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Posted by RebeL9 on Jul-08-2005 22:14:

yeah I agree that Sasha is very overrated. He gets MUCH more credits than he deserves. But at least he doesnt play cheese as Tiesto

Posted by nchs09 on Jul-08-2005 22:14:

it simple. tiesto is good. sasha is good. pvd is good.

stop bitching @ each other.

i personally dislike those 3 above. but doesnt take away their talent.

oh wait cheese? i dunno any cheese songs recently and back in the day. only songs got cheesy to me when they were overplayed. i can always listn to alot of cheesy tunes as poeple call them and think they are fine its just whne they are overplayed.

Posted by shades_of_gray on Jul-08-2005 22:53:

quote:
Originally posted by Aiwendil
Binary Finary - 1999 (Gouryella Rmx)
Crazy Malamute - Free To Ride (U.B.I's Fat Tire Mix)
Westbam vs Red Jerry - Wizards Of The Sonic (Matt Darey Remix)
Paul Van Dyk - Words (PvD's For Love Mix)
Hands Burn - Good Shot

fuck off you dick

Posted by Acton on Jul-08-2005 23:01:

quote:
Originally posted by shades_of_gray
fuck off you dick

fuking well agreed on that one

Posted by DJ Mikey Mike on Jul-08-2005 23:02:

Oh, now I understand.

Posted by JakeC on Jul-08-2005 23:10:

Why does Ory suddenly spring to mind?

all this arguing hasnt been seen since the days of that little bastard

Posted by aloep on Jul-08-2005 23:27:

quote:
Originally posted by JakeC
Why does Ory suddenly spring to mind?

all this arguing hasnt been seen since the days of that little bastard

Aiwendil is Radagast, if that's what you're referring to.

Posted by DJAntSmith on Jul-08-2005 23:42:

Fuck me. Seven pages of bitching! Get over it. Some people like things and some people don't.

Just to add to the debate though, PVD said in an interview that he hated when people said that stuff like Ian Van Dahl is trance. He said, and I agree with this one, that its Euro-Pop. Not trance.

So on my view, all the DJ Sammy nonsense (for me) isn't cheesey trance. It's cheesey Euro-Pop. But I suppose they're the same thing, just a different name. So what the fuck am I on about? I don't know. Shut the fuck up! Dickhead!

Posted by RebeL9 on Jul-08-2005 23:49:

quote:
Originally posted by DJAntSmith
Fuck me. Seven pages of bitching! Get over it. Some people like things and some people don't.

Just to add to the debate though, PVD said in an interview that he hated when people said that stuff like Ian Van Dahl is trance. He said, and I agree with this one, that its Euro-Pop. Not trance.

So on my view, all the DJ Sammy nonsense (for me) isn't cheesey trance. It's cheesey Euro-Pop. But I suppose they're the same thing, just a different name. So what the fuck am I on about? I don't know. Shut the fuck up! Dickhead!

in other words we can say that PVD - nothing but you is europop as well?
there are lots of similarities

Posted by Aiwendil on Jul-08-2005 23:55:

quote:
Originally posted by shades_of_gray
fuck off you dick

Cool.

Posted by DJAntSmith on Jul-08-2005 23:55:

quote:
Originally posted by RebeL9
in other words we can say that PVD - nothing but you is europop as well?
there are lots of similarities

To you yes.

I quite like the song to be honest.

But then again I'd say this was definately made as a trance record. So I'd say this was cheesey trance. Rather than Euro-pop.

I don't suppose it really matters though what u classify it as. Just whether u like it or not. I mean, if someone says to me that Out Of The Blue is cheesey trance, then it's not gonna stop me liking it. I think they're wrong, they think i'm a twat, they probably listen to someone just to be cool rather than what they like.

Posted by kr00t0n on Jul-09-2005 00:01:

Re: Examples of trance cheese

quote:
Originally posted by XRVOL
Can people post some songs they consider to be cheese

What I find funny is that if people had done what the original thread starter asked, the bitching and general kindergarden attitudes probably wouldn't have appeared.

People find different things cheesy, I happen to not find Andain - Beautiful Things cheesy at all, perhaps a tad commercial, but not a sound I equate with cheesy, which tends to be more about melodies that are 5 octaves too high and very bad lyrics.

Posted by gizzymcg on Jul-09-2005 00:02:

quote:
Originally posted by Zombie0915

more cheese trance:
Riva - Time is the healer(AvB remix)

U are smoking sumthin if u think that is cheese

Posted by JakeC on Jul-09-2005 00:07:

quote:
Originally posted by aloep
Aiwendil is Radagast, if that's what you're referring to.

hahahahahahaha

i thought it was ory or radagast...

Posted by kr00t0n on Jul-09-2005 00:10:

quote:
Originally posted by gizzymcg
U are smoking sumthin if u think that is cheese

Whilst not conventional cheese (sammy, lasgo, etc), it certainly has alot of cheesy overtones from the vocals to the melody.

Doesn't mean I don't like it.

Posted by RapidFire on Jul-09-2005 00:52:

One more to add:

Blank & Jones - Mind Of The Wonderful

Cheezplz

Posted by iammesol on Jul-09-2005 00:57:

This thread is nothing but a flame war, but i'll say

AvB - Shivers
DJ Sammy period
Scooter period

btw, to all those 'tards saying Ti�sto is commercial... what do you think Armin's weekly radio show is

Posted by Googooly on Jul-09-2005 01:14:

hahahahah tiesto is cheesy??!! hahahahah I bet you wont say that if you listen to him live! yes he migh have some cheesy tunes but who CARES!!!! hes not the BEST DJ in the world but he surly is in top 10!

and as for cheesy tracks

Special D - 1,2,3 or sometihng
+ ALOT of vocals

Posted by Icesotope on Jul-09-2005 01:18:

what makes a track cheezy in the first place?

Overplayed?....
Too Commercialize?
Too little Effort on the song??
Personal Opinion?
Too much vocals?

At least gimme a proper defination so i can answer it

Posted by Googooly on Jul-09-2005 01:22:

quote:
Originally posted by Icesotope
what makes a track cheezy in the first place?

Overplayed?....
Too Commercialize?
Too little Effort on the song??
Personal Opinion?
Too much vocals?

At least gimme a proper defination so i can answer it

Defenatly too much vocals with STUPID lyrics, like "i want to fly with you in heaven now" or "lets build a castle in the sky" and such

I don't see anything wrong with too Commercialize to be honest.

Posted by kr00t0n on Jul-09-2005 01:24:

quote:
Originally posted by Googooly
I don't see anything wrong with too Commercialize to be honest.

You cut n pasted that didn't you?

Posted by Googooly on Jul-09-2005 01:26:

quote:
Originally posted by kr00t0n
You cut n pasted that didn't you?

ahahahahahaha you crack me up mate

and yes i did...ok ok im crap at spelling lol ;p

Posted by DJ Mikey Mike on Jul-09-2005 01:40:

quote:
Originally posted by Googooly
hes not the BEST DJ in the world but he surly is in top 10!

No.

Posted by miamitranceman on Jul-09-2005 01:48:

quote:
Originally posted by D-res
you're a fuckin ignorant idiot for now knowing that simply, what is commercial, is cheesy. Tiesticle played before 6,000,000,000 people at the fucking olympics. if you dont call that commercial, you probably shouldnt have graduated the 3rd grade out of pure stupidity.

that being said, even i like a few songs by him or.. whoever he payed to produce the songs. anyway.. cheese:

dj sammy
groove coverage
scooter
green court
ian van dahl

actually... pretty much any "uplifting" or vocal trance is considered cheesy but i'll just stick to the above mentioned as.. the cheesiest of teh cheese

Says you.

Posted by aloep on Jul-09-2005 02:14:

quote:
Originally posted by Googooly
hahahahah tiesto is cheesy??!! hahahahah I bet you wont say that if you listen to him live! yes he migh have some cheesy tunes but who CARES!!!! hes not the BEST DJ in the world but he surly is in top 10!

and as for cheesy tracks

Special D - 1,2,3 or sometihng
+ ALOT of vocals

That should be your top 10. There is no universal fact about who are the top 10 DJ's that everyone will agree on.

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