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crackheads are brainless fuckups

do i have to bring DJSlain into it?

anyways, i've learned to accept that people are going to do what they're going to do. I can't tell a pill popper to change his ways, just like i can't stop a pedophile from going to the local deli. Just as long as it doesn't affect me and my business, then go and take it in or out of moderation.

however, we do remember the gatecrasher incident where there was a raid specifically drug trafficing in the club. THAT becomes my business when my party experience is affected.

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Originally posted by Omega_Blue drugs are retarded in general huh. if you wanna get technical, eating too much can cause damage to your body. maybe we should give up on food. fuck food. it could harm you.

TOO MUCH, is the key word. Eating too much is bad. But ANY dose of drugs are bad too. So don't eat TOO MUCH and don't do drugs AT ALL.

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Originally posted by vrahnos yeah, cigarettes and alcohol are way more bad for our health..

Only if you drink in excessive amounts , glass of wine or a glass of scotch or a bottle of beer every once in a while will never hurt you . Besides alcoholism is not a disease , it's a weakens , you simply have to know when to say I've had enough to drink for today , that's all . I know people that have been smoking all their life's , they are in their 80's now and have no long cancer , I know about people that never smoked in their life's and died from long cancer even thou they've never been around smokers , so it wasn't second hand smoke either . I personally used to smoke cigarettes but I had to quit due to ridiculously high prices .

the thing is, (with me, for example) i don't care about crackheads or unmoderated extacy users or whatever. i don't care if their health is affected or not, and whether half of them will die today or tomorrow because of that, and whether half of them will be from this board. i won't think "what a shame, such a good person passed away at such an early age", i'll think "darwinism at its best. bring it on!".

BUT

in the near future (like, several years from now), i will probably have kids. when their time comes, i want them to go to the clubs, but i don't want them to be exposed to drugs. i don't think they will be prepared to make a solid and sober judgement, when being lured by the people who make living off of it. that's why, i'm all for narcs trying to bring down the dealers and the dealer network in general. if a single person wants to get fucked up with drugs or alcohol or whatnot - that's his/her own decision, and i don't give a shit about it, but when it comes to things like that being treated as almost an open market, and my friends/relatives/children being potentially affected, i say: burn the ****** who sells drugs, electrocute him and tie his balls on top of his head in a knot.

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Originally posted by dj_mdma I can't tell if you're being sarcastic here (lol) but it is not physically addictive, only psychologically addictive. And before anyone jumps onto that statement, a lot of things are psychologically addicitve, such as chocolate and masturbating

i think only heroin and alcohol are physically addictive, ie if you take shit loads of them and then stop you could die as your body becomes physically dependant on them

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Originally posted by Jocker the thing is, (with me, for example) i don't care about crackheads or unmoderated extacy users or whatever. i don't care if their health is affected or not, and whether half of them will die today or tomorrow because of that, and whether half of them will be from this board. i won't think "what a shame, such a good person passed away at such an early age", i'll think "darwinism at its best. bring it on!". BUT in the near future (like, several years from now), i will probably have kids. when their time comes, i want them to go to the clubs, but i don't want them to be exposed to drugs. i don't think they will be prepared to make a solid and sober judgement, when being lured by the people who make living off of it. that's why, i'm all for narcs trying to bring down the dealers and the dealer network in general. if a single person wants to get fucked up with drugs or alcohol or whatnot - that's his/her own decision, and i don't give a shit about it, but when it comes to things like that being treated as almost an open market, and my friends/relatives/children being potentially affected, i say: burn the ****** who sells drugs, electrocute him and tie his balls on top of his head in a knot.

i'm sure they will respond with the responsiblity of a parent to keeping children out of drug infested areas. yes, it is our resposibility. But these days, drugs are manifesting in every scene. Its almost impossible for a family to join any faction without ties to drugs. So like i said, yes, if you feel drugs are part of your life, then take it. However, do it in some place that it will not affect the business of others.
i don't except either side of this argument to agree with me. Jocker might not agree with me with the semi acceptance of drug use. The other side may not agree with me semi condoning the use of drugs. it's the conclusion i've come across in the world we live today.

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Originally posted by slinkyhead i think only heroin and alcohol are physically addictive, ie if you take shit loads of them and then stop you could die as your body becomes physically dependant on them

Cigarettes are actually more addictive than heroin.

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Originally posted by Jocker the thing is, (with me, for example) i don't care about crackheads or unmoderated extacy users or whatever. i don't care if their health is affected or not, and whether half of them will die today or tomorrow because of that, and whether half of them will be from this board. i won't think "what a shame, such a good person passed away at such an early age", i'll think "darwinism at its best. bring it on!". BUT in the near future (like, several years from now), i will probably have kids. when their time comes, i want them to go to the clubs, but i don't want them to be exposed to drugs. i don't think they will be prepared to make a solid and sober judgement, when being lured by the people who make living off of it. that's why, i'm all for narcs trying to bring down the dealers and the dealer network in general. if a single person wants to get fucked up with drugs or alcohol or whatnot - that's his/her own decision, and i don't give a shit about it, but when it comes to things like that being treated as almost an open market, and my friends/relatives/children being potentially affected, i say: burn the ****** who sells drugs, electrocute him and tie his balls on top of his head in a knot..

The only thing that bothers me is when anti-drug, high-horse riding losers pass judgement on me and my character based solely on ONE of the aspects of my life.

Hate to break it, but studies some major cities showed that something like 40% of adults aged 18-30 do some form of illegal drugs at least once a month, be it weed, cocaine, crack or pills.

If I were to choose to do 2 pills a night, once month, that makes me worthy of 'Natural Selection'? Bollocks

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Originally posted by Jocker the thing is, (with me, for example) i don't care about crackheads or unmoderated extacy users or whatever. i don't care if their health is affected or not, and whether half of them will die today or tomorrow because of that, and whether half of them will be from this board. i won't think "what a shame, such a good person passed away at such an early age", i'll think "darwinism at its best. bring it on!".

Awesome...you stay at home and listen to trance in your little headphones...I'll be at the club with my friends rolling off my face and having the time of my life.

And I'll be having kids later on aswell...and I hope they roll at parties too.

Im torn between my desire for a scene consisting of those who love the music and my disdain for America's strong-arm and arguably illegal anti-drug tactics.

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Originally posted by tribu Im torn between my desire for a scene consisting of those who love the music and my disdain for America's strong-arm and arguably illegal anti-drug tactics.

What I dont understand is why people equate dropping a pill to not loving the music...

imo it couldn't be further from the truth. When I roll to an amazing DJ I have the most intimate connection to the music he is playing...the sounds become a part of my life more than ever...and I LOVE it.

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Originally posted by kr00t0n Cigarettes are actually more addictive than heroin.

How many people did you know in your life that actually used heroin? The people I've meet in my life said they got addicted after trying heroin only two times. They could not quit for shit without special treatment. You can quit cigarettes "cold turkey" and be just fine, no seizures.

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Originally posted by Digital Rain How many people did you know in your life that actually used heroin? The people I've meet in my life said they got addicted after trying heroin only two times. They could not quit for shit without special treatment. You can quit cigarettes "cold turkey" and be just fine, no seizures.

it depends on how much you did in how close of a time period. just because you know a handful of people that got addicted doesn't mean that everyone will. you can't say that "no matter what heroin will get you hooked with severe withdrawals after two tries" because that would just be overgeneralizing.


and, to you anti-drug nazis... meth is universally bad right? well... methamphetamine is a treatment for extreme cases of juvenile ADD. amphetamines are also. opiates such as morphine and oxycodone are used as painkillers... so let's refrain from the "all drugs are BAD!!!" mentality please

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Originally posted by Omega_Blue it depends on how much you did in how close of a time period. just because you know a handful of people that got addicted doesn't mean that everyone will. you can't say that "no matter what heroin will get you hooked with severe withdrawals after two tries" because that would just be overgeneralizing.

They were on that stuff much longer than two time, trust me they were "experts" and you have no idea what kinds of neighborhoods I lived in in the past, so it's not a hand full of people that I know.

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Originally posted by Clovis86 What I dont understand is why people equate dropping a pill to not loving the music... imo it couldn't be further from the truth. When I roll to an amazing DJ I have the most intimate connection to the music he is playing...the sounds become a part of my life more than ever...and I LOVE it.

This is a good statement. I was not trying to infer that all drug users are there solely for the drugs. There are clearly people who can use drugs responsibly in a public setting with a dubious social perception like an EDM event. However, there is no way to draw a line between the responsible and the irresponsible. Many use drugs and become socially inopperable, use irresponsibly, and/or blame the drug for anything that may have been out of their ordinary (Many US court cases have shown that, even in crimes as serious as rape and murder, drug use is an acceptable defense).

I really dont mind drug use of any kind at a party. What I do mind is those who dont use responsibly. I feel these people tend to gather at EDM events because of its 'shady' image, and they imagine drugs will be readily avaliable and they don't know where else to get them. These people are looking to get fucked up, nothing more. These are the individuals I would like to see out of the scene.

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Originally posted by Clovis86 Awesome...you stay at home and listen to trance in your little headphones...I'll be at the club with my friends rolling off my face and having the time of my life. And I'll be having kids later on aswell...and I hope they roll at parties too.

better yet, i'll be at the club and have awesome time without "rolling" or use of any other substance. and i'll make sure my kids grow up to do the same.

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Originally posted by kr00t0n Cigarettes are actually more addictive than heroin. The only thing that bothers me is when anti-drug, high-horse riding losers pass judgement on me and my character based solely on ONE of the aspects of my life. Hate to break it, but studies some major cities showed that something like 40% of adults aged 18-30 do some form of illegal drugs at least once a month, be it weed, cocaine, crack or pills. If I were to choose to do 2 pills a night, once month, that makes me worthy of 'Natural Selection'? Bollocks

no... you don't read carefully. what i said and meant is

1) i don't give a shit about your life. you can live for 125 more years - or die today - i won't have a single neurotransmitter fired in either case. so, naturally, i don't judge you at all, it's your own choice what to do with your life.

2) you become worthy of "natural selection" if you die because of drug abuse. just like any other person who dies of high cholesterol because he eats at mcdonalds, or of lung cancer because he smokes, or of liver cirrhosis because he drinks too much alcohol.

3) i don't advocate for putting the end users to jail. only the dealers.

that's all.

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Originally posted by Omega_Blue and, to you anti-drug nazis... meth is universally bad right? well... methamphetamine is a treatment for extreme cases of juvenile ADD. amphetamines are also. opiates such as morphine and oxycodone are used as painkillers... so let's refrain from the "all drugs are BAD!!!" mentality please

you realise that add kids end up being spaced out boneheads when they take that shit and the use of opiates is strictly controlled BECAUSE of the fact that they are highly addictive. rethink what your saying when you try to justify drug use by comparing them to treatment modalities.

honestly take whatever you want though, its your body and i think we are all old enough to make our own decisions. just dont come offer to suck my dick when you need some scratch for crack

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Originally posted by Jocker no... you don't read carefully. what i said is 1) i don't give a shit about your life. you can live for 125 more year - or die today - i won't have a single neurotransmitter fired in either case. so, naturally, i don't judge you at all, it's your own choice what to do with your life. 2) you become worthy of "natural selection" if you die because of drug abuse. just like any other person who dies of high cholesterol because he eats at mcdonalds, or of lung cancer because he smokes, or of liver cirrhosis because he drinks too much alcohol. 3) i don't advocate for putting the end users to jail. only the dealers. that's all.

you may not be judging him, but there is a definite overtone of "im better than everyone else because ive made the correct choices in life so der"

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Originally posted by OLi_A you may not be judging him, but there is a definite overtone of "im better than everyone else because ive made the correct choices in life so der"

probably, that's what people with inferiority complexes try to read between the lines. i clearly don't put any overtones in my messages. once again, your choice is your choice, mine is mine. i don't give a single molecule of shit what you do with your life. and i don't judge people i don't care about. that's it. no overtones there.

the only offensive to some group of people thing that i said is that "crackheads are brainless fuckups". that's my general vision of a "crackhead", or, by what i mean, a person addicted to crack, and therefore abusing it. i don't compare a "crackhead" to me, to see whether i'm better or worse, i just define such group of people as "brainless fuckups" in my own dictionary. clearly, a person who uses crack in moderation and recreationally, and is doing it not because he/she is addicted, but because it's fun to him, cannot be called a "crackhead" in my book.

i like your avatar and your view jocker. problem is that we appear to be a very aloof people when presented with problems like these. i say we just smoke some crack and have a businessman blow on our faces

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Originally posted by OLi_A i like your avatar and your view jocker. problem is that we appear to be a very aloof people when presented with problems like these. i say we just smoke some crack and have a businessman blow on our faces

ok, you'll smoke crack, i'll smoke weed

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Originally posted by Jocker probably, that's what people with inferiority complexes try to read between the lines. i clearly don't put any overtones in my messages. once again, your choice is your choice, mine is mine. i don't give a single molecule of shit what you do with your life. and i don't judge people i don't care about. that's it. no overtones there. the only offensive to some group of people thing that i said is that "crackheads are brainless fuckups". that's my general vision of a "crackhead", or, by what i mean, a person addicted to crack, and therefore abusing it. i don't compare a "crackhead" to me, to see whether i'm better or worse, i just define such group of people as "brainless fuckups" in my own dictionary. clearly, a person who uses crack in moderation and recreationally, and is doing it not because he/she is addicted, but because it's fun to him, cannot be called a "crackhead" in my book.

Yeah, capital letters are over rated.

Actually it's true - cigarettes ARE more addicting than heroin.

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Originally posted by DjConfessions I can't tell a pill popper to change his ways, just like i can't stop a pedophile from going to the local deli. Just as long as it doesn't affect me and my business, then go and take it in or out of moderation.

Idiot. Comparing pill-poppers with pedophiles?!? Idiot again, and IDIOT.

Other than that +1 to kr00t0ns posts about drug-nazis and generalization.

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