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Posted by Ang ' ela_ie on Aug-03-2005 19:30:

Posted by Floorfiller on Aug-03-2005 19:32:

well how i see it...when i'm with a girl, i'm not trying to win...its not a competition. like all of this pretend you are busy crap...what is that? i'd rather just be straight up about stuff...

Posted by Ang ' ela_ie on Aug-03-2005 19:33:

Thats why I you, Jason.

Posted by Zombie0729 on Aug-03-2005 20:02:

quote:
Originally posted by Floorfiller
well how i see it...when i'm with a girl, i'm not trying to win...its not a competition. like all of this pretend you are busy crap...what is that? i'd rather just be straight up about stuff...

Jason,

go after the girl you've had the longest crush on. go after the girl you've felt so physically attracted to for the last couple years.

let me know where you stand. it sucks you guys are putting down ideas because you've NEVER heard them before. the idea i gave him about being busy is because really attractive girls are inendated with guys that are willing to give up everything for them the second they get the chance.

make yourself worthy, make a girl want you, make a girl chase you. quit taking such submissive roles in a relationship! it will get you no where and no one will be happy.

if you lived near me i'd bring you out tonight. i would be able to physically prove to you a multitude of ideals you probably won't understand without me talking about the pyschology behind.

look at your life right now. because when i looked back on mine, i hated the fact that i dated the same type of girl all the time because i realized it was the type i was attracting. i hated being stuck in a spot where i didn't know how to better myself.

if anything i'm applying ideas in this thread to help guys out who don't "get it" . you can write me if you have any questions. @email.com

Posted by Orbax on Aug-03-2005 20:03:

if women knew what they wanted there wouldnt be 30 magazines out every single month telling them

DJar is right for the most part. You dont really 'ignore' women you just have to be the kind of vague guy and they gotta try to catch your attention. Then you let them know their efforts are working.

its a 2 way street and both people get bored with it pretty quick if the status quo where youre both super duper and sexy all the time is ok with you. They just dribble off because no one is trying any more because theyre both just fine.

At least thats been my experience. I sit there and just get BORED because they dont try to act flirty, cute, and fun any more. They think they got you.

Ive been having to seriously revamp my "nice guy" approach because its been an abysmal failure time after time.

When a girl says "im thirsty" i usually just get her a cup of water I dont really say anything, its just kind of part of my treatment of women. Its not an incident to me, but theyre always shocked. Which means most people ARENT doing that...which is weird to me. But then again...those are the guys they are in relationships with so ...

Posted by est on Aug-03-2005 20:09:

quote:
Originally posted by Floorfiller
well how i see it...when i'm with a girl, i'm not trying to win...its not a competition. like all of this pretend you are busy crap...what is that? i'd rather just be straight up about stuff...

Now guys like this are few ad far between. Usually, the woman says 'we need to talk'. He switches off and nods head periodically, then says 'yes, you're right, let's do that'. Then carry on behaving as he did in the first place. Back to square one...

You're right Ross, a lot of guys are over-influenced by their mums. They're easy to spot - EVERYTHING that she asks of him is 'nagging'. A simple, straight request e.g. 'Help me with the washing up please' to these guys is totally unreasonable and therefore nagging.

As for compliments some people (not me) find it difficult/ embarassing to accept a compliment. Or, she may really think you're lying just to make her feel better. Like when my mate went bald when she was getting chemotherapy and her bf told her she looked beautiful - pissed her off cos she clearly looked her worst ever.

Posted by Floorfiller on Aug-03-2005 20:12:

quote:
Originally posted by Zombie0729
Jason,

go after the girl you've had the longest crush on. go after the girl you've felt so physically attracted to for the last couple years.

let me know where you stand. it sucks you guys are putting down ideas because you've NEVER heard them before. the idea i gave him about being busy is because really attractive girls are inendated with guys that are willing to give up everything for them the second they get the chance.

make yourself worthy, make a girl want you, make a girl chase you. quit taking such submissive roles in a relationship! it will get you no where and no one will be happy.

if you lived near me i'd bring you out tonight. i would be able to physically prove to you a multitude of ideals you probably won't understand without me talking about the pyschology behind.

look at your life right now. because when i looked back on mine, i hated the fact that i dated the same type of girl all the time because i realized it was the type i was attracting. i hated being stuck in a spot where i didn't know how to better myself.

if anything i'm applying ideas in this thread to help guys out who don't "get it" . you can write me if you have any questions. @email.com

see

i know exactly what you're saying because i'm a smart guy and i am certain that it works...what i'm saying is that women play stupid games a lot and really i don't feel like i have to play them to keep a girlfriend or to trick her into thinking i'm something i'm not. i'm not putting down what you're saying at all...i'm just saying that i'm sure they work, but how can you establish a real relationship on pretending to be something that you're not? i've dated lots of types of girls and i've been attracted to lots of types of girls and i've never had any real reason to try and pretend i'm too busy or something like that to make them like me more. if anything i think that its guys that think that like that have turned a large majority of women into man eaters that do all the same things they've had done to them.

what i think it all really comes down to is be confident, show them you love them, and don't be overly needy...

maybe that's what you're trying to get at, but its a choice someone has to make not something they can pretend to do...

Posted by Masonious on Aug-03-2005 20:26:

I suppose that before I take female advice from men, I need to see the smoking hot women their advice has attracted to them.

Otherwise it's like getting health and workout tips from scrawny bitches / fat asses.

Posted by Mr. Pink on Aug-03-2005 20:38:

quote:
Originally posted by Zombie0729
make yourself worthy, make a girl want you, make a girl chase you. quit taking such submissive roles in a relationship!

this is something i agree with.

Being an overly needy guy can lead to your ultimate destruction. You have to maintain your own entity while being with a woman. She needs to know that you are doing your thing, but you're also happy to be with her.

like jason is talkin about, show her you care.....and so on.

but playing the submissive role isn't how it should be. You either have a low self esteem or a small pen0r

play it equally, i guess that's me being idealistic. But the closer to the middle a relationship is, the better.

Posted by Floorfiller on Aug-03-2005 20:55:

well i agree with that too javi. i guess all i'm saying is that don't pretend to be something. if people have nothing to talk about its because you're sitting at a job you hate and talking online all day sort of like me hahaha . you can't pretend you're this cool, busy person, who enjoys to spend time with a girl when you get a chance...you have to become that person.

Posted by Vivid Boy on Aug-03-2005 20:55:

are u calling me gay?

Posted by Zombie0729 on Aug-03-2005 21:25:

Jason,

you're only looking at the words i'm typing. you can't see me present this infront of you. i want you to get more of your life going, be more active, more aggressive. This isn't just about me telling you how to pick up women.

Like i said, its an ideology. Take your life to the next step with this stuff

Anthony

Posted by Mr. Pink on Aug-03-2005 21:30:

quote:
Originally posted by Zombie0729
Jason,

you're only looking at the words i'm typing. you can't see me present this infront of you. i want you to get more of your life going, be more active, more aggressive. This isn't just about me telling you how to pick up women.

Like i said, its an ideology. Take your life to the next step with this stuff

Anthony

hey, i need a pep talk too!

dont leave all the good, solid advice for just him!

Posted by NiteMer on Aug-03-2005 21:36:

Posted by Ibizadreamer AG on Aug-03-2005 21:52:

Posted by Slylee on Aug-03-2005 21:57:

i'm so sick of ppl saying that a little hard to get is "playing games" or "mind fucking" ....it is NOT. my god...it's human nature to enjoy a little chase or to have some things not answered right away and be intrigued by it.

u dont have to LIE constantly and act like something ur not....

just dont be desperate...dont return calls right after they call...it's just playin it cool a little in the beginning as u feel each other out, that's all.

but yea, once u pretty much figure out that u both are diggin each other, then i say it's cool to get a little comfortable and call them when u feel like it, instead of holding back.

Posted by Xenocreator_PG_ on Aug-03-2005 21:59:

quote:
Originally posted by Slylee
i'm so sick of ppl saying that a little hard to get is "playing games" or "mind fucking" ....it is NOT. my god...it's human nature to enjoy a little chase or to have some things not answered right away and be intrigued by it.

u dont have to LIE constantly and act like something ur not....

just dont be desperate...dont return calls right after they call...it's just playin it cool a little in the beginning as u feel each other out, that's all.

but yea, once u pretty much figure out that u both are diggin each other, then i say it's cool to get a little comfortable and call them when u feel like it, instead of holding back.

Fuck that, first date should lead to sex 24/7

Posted by shades_of_gray on Aug-03-2005 22:02:

quote:
Originally posted by Zombie0729

make yourself worthy, make a girl want you, make a girl chase you. quit taking such submissive roles in a relationship![/email]

i agree with this too, one of my mates fell for this girl, she did like him also......but after a time he would start to do everything and anything for her.....she started realised this, and took advantage, he started becomming her lap dog, and door mat and she just trampled all over him, and cheated on him and when he found out made him feel like a piece of shit

but dont be to dependant on the girl, or 100% devoted, cos a majority of them will try to use it........unless your both sure that u really like eachother or whatever

Posted by Floorfiller on Aug-03-2005 22:20:

quote:
Originally posted by Slylee
bla bla blablabla bla bla

did you guys here something?

just kidding. and i completely agree jamie...i think the chase is definitely a great thing...but i know lots of girls that actually do play lots of games with men and i think i've learned i don't really care about that anymore, i'm just gonna be me and they are gonna like it or not...nothing wrong with some chase though that's for sure...

Posted by Psy-T on Aug-03-2005 22:27:

orbax, make a bit more sense in your writings and they'll be awesome, nice posts in this thread so far

Posted by Carriegsxr6 on Aug-03-2005 22:31:

It goes both ways out in the dating world. Both guys and girls can play games.
However, I find it that the nice guys and nice girls are the only ones complaining that they cant hang.
Therefore, nice guys and nice girls should just go find other nice guys and nice girls. That way everyone stayes on the same page.
Dont be with a bad ass of you arent

Posted by Vivid Boy on Aug-03-2005 22:33:

quote:
Originally posted by Carriegsxr6
It goes both ways out in the dating world. Both guys and girls can play games.
However, I find it that the nice guys and nice girls are the only ones complaining that they cant hang.
Therefore, nice guys and nice girls should just go find other nice guys and nice girls. That way everyone stayes on the same page.
Dont be with a bad ass of you arent

*pulls up on a chopper*

thats right bitch. lets ride!

*peels off into the sunset*

Posted by Carriegsxr6 on Aug-03-2005 22:36:

quote:
Originally posted by Vivid Boy
*pulls up on a chopper*

thats right bitch. lets ride!

*peels off into the sunset*

Lets roll big daddy, I can be your old lady

Posted by Vivid Boy on Aug-03-2005 22:38:

and i can be ur snoogy woogins

Posted by Estella on Aug-03-2005 22:38:

hahaahh you're hilarious.

I personally like the feeling of being shat on. Shit? It makes me yearn even more! Of course, that's only some deranged, psychological downfall. I hate people who can play games and do it so suavely. Screw them for being so malicious with your and my hearts. And damn it for me always falling so gracefully into their traps. How do they do it? Will pay for lessons.

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