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Posted by LeopoldStotch on Jul-28-2005 03:14:

congrats to thomas, the knicks, and larry brown ..

i really have high hopes for the organization .. i am admitably an isaiah thomas lover since his early days with "the bad boys" to his semi-works with indiana ( how he lured ron artest away from chicago ), and now i guess his "legos" work with new york ..


Posted by Member of X on Jul-28-2005 20:49:

Blazers signed Juan Dixon to a deal. I'm quite happy actually. 3 years, 8 million. Good shooter and the Blazers desperately need some of that. Big game player. He scored 35 pts against Chicago in the playoffs one game this year. I hear he's a good character guy so that's good as well, Blazers need that.


Posted by Kapedano on Jul-29-2005 06:48:

quote:
Originally posted by Member of X
Blazers signed Juan Dixon to a deal. I'm quite happy actually. 3 years, 8 million. Good shooter and the Blazers desperately need some of that. Big game player. He scored 35 pts against Chicago in the playoffs one game this year. I hear he's a good character guy so that's good as well, Blazers need that.


yeah defently, good pickup by the blazers, hope he can bring something to them.


Posted by Viber on Jul-29-2005 22:46:

quote:
Originally posted by Member of X
Blazers signed Juan Dixon to a deal. I'm quite happy actually. 3 years, 8 million. Good shooter and the Blazers desperately need some of that. Big game player. He scored 35 pts against Chicago in the playoffs one game this year. I hear he's a good character guy so that's good as well, Blazers need that.


There's a possibility thats Jamaal Crafowrd will come in a trade for Miles so keep your pant on


Posted by LeopoldStotch on Jul-29-2005 22:49:

speaking of jamaal crawford and the knicks ...


on the other side of the bay, the nets got even better by getting jeff mcinnis .. a solid backup for jason kidd .. kudos again to nets management .. should we be thanking jay-z right now, or he doesn't take the management until the nets move to brooklyn ?


Posted by verndogs on Jul-29-2005 22:54:

quote:
Originally posted by LeopoldStotch
speaking of jamaal crawford and the knicks ...


on the other side of the bay, the nets got even better by getting jeff mcinnis .. a solid backup for jason kidd .. kudos again to nets management .. should we be thanking jay-z right now, or he doesn't take the management until the nets move to brooklyn ?


1) the Nets have a very underrated GM in Rod Thorne

2) Bruce Rathner, owner of the Nets, will move the team to Brooklyn. He also decided to open up his wallets.


Posted by LeopoldStotch on Jul-29-2005 22:59:

quote:
Originally posted by verndogs
1) the Nets have a very underrated GM in Rod Thorne

2) Bruce Rathner, owner of the Nets, will move the team to Brooklyn. He also decided to open up his wallets.


indeed they did .. the three most important decisions he made in my opinion were :

1. keeping jason kidd stable in new jersey, after talks he wanted out of new jersey.

2. signing a fat contract to keep lawerence frank at the helm of the team. this guy is a really good coach.

3. not re-signing kenyon martin, instead taking vc, shareef, and making a solid backup bench .. this team could go far in 2006 .. as long as carter, rj, and kidd are there, they can make some havoc like they did in the early 2000s.


Posted by Viber on Jul-29-2005 23:20:

quote:
Originally posted by LeopoldStotch
3. not re-signing kenyon martin, instead taking vc, shareef, and making a solid backup bench .. this team could go far in 2006 .. as long as carter, rj, and kidd are there, they can make some havoc like they did in the early 2000s.


I dont agree with this,they could have had a younger,better defensive player in Martin if they resigned him,this was the biggest mistake cuz they could have had an awesome season with Martin this year.
Carter is prone to injuries so i would'nt be so glad on having him even though when healthy he is almost as good as Kobe.
Building on an olding player who cryes every year about every thing like kidd is also not the best thing...


Posted by verndogs on Jul-29-2005 23:26:

quote:
Originally posted by Viber
I dont agree with this,they could have had a younger,better defensive player in Martin if they resigned him,this was the biggest mistake cuz they could have had an awesome season with Martin this year.
Carter is prone to injuries so i would'nt be so glad on having him even though when healthy he is almost as good as Kobe.
Building on an olding player who cryes every year about every thing like kidd is also not the best thing...


it's a great deal IMO since the Nets got 3!!!! first round draft picks for him


Posted by LeopoldStotch on Jul-29-2005 23:40:

quote:
Originally posted by Viber
I dont agree with this,they could have had a younger,better defensive player in Martin if they resigned him,this was the biggest mistake cuz they could have had an awesome season with Martin this year.
Carter is prone to injuries so i would'nt be so glad on having him even though when healthy he is almost as good as Kobe.
Building on an olding player who cryes every year about every thing like kidd is also not the best thing...


ah .. i am not a big kenyon martin fan .. sure he is aggressive in the paint for the rebounds and tip-ins .. and he is a moderate defender .. but is he really someone to go to for those 13 to 15 foot jump shots like shareef can do ? ..

i think if martin was still with the nets right now, the nets would still have lost to the heat in the first round, not have made that trade for vc, and not have enough cash to sign shareef and mcinnis .. the reason the nets were "average" last year, because rj missed most of the year with his wrist injury .. with martin, the nets would have gotten nothing in this summer's FA market .


Posted by Viber on Jul-30-2005 00:27:

quote:
Originally posted by verndogs
it's a great deal IMO since the Nets got 3!!!! first round draft picks for him


yea but i think they traded 2 for VC and another 1 to Prtland for reef.

quote:
Originally posted by LeopoldStotch
ah .. i am not a big kenyon martin fan .. sure he is aggressive in the paint for the rebounds and tip-ins .. and he is a moderate defender .. but is he really someone to go to for those 13 to 15 foot jump shots like shareef can do ? ..

i think if martin was still with the nets right now, the nets would still have lost to the heat in the first round, not have made that trade for vc, and not have enough cash to sign shareef and mcinnis .. the reason the nets were "average" last year, because rj missed most of the year with his wrist injury .. with martin, the nets would have gotten nothing in this summer's FA market .


Shareef is an Olding SF turned into a PF - he builds mostly on Talent in oppose to Martin who"s game is more builted on Hard work - i think the Nets have enough talent and a good PF is not defined by the ability to shoot 13 to 15 foot jumpshots - just ask Donny Marshall and Antoine Walker how good is it for a PF to shoot far shoots,Martin Defence is much more important.
If Martin was with the Nets the nets whould'nt have played aginst Miami to begin with IMO - just notice that they were almost at the Eastern Finals a year before that(IN TERMS OF ABILITY).
I don't understand whats the connection between resigning Martin a year back and the VC trade...the Raps would trade Carter for nothing if they could - they just wanted to get rid of Carter's cash and attitude.

And BTW: mcinnis didnt look like such a good player at the second half of the season - mcinnis together with reef can really make the Nets's D alot weaker.
With Martin they could have had a better and younger team for the upcoming years and they also could have signed mcinnis or any other 5mil' prick this summer via free agency because of the Mid-level expansion.


Posted by verndogs on Aug-01-2005 15:56:

here's an interesting article I found on hoopshype.com about Larry Brown's style

What to expect from Brown
by Eddie Johnson / July 29, 2005

quote:
Larry Brown has done it again. He is the best coach of all time at getting out of contracts and then landing the job he really wants � this time in New York. I don't think there was any doubt that was the one he wanted and not an executive job with the Cleveland Cavaliers.

The New York Knickerbockers have become the next pit stop for Brown. He's already saying this is the final one. I am not buying it. This man loves to be wanted. He craves attention and � unlike most of us mere mortals � he is able to not only command it, but achieve it as well.

He is special. There will be no other coach like him. He is the godfather of a fraternity that makes sure everyone in his inner circle has a job. There are a few coaches that Brown does not control. Phil Jackson is one of them. But for the most part, if you look around the league, you will see a number of coaches that were tutored under Brown and rely on serious input from him on a year-round basis.

That's why he is so well respected among general manager types regardless of his ability to fall in love with another job while he is still under contract.

The Knicks are his patients now and they have been sick for sometime.

I can imagine right now that Brown is trying desperately to convince Isiah Thomas to shop Stephon Marbury after only one day on the job.

Why? Because I guess he does not want to put up with a player that stated he was the best point guard in the league despite a 33-49 record.

Brown hates me-first players. If you are not willing to play the right way, then you are a goner.

I played for Larry Brown two years with the Pacers and really had a chance to see his coaching genius. So here are 10 things Knick players need to get ready for starting in October.

1. Long and intense practices with a lot of stopping and starting so Brown can teach. Wear some warmups over your practice shorts so you can stay warm.

2. Brown will break down your attributes as a player and try to get you to change to his way. If you want to keep playing consistent minutes, I suggest you at least show that you will try to change � or else.

3. Honesty and frankness. He will look you in the eye and tell you exactly what he thinks of your game. Remember Knick players: He is the only coach in the league besides Phil Jackson and Pat Riley (if he coaches again) that can exert power equal to a superstar player. He couldn't care less about your feelings.

4. This was the most surprising part of Larry Brown. Hey, Knick players, don't miss many practices because Brown has a tendency to change offensive plays every few games. If he likes a play from an opposing team, he incorporates it into his playbook. The problem you will have if you miss practice is that he will give the new play the same number the old play had. So if you missed practice, you might be running the old play instead of the new one. That will get you to the bench in a hurry.

5. Constant barking to move the ball and to you if you are standing still for longer than three seconds. He loves players that can play without the ball. If you are to be successful on one of Brown's teams, you must be efficient by relying on your teammates.

6. Halftime rants � sometimes deafening. Brown is a human videotape machine. He remembers every single possession during a basketball game and never writes down notes. So don't think you are sneaking something pass him during a game. I had 12 coaches in my career and I never saw anybody like him.

7. The doghouse. Get use to it because everyone of you will visit it during the course of the season. If you don't believe me, go ask Reggie Miller. I saw Brown bench Reggie one time during a game without blinking. I spent about four straight games on the bench after averaging about 21 for three games prior to that. I still don't know what I did.

8. Show of emotion. This must be a Carolina thing. He will tell you at any time how much he loves you and two days later might want to ship you out. I say it's a Carolina thing because the first time I saw it was my rookie year when Carolina alum Phil Ford started bawling after missing a last-second shot to win the game. I have no problem with showing emotion, but it was the first game of the year!

9. This one is for my homeboy Zeke, who I consider one of the best general managers in the league. He will soon prove it. Lock your doors � especially after bad losses. Brown will want to trade someone that night. He is not averse to trading anyone at any given time and will chase Thomas home to convince him to do it.

10. Winning. Regardless of what you will have to put up with, Knickerbockers, it will eventually add up to wins. So be patient and enjoy the ride. It will be a ride you have not been on for a long while.

My prediction is the Knicks will make the playoffs this season based solely on the coaching of Brown. It's up to the players � especially Stephon Marbury � how far they go in the playoffs.

I can tell you one thing... Whether the players accept him or not, this is his team and he will do it his way.

Isn't that what godfathers do?

Eddie Johnson is a regular contributor to HoopsHype.com


Posted by LeopoldStotch on Aug-01-2005 18:14:

news just in ..

phoenix and atlanta are about to do a sign and trade for joe johnson .. joe johnson goes to atlanta for boris diaw and two future draft picks .. interesting transaction here . .. especially if atlanta tanks again next year like this year .


Posted by Eddie N MIAMI on Aug-01-2005 19:11:

quote:
Originally posted by verndogs
here's an interesting article I found on hoopshype.com about Larry Brown's style

What to expect from Brown
by Eddie Johnson / July 29, 2005

top notch article from an Eddie


Posted by InterMilan31 on Aug-01-2005 19:13:

please change that ciara pic!

Eddie lol an article from an Eddie HAHA

Also Im puting my neck out there but Im saying Darko for Most Improved Player award this coming year if he gets playing time or gets traded <-not a joke too! GO DARKO


Posted by LeopoldStotch on Aug-01-2005 21:21:

quote:
Originally posted by InterMilan31
please change that ciara pic!

Eddie lol an article from an Eddie HAHA

Also Im puting my neck out there but Im saying Darko for Most Improved Player award this coming year if he gets playing time or gets traded <-not a joke too! GO DARKO


.. you ripping on my girl biotch (hence my football name .. Stotch's Bitoches .. ) ..

anyways .. i don't know .. news around has it that darko is not doing so well in summer squad .. then again there is good news .. very mixed.

thread on detroit summer league squad ..

and

another link about detriot


Posted by Viber on Aug-02-2005 01:25:

you crazy Eddies i tell ya...

Btw: darko will be traded for nothing IMO,people say that after 8 minutes of running he's becoming tired and red like a whore!,Travis Outlaw will be the most improved,appearently he improved his mid-range shot a lot and he block like 2 shots every game at the summer league.


Posted by Viber on Aug-03-2005 01:12:

this is some crzy shit

new trade talks:
quote:
Heat's Jones, Celtics' Walker Included in Proposed Five-Team Deal

By Tim Reynolds
Associated Press
Tuesday, August 2, 2005; 7:25 PM

MIAMI -- Antoine Walker, Jason Williams and James Posey could soon be coming to the Miami Heat in a proposed five-team trade that was nearing completion Tuesday, according to a lawyer and league official both familiar with terms of the complicated deal.

"Unless something strange happens, it's going to happen," said the lawyer, who spoke on condition of anonymity.


As part of the Walker deal, Boston would obtain Qyntel Woods, the rights to Spanish center Albert Miralles and the Heat's $1.9 million trade exception.

The Celtics would get Borchardt from Memphis; Borchardt was part of Tuesday's earlier trade in which Sacramento acquired guard Bonzi Wells from Memphis for guard Bobby Jackson and center Greg Ostertag.

Memphis was then expected to send Ostertag to the Utah Jazz for guard Raul Lopez, forward Kirk Snyder and Borchardt. Snyder would be sent to New Orleans, along with the Heat's Rasual Butler, and Borchardt would head to Boston.




fukin amezin'!! its like teams in the league are uniting in order to make the heat the BEST team in the NBA,oh and memphis - theyre going down makin some room for the Blazers.


Posted by LeopoldStotch on Aug-03-2005 03:14:


the most f'd up trade offer i have ever seen .. looks like a merry-go-round ..

if this falls through, got to be one of the best trades of the year .


Posted by LeopoldStotch on Aug-03-2005 04:04:

the best trade ever .. seriously.
how many big names were involved in this draft ? bobby jackson ? antoine walker ? jason williams ? james posey ? rashul butler ? eddie jones ? well not big names, but known names ..

wow .. that all i have to say .. but for the hornets not giving up much .. they gave away some foreign guy, and in return got butler and curtis borchardt (stanford guy, so maybe casey jacobsen might stay ?? hope so)


Posted by Kapedano on Aug-03-2005 04:36:

Shaq signs with Miami for 5 years and get 100,000 and promises a ring.


Posted by Eddie N MIAMI on Aug-03-2005 19:53:

Im a bit skeptikal of this trade, and no its not just because my fave player was traded away.
I mean seriously guys dont you think Antoine Walker is a bit overated? First off watching his game is grueling, he just looks nasty out on the court, and I dont mean that in a good way.
His shooting scares me, he s not a great defender..he s had personal issues..
the only good i see in this is that we get one more big body who could score at most 15-20 points a game.

I like Posey, he will be what he is, a good 6th man.

J. Williams i almost completely forgot about this guy, He was cool to watch in Sacramento, but in Memphis I lost track of him.Is he still the same erratic guy?


One other thing, losing Eddie Jones we lost a great defender and a great guy, and really got no one to replace him at that.

well anyways lets see how this turns out, as of the last 2 weeks I thought we were just getting Walker and maybe williams, this deal suprised the hell out of me with the amount players in it.
Riley is one badass GM , while i may be worried about these players he got, I think im sure what Rileys doin.


Posted by Member of X on Aug-03-2005 20:06:

I always thought of Walker as a chucker, which is pretty much what he is. His FG % is usually pretty awful. But Eddie Jones was done in my opinion from watching the playoffs. I thought he was a great player in LA but that was then. Walker definitely adds more punch and girth down low. He was playing quite well for Boston once Hotlanta traded him, he rejuvanated them a bit.

J Will, White Chocolate, has always been on my crap list. He definitely has him moments and can make lots of tricky passes but the dude couldn't hit the broad side of a barn most days, commits to many TO's for a point guard, and is lazy most times on D. I never understood why Jerry West wanted him. You haven't heard much from him because he's wasn't that good. He fits into more run and gun teams, not the pound it into Shaq and Wade slash and cut team. Walker though fits in pretty well I think since he can chuck it while Snack is getting doubled and Wade is slashing.


Posted by LeopoldStotch on Aug-03-2005 23:06:

a lot of people are talking about how miami benefited from the trade and everything ..

i think they really lost two good guys (jones and rasaul butler), and gained antoine walker (who surely wouldn't be happy if he is noted as their 6th man .. remember why he left dallas .. it wasn't because of money, but because he didn't want to be the role as the 6th man ..), jason williams ( an iffy guy to me .. not a dependable guy to go to, but surely miami wouldn't come to a situation where they would depend on him for points .. a good 3 point shooter, but a horrible decision maker )

i do like james posey, and what he brings to miami ..


Posted by TigerClaw on Aug-04-2005 07:31:

At least we got Shaq for 5 more years.


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