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^^^^ toward stereo ads
They're biased towards the Sunshine Girls.
But then, so are we. 
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| Originally posted by b4k-oz Well I disagree...I happen to think our education system is quite good and I have no regrets. Furthermore, I think it's quite valuable in building character... |
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such as the [b]Michael Ignatieff's[/r b] of today. The only time it faulters is when a person develops a condescending tone and thinks themselves too highly or tries to impose their belief to be above others. However, that trait can also be an individuals own insecurity or ignorance...and it often leads to suggestive retorts or comments "aside from....I haven't seen anyone...(meaning "you"--->anyone)...put forth a reasonably intelligent argument..." Ahahahahaa to think that a person believes themselves to be the judge of what is intelligent is quite amusing to read. |
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But then that's what this site is about...it's about amusement...through music, expression and laughter. This site is hardly the place for a real political debate    |
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| Originally posted by MarkT I agree with the groupthink that exists...but don't you get the impression that some people here act as if there IS a media conspiracy? I further feel that some people are implying that media bias is a signicant explanation (excuse) for Harper's inability to lead the Conservatives to power. Groupthink can be a problem...but then it's the opposition's job to combat that groupthink. More people here seem to be content in crying "media bias" than addressing Harper's shortcomings as party leader. The double standards are funny. There are those who claim that Liberal supporters are such only because they dislike Harper...yet there are Conservative supporters who don't mention Harper at all in their discussions, they just negatively react to Martin. Isn't this why the Conservatives are failing to win over the people? Because they're spending too much time crying "scandal" and not enough time telling us why we should vote Conservative? Don't tell me it's because the Liberals are crooks...I know what happened. Tell me why I should want Stephen Harper or Jack Layton as PM. |
I hope Belinda Stronach ends up being PM someday she has the qualities of a good leader. Intelligent, nice person, well then again she used to be my boss!
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| Originally posted by crazyadas I hope Belinda Stronach ends up being PM someday she has the qualities of a good leader. Intelligent, nice person, well then again she used to be my boss! |
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| Originally posted by DigiNut ... Anyway, I don't think mass media really has an "opposition", but if it does, it's Fox News and Rush Limbaugh, and look at the flak they get. |
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| Originally posted by MarkT FOX news rocks...who needs sitcoms and reality TV when you've got Fox news to laugh at...scary, lol. |
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a welcome addition to the leadership race, IMHO
from today's Toronto Star:
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| Ignatieff all but declares leadership bid Mar. 30, 2006. 06:59 PM CANADIAN PRESS OTTAWA � Michael Ignatieff all but declared his candidacy for the federal Liberal leadership Thursday, staking his claim as the natural heir to party icon Pierre Trudeau. The acclaimed scholar, author and one-time journalist modestly declaimed any right to be compared to Trudeau, the late philosopher king of Canadian politics. But, in a speech to an overflow crowd of about 250 students at the University of Ottawa, the cerebral, rookie Toronto MP presented himself as the thinking-person's candidate, an intellectual with strongly held beliefs on human rights, national unity and the merits of a strong central government. Ignatieff faced a small protest over his past musings on the use of torture and his support for the American-led invasion of Iraq. Four protesters stood silently throughout the speech, dressed in orange jumpsuits with black hoods draped over their heads in the manner of prisoners allegedly abused by American soldiers. But his 30-minute discourse and thoughtful replies to subsequent questions were generally warmly received. One mature student, despite disagreeing with Ignatieff's stance on Iraq, gushed that the putative candidate is "molded in the tradition of Pierre Trudeau." "I'm always flattered when those comparisons are made," Ignatieff responded. "But let's be very clear. There was one Pierre Trudeau and there will not be another." Ignatieff is expected late next week to formally join the race to succeed Paul Martin, who resigned after losing the Jan. 23 election. Martin's replacement will be chosen Dec. 2-3, but Thursday's speech was a campaign launch in all but name. "I don't think you'll have to wait long," Ignatieff told reporters who pressed him to announce his intentions. "I'm not in a Hamlet-like state of indecision." Ignatieff used the speech to lay out his vision for the country. He also attempted to rebut the criticisms that have dogged him since he returned to Canada last fall after almost 30 years out of the country. He said he's never been out of touch with his Canadian roots, returning frequently to teach, give lectures and make documentaries. He suggested his time spent at Harvard, in Britain and as a war correspondent have given him a more rounded perspective on Canada. "Sometimes you only see your country clearly from far away." On Iraq, Ignatieff said his support for the American invasion was based on his personal belief that former Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein was "genocidal tyrant" responsible for the mass murder of Kurds and Shia Muslims. As a Harvard professor, he said he had the luxury of voicing his personal views without worrying about public opinion or the potential impact on national unity of involving Canadian troops in a war that was particularly unpopular in Quebec. "Now that I'm an elected politician I'm deeply aware of those responsibilities," he told reporters, adding that public opinion would be "a significant factor" in any future decisions on deployment of the military. Ignatieff also unequivocally condemned the use of torture � even the mildest forms of coercive interrogation � to extract information from suspected terrorists. One student was unconvinced, citing passages from one of Ignatieff's books to suggest he once condoned tactics like sleep deprivation and hoods. In one of a series of interviews with the national media following Thursday's speech, Ignatieff shrugged off a suggestion that he is too cerebral to survive in the rough and tumble political arena. "It never pays to underestimate the intelligence of the Canadian voter," he told The Canadian Press. "Canadians, I think, want complexity, they want detail." During his first campaign last December and January, Ignatieff said he found "when you condescend to Canadians, when you give them sound bites and slogans, you get pushed off the door step." Ignatieff also tackled the criticism that it's presumptuous for someone who has been an MP for all of two months to think he could lead a national party and eventually the country. "The only honest answer here is that there have been men and women who trained all their lives to be prime minister and turned out to be really bad at it," he said. "And there have been people who didn't train very long who turned out to be good at it." In his speech, Ignatieff laid out his vision for Canada, the core of which revolves around ensuring the country remains united through the practice of what he dubbed "the federalism of recognition and respect." He said the federal government must respect provincial jurisdictions and recognize that not all provinces are equal but not the same. He endorsed giving Quebec a greater voice on the international stage to protect its unique language and culture. |
if this guy becomes liberal leader, i will laugh out loud everytime i hear an anti american remark from a liberal.
Did someone say Belinda? 'just got back from vacation... did I miss anything good here?
AJ
a timely bump of a 3+ yr old thread , I suppose
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| Originally posted by MarkT a timely bump of a 3+ yr old thread , I suppose |
Iggy still has the same problems he had last campaign. I really hope that the Liberals can find someone better. Yeah, he's a better choice than Rae or Dion, but he's just not enough of a realist to pose serious competition at a time like this.
i thought this thread was about me 
lol what ever happened to ultra-righty ShadoWolf
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| Originally posted by dEsidEL lol what ever happened to ultra-righty ShadoWolf |
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| Originally posted by b4k-oz BTW...Dear Fir3start3r You have officially surprised me. I would have never thought you were one to take cheap shots. One must always be careful when they make low blows...bc you lose face when your true flag colours show up. |
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| Originally posted by crazyadas I hope Belinda Stronach ends up being PM someday she has the qualities of a good leader. Intelligent, nice person, well then again she used to be my boss! |
It's one thing to bump a 3-year-old thread... it's quite another to reply to posts made 3 years ago. Could you folks please pay attention to the dates?
Half of those people don't even visit/post anymore.
If Ignatieff was PM, we'd be in Iraq.
Sometimes I miss Chretien, he was just like Harper... only funnier, and more arrogant and smug.
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| Originally posted by b4k-oz it's Pat. |
Re: Future PM of Canada
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| Originally posted by MarkT Here's someone who's ...not a businessman. |
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