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Posted by Ghostface on Aug-21-2005 10:38:

lol, sounds like there are some very childish DJs round.

I thought of one recently. I've played sets after the headliner recently at clubs, and I think it's etiquette to let them go until they stop. If they want to play one more, you don't argue. I think it's important to remember who the crowd have come to see.


Posted by shades_of_gray on Aug-21-2005 11:02:

quote:
Originally posted by Chris Larkin
Here's Oaky doing the Jesus, from Crasher in 2000:




what an awesome picture.......who cares if they do this

it shows there interactung a little bit and not got there head staring at the mixer all the way through a set........i dont think most dj's could resist doing this if they played a record with an amazing breakdown.........ie Chiller Twist - Stringz Unlimited



Oakey used to just turn off the turntables after the warm up dj's record and let it slowly grind to a halt so it sounds like a power cut

Quote Paul Oakenfold

"ill have 1500 people infront of me, and ill turn off the turntables and just stand there, everyones looking an thinking 'what the fucks going on'!? i want all the attention on me, so everyone knows, now we are going to start something DIFFERENT, the first record sets the pace, the rhythm, the direction, now im going to take u where i WANT to take you"


Posted by Abhay on Aug-21-2005 12:10:

quote:
Originally posted by Nikolas Vaughn


you could be a wizard at home, but playing out.. itll b way different


Dude, quit fucking scaring me.... I pwn at home


what makes u say that???



Oh yeah.... the thread.....


trainwrecking...


Posted by Zild on Aug-21-2005 13:48:

I don't really understand how you can be a wizard at home, but suck in public. I find it to be the contrary. Sure I get the shakes during the first mix, but doesn't everyone? After that though I see people grooving to my tunes, so it sends my DJing into another level. You have to be able to feed off the crowd, or on slow nights the 40 people standing around buying drinks. I play better to an audience.


Posted by KristineClub on Aug-22-2005 03:08:

quote:
Originally posted by Zild
I play better to an audience.


ditto


Posted by Rebel Brown on Aug-24-2005 13:00:

quote:
Originally posted by shades_of_gray
Quote Paul Oakenfold

"ill have 1500 people infront of me, and ill turn off the turntables and just stand there, everyones looking an thinking 'what the fucks going on'!? i want all the attention on me, so everyone knows, now we are going to start something DIFFERENT, the first record sets the pace, the rhythm, the direction, now im going to take u where i WANT to take you"



I like this quote.


Posted by Freak on Aug-24-2005 13:57:

Morillo does something similar- he loops a few bars of a track and leaves it running for ages just to get people attention when he is starting his set.

Used to be a mainstay of the old rave/hardcore scene too- they would often start from silence to give impact


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Aug-24-2005 14:09:

quote:
Originally posted by Nemesis44
There are a ton of things that you should and shouldn't do with regards to other DJs that I have not seen anyone cover in this thread, which I guess would have been the point nes pas?

Does anyone actually care to bring up some points that have any value?

Nem


no, but id like to hear what you think

quote:
Originally posted by dj chex
A important one, arriving late or too early.


too early? i dont think so. i reckon a good, non superstar dj should always get a feel for the nght and whats been played etc thus they should arrive whenever they feel like it. they can chill and listen to some tunes. the night's not all about them


Posted by Nemesis44 on Aug-24-2005 15:26:

quote:
Originally posted by Nemesis44
DJ Taboos... hmmm.. let me think.

Stealing time from another DJ... No better way to make yourself unpopular. Always comunicate with other DJs.

Don't try and jump on early... so above.

Don't stop the last track of the previous DJ as soon as you come on.

Don't disrespect your timeslot. DJ's a clubbers alike will hate you for it.

Don't get pissed at other DJ's or blame people in the booth if you had a shit set unless something they were doing actually interfered with your mixing. (i.e. start unplugging the mixer half way through my set just to hook up your laptops for a sound check ('It came from the sea'... Nice blokes but didn't help me much he he ).

Don't start telling other DJs what to play.

Don't comment on another DJs mixing saying that's a bit out when it's not.

Don't comment on another DJs mixing saying it's out when it is. He has a job to do and will either learn from the experience or correct it as he probably (Well hopefully) heard it before you did.

As for playing tracks from the same producer back to back... if it's making the people move and be happy then you would be a fool not to do so. Chances are that a lot of the people in the place wouldn't know it's the same producer anyway.

Cheers
Nem


He he, did post earlier but it got lost in the really important debate about the Jesus pose... Can't actually believe that people get so emotional about it.
But these are just a few things that I personally find are no no's.

Cheers
Nem


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Aug-24-2005 23:53:

quote:
Originally posted by Nemesis44
Don't disrespect your timeslot. DJ's a clubbers alike will hate you for it.


hmmm. how do you combat this? do you wait a few (hundred) years til you actually really like that 10pm minimal progressive electro, or do you just make sure your demos are representative of your style(s)??

only asking coz im a 140 bpm epic trance slut, and awfully worried about looking like super amateur guy you can only play what you like after all.....


Posted by Allied Nations on Aug-25-2005 01:05:

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
hmmm. how do you combat this? do you wait a few (hundred) years til you actually really like that 10pm minimal progressive electro, or do you just make sure your demos are representative of your style(s)??

only asking coz im a 140 bpm epic trance slut, and awfully worried about looking like super amateur guy you can only play what you like after all.....




im not flaming, i just want to know what you mean? until you ctually start to enjoy prog electro mininal? or til its on at the club? im not flaming or being rude, but i think whatever your point is it may have some merit,. i just dont get it.


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Aug-25-2005 01:21:

haha, im not even sure if thats a real genre

what i mean is, a good dj has a wide taste in music and can pick a good crate for any timeslot. im not. i only like trance. i hate everything else. and if the trance moves too far towards prog, or really hard trance, i hate it too

so im asking for advice re nem\'s comment \"Don\'t disrespect your timeslot. DJ\'s and clubbers alike will hate you for it.\"


Posted by davemolina on Aug-25-2005 01:39:

I think I know where you're going with that.

I am kind of in the same boat you are because of my taste in Trance. Even if you're a 140 bpm slut, you'll still have tracks that buildup to the peak stuff (I'm sure you don't come out banging it out). You should just play more of that stuff.

If you don't have more buildup stuff, you'll eventually get it over time. How long have you been DJing? If you're newer to it (less than a year), then you'll see more of it as your collection grows : )


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Aug-25-2005 02:05:

quote:
Originally posted by davemolina
If you don't have more buildup stuff, you'll eventually get it over time. How long have you been DJing? If you're newer to it (less than a year), then you'll see more of it as your collection grows : )


hehe. im still in the bedroom. 17 months or so of bedrooming i own about 90 records. 150 odd tunes. and yeah, theyre mostly bangers vinyl is expensive. im not gonna buy stuff i dont love if i can help it. i *do* have a few, lower tempo trancers i like. but i can hardly play the same tunes everytime!!

can you just pitch everything down??


Posted by davemolina on Aug-25-2005 02:38:

You can, but it still retains a very busy element to it.

I do know where you are coming from, trust me and I think by the time you make the jump to playing out, you'll have some good tracks to get you through it.


Posted by Zack Roth on Aug-25-2005 02:40:

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
hehe. im still in the bedroom. 17 months or so of bedrooming i own about 90 records. 150 odd tunes. and yeah, theyre mostly bangers vinyl is expensive. im not gonna buy stuff i dont love if i can help it. i *do* have a few, lower tempo trancers i like. but i can hardly play the same tunes everytime!!

can you just pitch everything down??


honestly, I see where you're coming from but you need more diversity in your record bag. When I first started buying vinyl all I did was buy trance bombs and then it occured to me, what the hell would I play if I opened up a night. Since then my tastes have changed a lot and I never really get higher than about 133 BPMs. But if all you play is like 140 BPM hard or epic trance, you're gonna be very very limited in where and when you can play. No one wants to walk into a club at 11:00 and hear NU NRG tracks.


Posted by KristineClub on Aug-25-2005 02:43:

^^^ What he said. You should expand your horizons. I also started buying only trance records but you must embrace progressive. Slow those records down a bit, you'll appreciate it one day.


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Aug-25-2005 02:46:

quote:
Originally posted by zizack
No one wants to walk into a club at 11:00 and hear NU NRG tracks.


not true!! i do!

but yes, i agree with you. but i cant force myself to like something i dont. my tastes are always expanding, just awfully slowly

quote:
Originally posted by davemolina
by the time you make the jump to playing out, you'll have some good tracks to get you through it.


well actually, that jump is pretty close imo. so im in lots of trouble!!!

edit: theres no way im embracing prog. sorry.


Posted by Zack Roth on Aug-25-2005 03:21:

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
not true!! i do!

but yes, i agree with you. but i cant force myself to like something i dont. my tastes are always expanding, just awfully slowly



well actually, that jump is pretty close imo. so im in lots of trouble!!!

edit: theres no way im embracing prog. sorry.


well, when I was buying trance stuff, there was always some progressive tracks that i was into...basically slower trance....

I have no idea what the EDM scene is like in Australia, but here in NYC its domianted by house music.So, people walking into a club and trance being played is just not an option. I'd pay close attention to what the guys who open for bigger trance acts are playing and go from there.

Its weird...if 3 years ago somebody were to tell me I would drop trance all together and I'd be spinning hopuse msic I'd laugh my ass off. But you need to adapt if you want to play outside of the bedroom.


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Aug-25-2005 04:12:

quote:
Originally posted by zizack
but here in NYC its domianted by house music.


yeah, pretty much the same where im from. it makes me cry but id prefer to play in my room forever than EVER drop a house tune. i know. im useless!!

when and if the time comes im just gonna go on a buying frenzy for deeper trancers. thats all i can do really.


Posted by Zack Roth on Aug-25-2005 05:00:

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
yeah, pretty much the same where im from. it makes me cry but id prefer to play in my room forever than EVER drop a house tune. i know. im useless!!

when and if the time comes im just gonna go on a buying frenzy for deeper trancers. thats all i can do really.


haha, i'm not saying to go out and buy like straight up house tracks...but there is a lot of trancey stuff out there thats slower and housier that you can definitely get away with playing early in a night. Check out some of Markus Sculz's Coldharbour records....there's a lot of slower, less aggressive trancey sounds on those records that would work perfectly in an opening setting while staying true to the trance theme.


Posted by A.J. on Aug-25-2005 07:03:

^ ^ ^

or Max Graham


Posted by b i n k u n on Aug-25-2005 08:53:

i think all DJs should pay their dues....be it respecting the timeslot in both the music that should be played and the physical time that was assigned, or respecting other DJs and their equipment. Respect the scene, the music, the people involved...and everything would go much smoother.

on the topic of being a trance DJ and having no tunes to warm-up a crowd with....i have the fortunate (but still unfortunate) experience of never opening a night. On the contrary, when i started having the few gigs that I did, i would always have to CLOSE the night...meaning timeslots from 6-8am and so forth. not fun, but after awhile, i got to know the promoter and could ask for earlier timeslots so now whenever i go play for him, i never start later then 3am.

just to point out that it is still possible to get gigs without having warm-up tunes.


Posted by skip on Aug-25-2005 14:04:

quote:
Originally posted by miamitranceman
Funny when you think about it how you can place the approximate year of a DJ photo on whether CDJ's are present or not.




there's some denon(?) rackmount cd-players there at the bottom of the pic though!


Posted by Abhay on Aug-25-2005 14:08:

quote:
Originally posted by jmix
I hate that oakenfold guy


hey,

look at all that booze at the back....


did he really drink all that shit....? AND MIX?


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