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Originally posted by mezzir lol and they don't definately by no means scientology, such fucking bullshit i think christianity is bullshit...don't get me started on shit like scientology i was raised with no real religion mother was catholic although not huge on it or anything, and my dad was quaker quarkerism(?) is actually pretty good from all i've been reading about founded on tolerance etc blablabla, but the key beliefs (of certain sects of course), is that everyone has an inner spirit said to reflect the light of christ. while i don't believe in christ really, it still hints more towards the idea that humans are the divine, not fictional god figures personally, i'd say i lean towards buddhism or quakerism

Quakers are funny cause they don't believe in reproducing themselves apparently ..... so every year they like all dissapear

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Originally post3d bbyy josh4 I was raised jewish! hey a jew in france, thats rare

What kind of ignorant statement is that?

There's plenty well not that much but they're actually all fleeing back to the promise land

jewish by birth
nondescript by nature


and to the thread starter, what does make one person better than another if not his beliefs, his likes/dislikes, his intelligence and his talent?

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Originally posted by josh4 I was raised jewish! hey a jew in france, thats rare

i don't think so, there's 70k jews in France

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Originally posted by josh4 well i really dont know first hand maybe its not so true nowadays but i was under the impression there werent that many left in Europe after WWII

I'm under the impression that you're a thorough fucking idiot.

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Originally posted by Psy-T and to the thread starter, what does make one person better than another if not his beliefs, his likes/dislikes, his intelligence and his talent?

let me answer this one.

one person cannot be better than another person.

one can be more inteligent than another.
one can be more attractive to the opposite sex than another.
one can be more talented in a certain area than another.
etc. (and these are relative as well).

one person, as a whole, cannot be 'better' than another. and certainly what you choose to believe about the unknown does not make you better or worse than someone who believes differen't (well excluding creationists , althought that's not really an unknown).

if you are serious with this question, than you've got issues my friend.

By principle, the censuses in religious matter are prohibited in France. One of the studies being taken in this field is that carried out every three years by institute CSA. In 2004, the investigation into a sample of 18 068 people, indicates that 27 % of the French are declared atheistic and 64,3 % catholic (69 % in 2001), that is to say approximately 30 million adults compared with only 4 million adults for all the other religions.

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Originally posted by djmetatron let me answer this one. one person cannot be better than another person. one can be more inteligent than another. one can be more attractive to the opposite sex than another. one can be more talented in a certain area than another. etc. (and these are relative as well). one person, as a whole, cannot be 'better' than another. and certainly what you choose to believe about the unknown does not make you better or worse than someone who believes differen't (well excluding creationists , althought that's not really an unknown). if you are serious with this question, than you've got issues my friend.

being more intelligent, and more talented, and more open minded, et cetera, makes one person better than another in my opinion.


did my last post make you think less of me?
if so, then my traits (and especially my beliefs) have made you see me as a lesser person.
in other words, if that last sentece is correct, you're a hypocrite.

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Originally posted by AlphaStarred I'm under the impression that you're a thorough fucking idiot.

+1
You have to laugh at his comment though, and I don't mean with,I mean at.
Made me chuckle.

haha, no, just because you've got issues about status and self worth does not make you lesser than me. I'll say it again, you can be particularly better in an area (many areas for that matter) but it doesn't make you a better person/soul/spirit whatever.

i suppose if you want to look at things from a superficial perspective, than yes, you could say what your saying, i suppose. but even then things get very relative. a person could be very goodlooking, intelligent, talented etc. but still be a raging asshole. is he still better than the guy who flunked school and doesn't have standard good looks but is a caring person with many friends? And even intelligence itself is very relative; you could be well educated but still be a dense n00blar when it comes to, say, interpersonal relationships.

there are many gauges used to rank human aspects, but it's not as if these gauges can be added up for one final guage of worthyness as a human being; being that most of the gauges are flawed and useless anyway.

so to say that certain attributes/beliefs/talents make you a better person is quite a naive statement. but that doesn't make you a lesser person.

I i were the thread maker i would just delete this thread as it leads to nowhere and its making alot of argument already, besides whats more boring than rligion??!!

do us a fav and take this shit away!

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Originally posted by djmetatron haha, no, just because you've got issues about status and self worth does not make you lesser than me. I'll say it again, you can be particularly better in an area (many areas for that matter) but it doesn't make you a better person/soul/spirit whatever. i suppose if you want to look at things from a superficial perspective, than yes, you could say what your saying, i suppose. but even then things get very relative. a person could be very goodlooking, intelligent, talented etc. but still be a raging asshole. is he still better than the guy who flunked school and doesn't have standard good looks but is a caring person with many friends? And even intelligence itself is very relative; you could be well educated but still be a dense n00blar when it comes to, say, interpersonal relationships. there are many gauges used to rank human aspects, but it's not as if these gauges can be added up for one final guage of worthyness as a human being; being that most of the gauges are flawed and useless anyway. so to say that certain attributes/beliefs/talents make you a better person is quite a naive statement. but that doesn't make you a lesser person.

if i'm better than you in most fields, i'm not generally better than you?

do the math.

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Originally posted by Psy-T if i'm better than you in most fields, i'm not generally better than you? do the math.

:dense:

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Originally posted by djmetatron :dense:

heh, not that good with math?

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Originally posted by Psy-T heh, not that good with math?

you've lost the plot man. dank you, gum again.

Measures of worth i.e. "better" are always opinions. Since, in my opinion, my opinion is more credible than anyone else's, and given that my opinion is that I'm better than everybody else, I can conclude that I am indeed better than everybody else by the only standard worth using.

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Originally posted by Arbiter Measures of worth i.e. "better" are always opinions. Since, in my opinion, my opinion is more credible than anyone else's, and given that my opinion is that I'm better than everybody else, I can conclude that I am indeed better than everybody else by the only standard worth using.

why simplify it?
if they can't understand it, it's their own problem.

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Originally posted by Googooly I i were the thread maker i would just delete this thread as it leads to nowhere and its making alot of argument already, besides whats more boring than rligion??!! do us a fav and take this shit away!

REDICULAUSE!!!!!!!!!!!111111111ONEONEONE

best thing you could do is shut the fuck up & find a forum that doesn't allow people freedom of speech before you try & go all nazi on us telling us what should or should not be on the boards. If you were a respected member then maybe we'd listen, but you're not. not now, not ever

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Originally posted by SID133 or something like that

Wrong. Satanism is not worship of the Devil. That's something entirely different. The name, Satan, was around before it was used in religious texts. Satan is a nature spirit in Satanism, he has nothing to do with Heaven or Hell.

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Originally posted by AlphaStarred I'm under the impression that you're a thorough fucking idiot.

I would like to take this opportunity to second this motion

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Originally posted by Psy-T why simplify it? if they can't understand it, it's their own problem.

you're not getting it. you seriously asked the thread started that "if a person's beliefs cannot be used to gauge whether someone is better than another, then what can?

What Arbiter basically said is: I think I'm better than everyone else and that's because I'm me and I use the 'me' gauge. The 'me' gauge says I'm better. I'd have to agree in my case as well.

You on the other hand have said nothing of value as yet.

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Originally posted by djmetatron you're not getting it. you seriously asked the thread started that "if a person's beliefs cannot be used to gauge whether someone is better than another, then what can? What Arbiter basically said is: I think I'm better than everyone else and that's because I'm me and I use the 'me' gauge. The 'me' gauge says I'm better. I'd have to agree in my case as well. You on the other hand have said nothing of value as yet.

i know what arbiter said has nothing to do with what i said.

you on the other hand missed the idea behind my last post in this thread.

it was said in sarcasm, just as every other post i made here bar the first, and that's all i'm gonna say about it.

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Originally posted by Ian^ REDICULAUSE!!!!!!!!!!!111111111ONEONEONE best thing you could do is shut the fuck up & find a forum that doesn't allow people freedom of speech before you try & go all nazi on us telling us what should or should not be on the boards. If you were a respected member then maybe we'd listen, but you're not. not now, not ever

aaaahhh so true.

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Originally posted by Ian^ I would like to take this opportunity to second this motion

I already +1'd it,therefore you third it.

IM an LDS ... Meaning, A Latter Day Saint .. from the Church of Jesus Christ and Latter Day Saints.. also known as Mormons by Nick name.

There's as many Anti-LDS or Anti-Mormons as there is Anti-Jews this days... so I wouldnt be surprise if any of you attempt to bash, criticize or hurt my beliefs... Ive read a lot of crap ( fake to say the least )..against it.. but hey, not scared to hide it. :-)

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Originally posted by LiquidX IM an LDS ... Meaning, A Latter Day Saint .. from the Church of Jesus Christ and Latter Day Saints.. also known as Mormons by Nick name. There's as many Anti-LDS or Anti-Mormons as there is Anti-Jews this days... so I wouldnt be surprise if any of you attempt to bash, criticize or hurt my beliefs... Ive read a lot of crap ( fake to say the least )..against it.. but hey, not scared to hide it. :-)

If people kept coming to your door and pissing you off, you wouldn't like them either.

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