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Posted by Protege on Aug-30-2005 22:11:

quote:
Originally posted by Demoted
The people that are tired of hearing horribly mixed sets of:

Forever Today
Adagio For Strings
Lethal Industry
Traffic

[camel fucking a toad next to people juggling fire interlude here]

Flight 643
Just Be
A Tear In The Open

[Tijs manages to do a god pose for a sustained 8 minutes through The Loves We Lost as it's his first marginally acceptable tune in the past two years but forgets he actually should be cueing up the next track]

[fireworks here]

set done.

Posted by KlePto on Aug-30-2005 23:05:

In my opinion I think you guys are alittle exagerated. Tiesto isn't all that bad, and he definitely spins plenty of tracks before anybody else does. Whether you like him or not he is still one of the most "POPULAR" djs around, and your telling me he does't spin any new stuff? Could you imagine how many promos this guy gets before anyone else. Of course he's always gonna spin some of his records cause that's what people go see him for, that's not all that difficult to understand, or is it? I do agree about the trainwrecks but I guess it usually isn't enough to ruin a set for me. Now this whole Sasha ableton thing is a little rediculous, I mean come on sasha's style is so different. Mixing at 115 to 135 bpms is so much easier than mixing at 140 and above, not to mention that usually there is so much more going on in a trance track compared to a prog one. If you ask me props and respect to both djs for all of what they've accomplished and for all of what they've done for electronic music.

Posted by Project 7 on Aug-30-2005 23:41:

Posted by Ted Promo on Aug-30-2005 23:50:

quote:
Originally posted by Project 7
dont listen to tiesto then, if he is so bad, why?

I don't listen. Well, that often. I stopped listening to him around 2003 after Nyana came out. Nyana was his last good record. Every now and then I catch a set by him, and it's pretty much the same as Just Be, just with a few other tracks thrown in. And I have seen the Tiesto In Concert movie which proved to me that he takes music secondary almost. Like background music to a circus or elevator music well... an elevator.

Posted by iammesol on Aug-31-2005 01:04:

As much of a Ti�sto fan I am, this wouldn't work. It'd be like trying to teach an Amish person to program computers. Tijs has all his talent in track selection and working the crowd, and theres nothing wrong with that. Good idea though.

Btw, its amazing how overrated Live and Ti�sto both are. This is a nice example of how haters can ruin a thread.

Before you say something... yes, i use Live everyday, and most likely was using it before all you Sasha addicts did.

Posted by vanditpandit on Aug-31-2005 07:27:

ha ha ha ...
tiesto threads are more interesting than watching WWE ...
bashing and bad- mouthing .... Tiesto is like HHH (triple H) ...
No good but Always a winner ....

Note:- PVD is "The rock" - People's champ.

Tiesto should try ableton .... if he likes it he shud use it ... or else
he wakes up in the morning just to find new vinyl boxes on his mail daily.

Posted by vanditpandit on Aug-31-2005 07:38:

Posted by Axolotyl on Aug-31-2005 08:08:

I find the idea of superstar DJs offensive. They all suck. Some more than others. But generally they are just half arsed producers peddling their own tracks and remixes to a crowd of fans who see them as some sort of god.

Fuck, its not even like mixing trance is all that technically difficult compared to breaks or techno and our number 1 ambassador cant even get it right ffs. Dont even start with the mixing in key crap. Most big jocks use CDJs with pitch control anyway. I suppose theres always the fact that 'tiest0r gets teh partay started right now' eh? right!?!!11 *sigh*

We need more live acts like NuNrg to take the stage. Trance is about a rackload of synths going spastic. I want to see a virus, JP8000 and giant fuck off mixing desk up there and feel the music penetrate the back of my skull. Fuck knows how it got to be this versache parade of eurotrash-posterboys.

Posted by basd on Aug-31-2005 08:24:

quote:
Originally posted by Axolotyl
I find the idea of superstar DJs offensive. They all suck. Some more than others. But generally they are just half arsed producers peddling their own tracks and remixes to a crowd of fans who see them as some sort of god.

Fuck, its not even like mixing trance is all that technically difficult compared to breaks or techno and our number 1 ambassador cant even get it right ffs. Dont even start with the mixing in key crap. Most big jocks use CDJs with pitch control anyway. I suppose theres always the fact that 'tiest0r gets teh partay started right now' eh? right!?!!11 *sigh*

We need more live acts like NuNrg to take the stage. Trance is about a rackload of synths going spastic. I want to see a virus, JP8000 and giant fuck off mixing desk up there and feel the music penetrate the back of my skull. Fuck knows how it got to be this versache parade of eurotrash-posterboys.

I wholeheartedly agree on this..

While I don't mind DJs getting some recognition for what they're doing, I find it appalling to see to what extent they're glorified nowadays. This does not just go for trance DJs though, it's more about DJs in general.

It's good to see there still are enough quality DJs that have some kind of modesty in them left though.. DJs that can get a party started without trying to be the center of the universe.

Posted by Mike_Foyle on Aug-31-2005 10:52:

quote:
Originally posted by miamitranceman
Ableton's overatted.

it's under-rated if anything, people seem to think its just a cheap beatmatching tool.

Posted by Toufas on Aug-31-2005 13:38:

quote:
Originally posted by Mike_Foyle
it's under-rated if anything, people seem to think its just a cheap beatmatching tool.

most ppl think its like atomix...

Posted by isoterra on Aug-31-2005 20:38:

the main thing i like about having superstar DJs is that they attract large crowds. i don't know what it is about large crowds but i like them.. i like seeing tens of screaming thousands of clubbers with their hands in the air at the same time.. it's an awesome sight

there are lesser known DJs out there i prefer to tiesto. but to be honest i'd rather go to a TIC event than see one of the aforementioned DJs at a small, low-key venue with a tiny crowd, weak soundsystem & budget lighting setup. even if the music may not be as good (though i still like most of what tijs plays) i'd find the whole experience/atmosphere more appealing somewhere bigger with a 'superstar' dj playing

Posted by Wasteland on Sep-01-2005 01:26:

Agreed, if you like top notch state of the art quality, go to tiesto. If you like vague settings, poor sound, no lights, experimental music, go see sasha

Besides.Abbleton is just a device to steer tracks. Nothing fancy or difficult about it, Just simplifies mixing...............

Posted by Toufas on Sep-01-2005 02:37:

quote:
Originally posted by Wasteland
Agreed, if you like top notch state of the art quality, go to tiesto. If you like vague settings, poor sound, no lights, experimental music, go see sasha

Besides.Abbleton is just a device to steer tracks. Nothing fancy or difficult about it, Just simplifies mixing...............

lmao you obviously dont have any clue about ableton....

go and see the pop idol, and let us watch cavemans like pvd and sasha...
ps: you will lose the sig soon
ps2: tiesto cant mix to save his life..

Posted by Clovis on Sep-01-2005 02:39:

quote:
Originally posted by Toufas
most ppl think its like atomix...

Hey, about what you said regarding Sasha, I will completely agree with you that he is not using the full capabilities of Live at all, but...does he have to? He uses it as a tool to acheive the sound he's looking for, and wasn't able to acheive with CDs...also, you think G&D are using it to its full potential?

Posted by basd on Sep-01-2005 07:12:

Posted by idoru on Sep-01-2005 07:25:

quote:
Originally posted by Wasteland
Agreed, if you like top notch state of the art quality, go to tiesto. If you like vague settings, poor sound, no lights, experimental music, go see sasha

Besides.Abbleton is just a device to steer tracks. Nothing fancy or difficult about it, Just simplifies mixing...............

I... I... I honestly don't know how to respond to this. This has to be the single post out of all that I've ever read in six years on different forums that has actually left me wanting to respond yet leaving me speechless at the same time.

There isn't even a smiley that can convey my emotion.

Posted by JasonThomas on Sep-01-2005 07:33:

quote:
Originally posted by idoru
I... I... I honestly don't know how to respond to this. This has to be the single post out of all that I've ever read in six years on different forums that has actually left me wanting to respond yet leaving me speechless at the same time.

There isn't even a smiley that can convey my emotion.

Posted by Clovis on Sep-01-2005 07:38:

Posted by Mike_Foyle on Sep-01-2005 07:54:

quote:
Originally posted by Wasteland
Just simplifies mixing...............

Posted by DRM on Sep-01-2005 08:42:

Posted by Toufas on Sep-01-2005 13:23:

quote:
Originally posted by Clovis86
Hey, about what you said regarding Sasha, I will completely agree with you that he is not using the full capabilities of Live at all, but...does he have to? He uses it as a tool to acheive the sound he's looking for, and wasn't able to acheive with CDs...also, you think G&D are using it to its full potential?

no they are not, but at least they are using it more than sasha, sasha is adding the same boring drum kick in almost all his transitions
i ve seen g&d using ableton for the melody and using cdjs to mix an acapella in....
well i am not saying that sasha sucks or anything like that, but he should stop "selling" himself as a pioneer of dance music etc etc.

Posted by Mike_Foyle on Sep-01-2005 13:49:

quote:
Originally posted by Toufas
he should stop "selling" himself as a pioneer of dance music etc etc.

hes not! he's just doing his thing the way he wants to do it, it's the critics who acuse him of selling himself!

Posted by Wasteland on Sep-01-2005 22:31:

Thanks guys! For agreeing and acknowledging that live5 is nothing new and basically a different version of magix music maker. Whenever we need samples/loops or something similar to enhance a mix to a crowd where 2 ppl out of 10.000 are really hearing it we will know what to use right? Luckily, our no.1 star knows how it works and will continue to drop massive, orgasmic and groundbreaking choons without even bothering to mix them in properly just to ensure that the other 9998 ppl know that a new killer is being dropped.

Posted by basd on Sep-01-2005 23:04:

quote:
Originally posted by Wasteland
Thanks guys! For agreeing and acknowledging that live5 is nothing new and basically a different version of magix music maker. Whenever we need samples/loops or something similar to enhance a mix to a crowd where 2 ppl out of 10.000 are really hearing it we will know what to use right? Luckily, our no.1 star knows how it works and will continue to drop massive, orgasmic and groundbreaking choons without even bothering to mix them in properly just to ensure that the other 9998 ppl know that a new killer is being dropped.

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