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Originally posted by Ix2L God, if anyone I didn't know personally kicked me in the groin. I'd deck them good, and as we are talking with the bouncers and getting kicked out. I'd kicked the crap out of him outside, because someone that I have met online is not someone who, I would be associated close with. so yeah, LKD possed a threat on that j-spot guy. because LKD probably knew he was vulnerable and would not defend himself againt LKD's actions. but I don't know all of you and I probably wouldn't like to meet you guys anymore. Since when do people who meet online become enemies? or atleast close enough friends. because anybody can say anything behind a screen. Even in the midst of the TOTA crowd, could exist an undercover cop. Sure, partying with a group of new people may be fun, but they wouldn't past that certain line. I know LKD was drunk, but when your drunk why did he have to bother people on TOTA. Doesn't he have his own personal friends? or it this all the friends he has. Since he is still active on the boards after what he has done, though I give him respects for not running away like a coward. Though, it's not his drinking problems. I think he should vanish from the TOTA crowd for alittle while and partying with his own group of friends if he plans to go out partying again. Because many people of this site see you of a different guy now. Until you change, you can return. But from my prespective, I wouldn't even accept an apology. To be honest, if you did that to me. You'd get decked every fucking time I'd see you. Until you learn not to come into contact with me anymore. But many people aren't like that, they are nice. Alike the crowd of TOTA, they still accept you and so mad respects out to the crowd. anyways, I will remain annoymous though. For sure, I do not know any of you guys nor LKD. Though, I would like a picture posted of him, so it would remind me to stay away from the guy or beware of what he is capable of. I think it would be good for all of us if you guys posted a picture of him. Or himself posted a picture of him. Either way, so the public of TOTA knows who he is and what he is capable of. Just to warn the TOTA crowd, if you get my drift. - Ix2L

You had me at, "God".

It looked promising...

I thought you were going to offer some sage advice...

I was wrong.

I though you were going to make a lighthearted comment because you knew Liam on some level...

I was wrong again.

You started talking shit about people you've never met, have no intention of meeting and decided the best course of action was to hypothesis about what took place...

I became skeptical.

You began to babble incoherently...

I began to wonder if you were high when you wrote this post.

You advocated violence to resolve a situation...

I became convinced you were high and quite possibly drunk when you wrote this post.

Your post wasn't adding to the humour or offering any type of advice. Even more tragically for the reader, the analysis of the sitation was appaling. By the time you began to self stroke your ego and tell us how you would handle the sitation, i knew i was going to get a chance to use one of these in my response...

Subsequently, I couldn't help but start nodding off by the time I finished reading that block of text you call a post...

*yawn*

I'm not posting a picture, but expect to get kicked in the bollax the next time you go out -- I want the last 3 minutes of my life back, goddamnit !

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Originally posted by Kytracid You had me at, "God". It looked promising... I thought you were going to offer some sage advice... I was wrong. I though you were going to make a lighthearted comment because you knew Liam on some level... I was wrong again. You started talking shit about people you've never met, have no intention of meeting and decided the best course of action was to hypothesis about what took place... I became skeptical. You began to babble incoherently... I began to wonder if you were high when you wrote this post. You advocated violence to resolve a situation... I became convinced you were high and quite possibly drunk when you wrote this post. Your post wasn't adding to the humour or offering any type of advice. Even more tragically for the reader, the analysis of the sitation was appaling. By the time you began to self stroke your ego and tell us how you would handle the sitation, i knew i was going to get a chance to use one of these in my response... Subsequently, I couldn't help but start nodding off by the time I finished reading that block of text you call a post... *yawn* I'm not posting a picture, but expect to get kicked in the bollax the next time you go out -- I want the last 3 minutes of my life back, goddamnit !

\m/ Rock on man... sid you rule

Sid's breakdown's totally rule. He musta been itching for one for a while, seeing that we haven't had many opportunities lately.

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Originally posted by Kytracid You had me at, "God". It looked promising... I thought you were going to offer some sage advice... I was wrong. I though you were going to make a lighthearted comment because you knew Liam on some level... I was wrong again. You started talking shit about people you've never met, have no intention of meeting and decided the best course of action was to hypothesis about what took place... I became skeptical. You began to babble incoherently... I began to wonder if you were high when you wrote this post. You advocated violence to resolve a situation... I became convinced you were high and quite possibly drunk when you wrote this post. Your post wasn't adding to the humour or offering any type of advice. Even more tragically for the reader, the analysis of the sitation was appaling. By the time you began to self stroke your ego and tell us how you would handle the sitation, i knew i was going to get a chance to use one of these in my response... Subsequently, I couldn't help but start nodding off by the time I finished reading that block of text you call a post... *yawn* I'm not posting a picture, but expect to get kicked in the bollax the next time you go out -- I want the last 3 minutes of my life back, goddamnit !

Thats some of the funniest shit have read recently. im sitting her at work laughing my ass off literally trying not to be too loud so ppl dont wonder whuts going on in my office. LOL.

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Sid's breakdown's totally rule. He musta been itching for one for a while, seeing that we haven't had many opportunities lately.

+1... he just made my evening w/ that post. still laughing when i think about it and re-read it! LMFAO

~Jem~

you gotta wonder about a guy who is set on remaining anonymous, yet wants us to put a face to a name for him.....


right, buddy....!

Liam, I have seen you when you are drunk, and as people have said, you are very beligerent. It bothers me because almost all TOTAs I've met are very nice people and don't deserve to be treated in such a manner.

but, I think you are a very cool person when you're sober. You've been very friendly to me, you've invited me to many gatherings and done things for me without expecting anything in return. The problem is, since I mostly see you at clubs, I don't see the sober Liam often enough.

It won't be easy, but you can do it. Good luck man.

Oh the drama.

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Originally posted by tatgirl Sid's breakdown's totally rule. He musta been itching for one for a while, seeing that we haven't had many opportunities lately.

LOL ! I guess my posting tendancies have become quite transparant over the years huh ?

That's what 4 years of being a TA will do to ya.

I blame it on the lack of parties i've been to over the year because of school commitments. Then reading all these great reviews, enviously glossing over the party pics, wishing i was there...mulling over what i missed...then finding out it was Liams latest adventures with a full tanka gas in him.

You wanna talk about demons... I got some demons for you baby ! And they're just itching to manifest themselves in the form of sarcastic barbs aimed at the unsuspecting TOTA.

*grinz*



PS. Jem_hader and newr =

damn..and I thought u were being friendly at Ferry.

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Originally posted by dance2dabeat damn..and I thought u were being friendly at Ferry.

probebly cause he was thinking with his little head......

there is alot of lkd bashing going on here.. i think you guys need a sense of humor

On a more serious note.

Liam, i hope you read some of the things in this thread, both good and bad and reflect upon them. I don't you that well, but from what i've seen i believe you're a good guy 95% of the time. Having had friends who behave obnoxiously when they are drunk and get away with it, i also know how it's easy to allow such behaviour to develop into a pattern. You gotta remember that doesn't make it universally accepted though. I think you already know that -- it's just you tend to forget once the drinks start flowing.

You seem to have a core group of TA's who believe you can address these problems if you take a good hard look at yourself. I think they're right. If you feel shame -- that's a good thing. Callous people are the only one's who don't feel shame or regret in their actions. If that shame helps you to sort out your problems, then you'll back one day and see that event as a turning point, instead of the night excessive drinking brought out the asshole in you.

Good luck buddy. I believe in second chances...and i think you redeem yourself if you really want to.

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Originally posted by Kytracid You had me at, "God". It looked promising... I thought you were going to offer some sage advice... I was wrong. I though you were going to make a lighthearted comment because you knew Liam on some level... I was wrong again. You started talking shit about people you've never met, have no intention of meeting and decided the best course of action was to hypothesis about what took place... I became skeptical. You began to babble incoherently... I began to wonder if you were high when you wrote this post. You advocated violence to resolve a situation... I became convinced you were high and quite possibly drunk when you wrote this post. Your post wasn't adding to the humour or offering any type of advice. Even more tragically for the reader, the analysis of the sitation was appaling. By the time you began to self stroke your ego and tell us how you would handle the sitation, i knew i was going to get a chance to use one of these in my response... Subsequently, I couldn't help but start nodding off by the time I finished reading that block of text you call a post... *yawn* I'm not posting a picture, but expect to get kicked in the bollax the next time you go out -- I want the last 3 minutes of my life back, goddamnit !

u talk like some scientist/professional/nerd. "Subsequently" "advocated" "incoherently" "appaling". u always right like that. wuts wrong with u?

i dont get half the shit u ever say

but it was kinda funny, in a retarded way

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Originally posted by nycionx i dont get half the shit u ever say

you need a certain thing called intelligence to understand Sid's posts.

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Originally posted by Kytracid On a more serious note. Liam, i hope you read some of the things in this thread, both good and bad and reflect upon them. I don't you that well, but from what i've seen i believe you're a good guy 95% of the time. Having had friends who behave obnoxiously when they are drunk and get away with it, i also know how it's easy to allow such behaviour to develop into a pattern. You gotta remember that doesn't make it universally accepted though. I think you already know that -- it's just you tend to forget once the drinks start flowing. You seem to have a core group of TA's who believe you can address these problems if you take a good hard look at yourself. I think they're right. If you feel shame -- that's a good thing. Callous people are the only one's who don't feel shame or regret in their actions. If that shame helps you to sort out your problems, then you'll back one day and see that event as a turning point, instead of the night excessive drinking brought out the asshole in you. Good luck buddy. I believe in second chances...and i think you redeem yourself if you really want to.

universally
Callous

ps. i kno wut all ur words mean, but i never heard anyone talk like that, and its funny

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Originally posted by Kytracid LOL ! I guess my posting tendancies have become quite transparant over the years huh ?

Though always entertaining

EDIT: and intelligent, fighting back the tide of random (and not-so-random) TA stupidity

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Originally posted by E2EK1EL Being an old skool or even the founder of TA, doesn�t make you have the right to act like this at any given time. When I first met you, you were acting all high and mighty �. and for what? You always wanted to run the show. (Tiesto @ the KH in 2001. �Where is all the TAs?� �Look around you was all over and we�re taking over shit�) Even from this day, you walk around acting all high and mighty when you have simply nothing to show or prove. Even if you were the shit of the scene, is it proper for an individual to act like a king? And put people down and hit them? Through out the years, you have been psychically and verbally abusing people when you�re drunk. From what I�ve heard, you�ve been like this from the start. Punching, slapping and any type of psychical attacking to random TAs. What have they done to you? What goes through your mind when you�re about to swing at them? Do you really have that much hate and anger towards everyone? Do you feel that you�re not accepted in some ways? Well hitting people and acting like a fool, really doesn�t help what kind of rep. you already have already � online and in person. What you did at the Kool Haus on Saturday was unforgiving. Not only you have randomly hit so many TAs, you might even possible fuck up someone relationship with two very nice people. I have never seen this person so upset, she was crying throughout the night. You know she is the coolest (in your term) OLD SKOOL TA. So many times I could have got you tossed out at the clubs, especially when you pushed Emery. The security asked me nicely, if I knew you and this and that. I had to think twice and let it go. Why do you feel that TAs owes you for the shit you do? I do a lot for TA and everyone thanks me for it, but never thought about how much TA owes me for the time and effort I put in. I do what I want to do for one reason, is to have fun and make the people around me happy. I personally feel I owe TA so much, for all the support they have given me through out the years. I don't care if ppl think of me as "DA MAN or DA LEGEND" Fuck it, I'm just as importaint as everyone else on TA here, we're all at the equal level of respect and friendship. I know nuff people are not going to accept your apologies or forgive you for all the shit you�ve done to all these random TAs through out the years. I never liked you, nor will I ever like you in the future. I never had seen such a messed up individual in my life. Honestly, you really need to seek help, with your drinking, anger management and how to be a nice person. If you don�t change your ways as individual, one of these days you will get hurt badly from someone that might even put you in the hospital. *For all those who think what I�m saying here online is a method of hiding behind shit, I�ve told LKD 2x already in person about his behavior in the past* Don�t waste your time posting a reply to this, b/c I not going to even bother to read it.

i didnt wanted to say anything but after reading this i really had to, just to let you know something liam.

i saw you maybe 5-6 times so far and every time i have been really nice to you, we had some conversations,some drinks, we shared some laughs, hell we even talked about girls.

and every single time you were ok guy, until later in the night when u get all smashed out of your mind when u start to do stupid shit.

and i really didnt mind that much you yelling "fuck you" at me in front of hundred or so people, i didnt mind you giving me the finger right in my face, i didnt mind when you called me names in your language, drunk people do stupid shit (oh i really know that) i even offered you some advice from my hearth, i gave you advice like i would give advice to my best friend.

and then that night when we went to lee coombs you called my sister a slut and a bitch ??????

dude, you can consider yourself the luckiest man on the planet cause i didnt hear it, and you should thank my sister for being such a nice girl that she told those 2 guys to chill down and to leave you alone, cause they heard you and they wanted to teach you some manners, like how you should respect somebody, especially a girl that u saw 3 times in your life.

im gonna give you one more advice, and please do not think that im trying to put you down or something like that, really im just telling you all this to make you understand that if you continue to act like this one day you'll say something to somebody who's not gonna be forgiving like people from TA and then you will be fucked :

GET YOUR SHIT TOGETHER.

you are attracting wrong kind of attention (i told you that first time when we met) and its only matter of time till you fuck up really really bad, so you gotta change something.

and please understand, im not trying to make you feel bad or to put you down but you have to learn from your mistakes, and i just wanted to let you know that i know about you dissrespecting my sister, and buddy if that happens ever again its not gonna be good.

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Originally posted by Kytracid I believe in second chances...and i think you redeem yourself if you really want to.

I believe in 2nd chances too.

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Originally posted by crazedcanuck This is one of the most incomprehensibly retarded things I've ever seen posted here.

You beat me to it.

Turns out it's not just a lack of sleep, but that made no fucking sense whatsoever.

Time for me to weigh in on all of this.

I didn't end up going to US7. Anyone who read my pity thread (see 'the Official I ain't goin to UltraSpin7 Thread') would know that.. But after reading the aftermath of what happened, it seems like there's this huge, ominous cloud over what should have been a tremendous event.

I take pride in being a member of TOTA. I take very seriously the friendships and ties I've formed in the last couple of months with those in and around Kitchener, Waterloo, Guelph & Cambridge (yes, and Kingston too ). So when I hear people (one above) rattling on about 'Not having real friends', It irritates me. Those who I know on TOTA are some of the closest friends I have. I'm impressed beyond words at the community atmosphere that exists in TOTA, and the fact that some EXTREMELY negative people are fueling this little powderkeg by taking cheap shots at a person who must obviously be feeling like shit bugs the shit out of me.

I don't know Liam personally. I don't really know him on the board. I've never met him @ a club. I'm not about to sit and defend him (according to what people have been saying) because I've had the displeasure of working around Alcoholics and Abusive People as a member of the Children's Aid Society of London and Middlesex. They're not fun.

But he's here, asking for forgiveness because he realizes the impact of what he's done, and this might be that 'Moment of Clarity' that everyone often talks about. So cut the man some slack.

Nycionx, I don't know you from a hole in the God Damned wall, but what I've heard out of you amounts to a whole lot of jack shit. Don't pipe in unless you've got something moderately consequential to say. You're only coming off looking like a Knob. Grow the fuck up.

I think everyone needs to just chill the hell out and let the dust settle. It's not like Liam needs an intervention or something. just let the man get his act straightened out.. If he wants help, he'll ask for it. He doesn't need us babysitting him, but I'm sure he's well aware we (and by WE I mean those that actually make a positive contribution) are all there in support if need be.

*deep breath*

I'm dying to see how tough Ix2L really is....


Karim

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Originally posted by Jem_hadar I believe in 2nd chances too.

i believe in santa

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Originally posted by nycionx universally Callous ps. i kno wut all ur words mean, but i never heard anyone talk like that, and its funny

Seriously, I have never seen someone be so proud of being so stupid.

I have no idea what you did, but I really think those involved should give you credit for publicly apologizing. It takes a lot of character and courage to admit you were wrong, especially in front of hundreds of people who can judge and say some pretty nasty things.

So props to you for being strong and putting yourself out there to face the music.

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Originally posted by Theresa I have no idea what you did, but I really think those involved should give you credit for publicly apologizing. It takes a lot of character and courage to admit you were wrong, especially in front of hundreds of people who can judge and say some pretty nasty things. So props to you for being strong and putting yourself out there to face the music.

+1

too lazy to contribute. I've never met LKD, not my place to comment, but regardless of what was done, apologizing is good first step.

TA Family Meeting.

dno you, or what you did really, but here's a little advice:

although apologizing is the right step, i think it would be a little more heartfelt if you apologized in person to all the people that you've hurt.

You hurt them in person, apologize, and show you really are sorry in person. They deserve at least that.

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