote:
Originally posted by eRRaTiK
OMFG FLOWERPOT!! WOOOO!!!

he's #1 coz he's got a big fkn alien looking head i tells ya.







Posted by Cyrus King on Apr-18-2005 04:40:

quote:
Originally posted by tiesto14
LOL that chick in the black on the left is from Chicago...kids in the CHicago room know her...i'd do her.


Actually these two chicks are from toronto. I see them all the time here at events. This pic was taken in June 2003 when tiesto washere during his docks party. I was beside both of them the whole night

By the way. that set is available


Posted by Safrin on Apr-18-2005 04:55:

From reading a lot of these posts, ppl are basing tiesto's success on either his mixing ability/fulidity, or his live preformances. When it comes to dj'ing, there is a clear distinction between the two.

A great deal of tiesto's appeal comes form his charisma on stage. The way he caries himself and engages the crowd while spinning is something that can't be tought and a lot of dj's lack.

For many clubbers, seeing the dj so hyped about the music he loves is what it's all about. If some dj gets up and spins a wicked set but doesn't even crack a smile the entire night, the vibe can be thrown way off. This is not always the case, and totally depends on the person...but it's a point worth making.

The fact that he throws down good tracks one after another and spins well enough for most not to complain combined with his personality on stage is makes him number one in the eyes of many.


.::I am not defending or applauding his status as #1, this is my interpretation of the situation::.


Posted by Sykonee on Apr-18-2005 05:10:

The impression I'm getting here is Tiesto's popularity stems from the same reason that hair metal bands were so popular in the 80's: theatrics. Fine and dandy for folks who like a lively show, I guess, but what about those who enjoy music with their ears instead of their eyes?


Posted by Clovis on Apr-18-2005 05:12:

I'm just gonna go ahead and inject my opinion because I'm tired of trying to appease morons.

Tiestor fucking sucks and Sasha should be #1


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