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Posted by Kristina Sky on May-04-2005 17:28:

quote:
Originally posted by NeroFlash
Cons:-Yea the line fiasco really got annoying, VIP took so long to get in that is just not a way to go please fix that. -The dancing in circle was really annoying too. -The sound need to be a bit clearer and less banging. -The fact that Acosta did not close was weird.


as far as I know we didnt have VIP at all on opening night... so I am confused as to why everyone keeps complaining about this "vip line"..

i also thought it was strange he didnt close, but im not going to turn down to opportunity to play to a happy jumpin room, so I did.

why a headlining dj would NOT want to play til the end is beyond me...

quote:
Originally posted by NeroFlash
Pros: -Lighting was pretty tight. –The crowd was good -The vibe was ok. -Security was courteous. -The men bathroom was alright (went 3 times and did not have to wait) –The smoking area was ok.

Musically this was a fun night for me I dance all true Acosta set, but it was not something I would remember. Acosta is a fun dj and I always have a good time nothing more. (Let’s just say the cheese was the trader Joe’s Brie and I like Brie but I prefer Camambert)
Taylor set was boring for me until he played Mr. Brightside.

As far the 18 vs. 21 I don’t really care and understand both side of the fence. I do agree about the younger crowd energy.
But I’m the opinions if you go to a club don’t act like if you go to a rave (do not dance in circle, crazy glow sticks shows, dress up a bit, act like you can handle your drug or alchool…)



whats up with these weird symbols in your post? are you speaking to us in TA? ;-)

thanks for coming out on friday. we appreciate it.


Posted by Hypersky on May-04-2005 17:36:

There was a line ? I walked straight in.


Posted by NeroFlash on May-04-2005 17:37:

The problem with the VIP was that after we pay and got our tickets we still have to wait in the line with general admition to get ID check.
We should have been able to get in directly.

Not sure what symbols you talking about? please clarify


Posted by SVGmethod on May-04-2005 17:37:

he prolly means guestlist line...


Posted by sweetcandy girl on May-04-2005 20:14:

quote:
Originally posted by SVGmethod
he prolly means guestlist line...


yes he does.. The Guest list line was called the VIP line accroding to sign that was posted on the window


Posted by TrancE951 on May-04-2005 22:29:

quote:
Originally posted by Clovis86
How the fuck do you dance to 140bpm+??

Unless you consider jumping up and down constantly dancing...


You can't possibly be serious. 140 is nothing.

If your feet don't move from the ground, then you're just shaking your ass like you're at hip hop club. lmao!


Posted by DJ Kenosis on May-04-2005 22:34:

quote:
Originally posted by TrancE951
You can't possibly be serious. 140 is nothing.

If your feet don't move from the ground, then you're just shaking your ass like you're at hip hop club. lmao!




well, not literally, but he has a good point. MIKE was DEFINITELY over 140 bpm by the end of his set at Spundae, and I was dancing like crazy (and it wasn't the 'old-fobby-people-flailing-at-the-arms' dancing).


Posted by Hypersky on May-04-2005 22:35:

JOOF will probably play a majority of his set at 142 imo. At least everything after the first 20 min or so.


Posted by DJ Kenosis on May-04-2005 22:38:

quote:
Originally posted by Hypersky
JOOF will probably play a majority of his set at 142 imo. At least everything after the first 20 min or so.



Posted by Clovis on May-04-2005 23:06:

quote:
Originally posted by TrancE951
You can't possibly be serious. 140 is nothing.

If your feet don't move from the ground, then you're just shaking your ass like you're at hip hop club. lmao!


So your saying dancing isn't dancing if you aren't jumping?

You think people dance to hardcore?


Posted by TrancE951 on May-05-2005 07:25:

My simple point is that anyone can dance comfortably up to about 146-147 BPM. Once you start pushing close to 150, then it gets tough to dance in rhythm. If I can do it, and all my friends can do it, then you probably can too!


Posted by Allayla on May-05-2005 07:29:

i like to dance to 190 bpm and uncontrolably slap poeple around like a blithering idiot


Posted by hoangad on May-05-2005 07:46:

i usually masturbate at 195 bpm

lol


Posted by SVGmethod on May-05-2005 07:58:

hahaha wtf


Posted by sweetcandy girl on May-05-2005 14:51:

quote:
Originally posted by hoangad
i usually masturbate at 195 bpm

lol


Does it take 2 DD's or 4???




























(j/k)


Posted by SVGmethod on May-05-2005 15:43:

total ownage!!


Posted by hoangad on May-05-2005 16:42:

quote:
Originally posted by sweetcandy girl
Does it take 2 DD's or 4???





Posted by Kristina Sky on May-05-2005 17:17:

enough already...

im sorry everyone..

but do we REALLY need to be having conversations about BPMs?

Unless you are a dj, BPMs mean nothing to you. (not directed to anyone in particular, just using the general "you")

either you like upbeat music, downbeat music or breakbeat music.

i really doubt JOOF or many other big DJS are actually planning out
their BPMs as much as everyone seems to think.


I'm so tired of coming on this board and seeing everyone talk about what DOESNT matter...

Its like we pick apart the music so much that its reduced to nothing and it takes away so much of the fun.

I just cant understand why there is so much controversy about BPM.. seriously...

If BPM is that much of an issue for you, I think you people need to take up DJing...

I mean if you are gonna get that serious about the details, than you might as well dj instead of just chat about it on these boards.

Again I am going to have to go back to the fact that this music is an artform and is not supposed to be under so many guidelines ...

A good dj is a good dj, period.

who the fuck cares about BPM?

I mean really...

If you weren't feelin a DJ set, it is NOT about the BPM, its about the set as a whole.

I try not to get too involved in the quarrels on here but when I saw how far the BPM thing was going, I had to say something...

I just think we all have better things to do than sit on the TA boards and nitpick every single thing about a DJ or their set...

and if people have so much to say about DJs track selection or technical ability etc.. than my suggestion to those people is to start DJing yourself and THEN come back and have these arguments...


BUT, what I think you will find is that most real DJs do not talk or bicker about these kinds of topics...

ironically enough, the majority of these threads and convos are started and fueled by people that dont dj.

...

bottom line, i think TAs should let the DJs worry about what kinda ride they are gonna take you on and how fast that ride is gonna go

and the TAs should do their thing, which is being ADDICTED to TRANCE and fueling the heart of the scene.

anyway i wont go on...


I love TA and all the TAs.. but sometimes I really feel like this board is starting to lose its way...


Posted by Allayla on May-05-2005 17:31:

haha so true, thats why i started to joke about it, bpm's IMO can vary throughout a set, if done right, but im no dj just love the edm.


Posted by SVGmethod on May-05-2005 17:34:

what she said...if you cant handle the heat, stay out the kitchen. LOL.


Posted by Kristina Sky on May-05-2005 17:46:

quote:
Originally posted by starboy
haha so true, thats why i started to joke about it, bpm's IMO can vary throughout a set, if done right, but im no dj just love the edm.


Thank you starboy!!!

YOu know what Im sayin.

You actually said what I was trying to say in another way.

djs can, should , and do vary their bpm during a set.

all these peeps wanting to be set on one tempo the whole night... dont really get it..

but im glad you guys got what im sayin.

i was hoping it didnt come out the wrong way.

:-)


Posted by SVGmethod on May-06-2005 04:54:

ouch. lol.


Posted by Psiweaver on May-08-2005 06:26:

Well said Kristina


Posted by kittycrush on May-08-2005 07:58:

Re: enough already...

quote:
Originally posted by djskyhigh
the TAs should do their thing, which is being ADDICTED to TRANCE and fueling the heart of the scene.



So very well put!





Just now reading this thread for the first time and it is all over the place!


Had a great time on the re-opening night and it always makes my night to see/hear Kristina spin!!


Posted by nrgtrance39 on May-08-2005 15:24:

yeah unfortunatly Krsitina alot of other DJs and producers in the scene also think TA is loosing its way, its sad, but it seem as if everyone is picking apart the differant elements of this great music. never have i scene a genre torn down all the way to BPMs, Keys, and other crap we as listenrs do not need to concentrate on. All we should be concerned about is the flow of the night, and understand what the DJ is trying to relay through their sets. TA is also known for having elitist. whom like to voice negative comments on tracks, thus starting very very big topics on something that is dividing us. when really thats not what this music is all about. I mean i think all this started from massives in europe. and i cant think of the word right now. but i believe that word ment the gathering of friends. but now it seems like the gathering of bedroom DJs, choosing to bash on the DJs, that are feuling the scene, and have paid there dues to be where they are at. In anything you respect your elders. lets just hope most of TA recognizes this and we can enjoy a forum that not only we go to but big names in promotions, DJing, and produicing come to.


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