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Originally posted by Simcut 2) One central site should be created that links to Audiojelly and others

agree. + rss support and i'd be in love

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Originally posted by Simcut The tracks on the CDs fade in and out, which is a bloody good move if you ask me.

disagree. most labels want dj's to actually play their tunes and a track that fades in and out is completely unplayable.. of course.

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Originally posted by andreas1999 disagree. most labels want dj's to actually play their tunes and a track that fades in and out is completely unplayable.. of course.

Nah its not mate, DJ's mix tracks in and out, only the first seconds and last seconds of the songs are faded out....

I have to admit I am really interested in persuing with a central site like Kelkoo as a database for all online mp3 stores, a search engine for Legal trance mp3 and where to find them....

anybody who's done a little bit of mixing will tell you why that idea is bad.

actually i will.. the dj won't be able to beatmatch properly if the first 2� bars are missing from the track. it would still be possible but it would mean the dj now have to find the start of the next 4x4 bars so the mix won't be a complete mess.

but this is a bit off topic, though.

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Originally posted by ahp2002 BTW, isnt it 100 times cooler to play/spin a tune, that no-one else has?

No.

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Originally posted by Magnetonium No.

it makes me laugh when thats all people have to say, and they make a point of putting a blunt full stop straight after it!

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Originally posted by Magnetonium No.

come on..? i'm no expert on dj's but it seems to me like a lot of dj's (probably most dj's) base their whole dj career around exclusives and not mixing skills..

andreas I disagree mate.....

I disagree on DJ's of today just spinning exclusive shit and nothing else, thats just rubbish !

yeah well i would hardly tune in to essential selection, or any similar show on radio 1, if it wasn't for the newest unreleased tunes.

but yes, in a club it's a bit different i guess..

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Originally posted by Simcut andreas I disagree mate..... I disagree on DJ's of today just spinning exclusive shit and nothing else, thats just rubbish !

well I know that some dj's don't spin a track, even if its killer, cause another DJ already plays it... Ofcourse not all the DJ's play exclusive stuff only... but it's the exclusive stuff in a set that distincts you from the rest of the jocks huh..

Isnt it a shame thats the way things work? its not all about having the newest shit.... its about having the best tune selection, crowd pleasers, classics etc.

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Originally posted by Simcut Isnt it a shame thats the way things work? its not all about having the newest shit.... its about having the best tune selection, crowd pleasers, classics etc.

no, that's not a shame at all...

What about an audio watermark that'll record companies can add to tracks before they send out there promo lists, then if a tune does get released they'll be able to identify who the person was?

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Originally posted by andreas1999 no, that's not a shame at all...

You misunderstood me, I meant its a shame that it doesnt matter so much about tune selection, crowd pleasers etc and instead is all about having the latest shit, that isnt good imho.

yes, getting unrealesed stuff sux, it sometimes causes bad subsequences,
tho' about leaking over tunes or how bad that is, look, lots of VERY good stuff, not only trance, aren't realesed in some countries, people can't get'em, even if they're realesed not all people have these fat wallets like most of you do (or it seems so) -> they can't buy it -> they leech it.

i think i would buy more online stuff if

a) it was released on a website the same day (probably earlier) it arrived in shops.

b) there was an internet site out there listing all releases.

i think we'll see a site like that eventually but right now all the companies are fighting for the users. maybe in a couple of months..

point A would probably mean faster p2p spreading and in better quality (no lame 15 year old trying to eq that vinyl he just ripped for his c001 mp3 group).

this is a very interesting topic and i'd hate to see the conversation end so soon, so i'll just spam this pointless reply here to bump this thread up!



and i think mp3s are cool. i own almost 1000 cds. before i started downloading tunes and finding out stuff i really like i had about 20 cds or so.

but i do agree that leaking unreleased/unsigned tunes is very fucking gay indeed.

oh who gives a shit. it doesn't make me want to buy something any more or less just because it's leaked.

everything from movies to music gets leaked. did lord of the rings bomb? no, and a dvd screener was out about a month before hand on the net.

i'm so sure that love theme dusk won't sell, i mean it was leaked right so it must hurt the sales something fierce

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Originally posted by Blue. everything from movies to music gets leaked. did lord of the rings bomb? no, and a dvd screener was out about a month before hand on the net.

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Originally posted by Blue. i'm so sure that love theme dusk won't sell, i mean it was leaked right so it must hurt the sales something fierce

no it wasnt

and

yes it will

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Originally posted by DRM no it wasnt and yes it will

oh, so that's why I watched it 2 weeks before it was released.

thanks tips.

PS: turn your sarcasm detector back on asshat, if the smiley didn't give away the sarcasm or it did and you still felt like putting in your two cents then you're an idiot.

Take the central mp3 downloading site idea...and combine with this:

stop giving out promo's. If u have a promo ready and you want to promote it...put it on the site and charge more for it...lower the price to standards when it hits retail. How many people are gonna say "I payed extra $ for this track so i can leak it...im fucken l337!". This gives aspiring dj's a fair chance with the "big boys". People who buy music just to listen to it get it at retail and the dj's who wanna fork up extra money for a Promo can get it. There is going to be more creative flow among dj's...more collabs..blah blah blah...if there is more creativity networking...i believe shitty productions won't make it.

I always say, if there arent enough talented dj's or producers in the scene, its becuase there arent enough people hearing it.

I used to lack morals.




Still do.

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Originally posted by andreas1999 anybody who's done a little bit of mixing will tell you why that idea is bad. actually i will.. the dj won't be able to beatmatch properly if the first 2� bars are missing from the track. it would still be possible but it would mean the dj now have to find the start of the next 4x4 bars so the mix won't be a complete mess.

Since most progressive and trance tracks are stretched out for lightyears, especially intros and outros, I don't think it'll be a problem for a proper DJ. With techno / minimal, tracks are mostly structured in such a way that it's no problem at all to get into it a few beats later either.

Slightly more on topic, I still don't see why everybody gets their panties in a bunch about getting the newest tracks asap. There are so many more not so recent goodies out there that are far more worth getting. You can stand out as a DJ just as well by playing those tunes, instead of 'unreleased' stuff everybody will be playing the next week anyway. Personally, I love hearing a DJ play an older tune (not one that's been played to death, of course) that's special to him, and should be to the crowd he's playing for (in terms of bringing back memories and evoking reactions / emotions). F*ck being upfront, start getting personal.

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Originally posted by basd Slightly more on topic, I still don't see why everybody gets their panties in a bunch about getting the newest tracks asap. There are so many more not so recent goodies out there that are far more worth getting. You can stand out as a DJ just as well by playing those tunes, instead of 'unreleased' stuff everybody will be playing the next week anyway. Personally, I love hearing a DJ play an older tune (not one that's been played to death, of course) that's special to him, and should be to the crowd he's playing for (in terms of bringing back memories and evoking reactions / emotions). F*ck being upfront, start getting personal.

in-fucking-deed!

+1

Interesting topic indeed.

Here are my thoughts on leaking.

I don't appreciate rippers trying to get reputation in the "scene" by releasing up and coming artist's work. That is just wrong.

Also, I don't appreciate big time DJ/Producer who kept their stuff for anywhere from 2-3 years then release it. Cough Cough PVD for example. If the crowd likes it then release it damn it.

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