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Originally posted by Cloudburst Zlatan?

that's what i thought of straight away is he still with Juve ?

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Originally posted by Ian^ that's what i thought of straight away is he still with Juve ?

He sure is.

So how does it feel you might not play in the world cup?

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Originally posted by Cloudburst He sure is. So how does it feel you might not play in the world cup?

heh, the thought hasn't even crossed my mind, I'm pretty confident we'll make it there, although a lot of the people are turning on Sven now

edit (bloody submit button)

now that the media have begun, so if we do fail one way or another, they can hound him out, happens every time

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Originally posted by Ian^ heh, the thought hasn't even crossed my mind, I'm pretty confident we'll make it there, although a lot of the people are turning on Sven now edit (bloody submit button) now that the media have begun, so if we do fail one way or another, they can hound him out, happens every time

Yeah, have faith in Svennis! After all he's Swedish.

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Originally posted by Cloudburst Yeah, have faith in Svennis! After all he's Swedish.

I do, he's been a legend ever since they first announed him live on tv

"there's the new england manager watching this game live, with his right hand man, mr grip"

needless to say only I could see the line in that

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Originally posted by Ian^ I do, he's been a legend ever since they first announed him live on tv "there's the new england manager watching this game live, with his right hand man, mr grip" needless to say only I could see the line in that

Tord Grip...

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Originally posted by Cloudburst Tord Grip...

aye. my mate stef who's got the sluttiest/dirtiest mind ever didn't shut up about it for months, asking everyone where their mr grip was, and if she could do it etc.

But yeah, I have faith in them, they're the best we can do atm, and they're doing the best they can, and for that you can't ask anything else

me mistakes...yikes !

is abramovic...the guy that ownz all the oil in russia

owner of the chelsea f.c.

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Originally posted by Palladium me mistakes...yikes ! is abramovic...the guy that ownz all the oil in russia owner of the chelsea f.c.

Aye, mr Abramovich, know who ur on about now

Actually it's closer to $7 dollars a gallon we in the UK pay. It costs me $90 US to fill the tank with petrol.

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Originally posted by Ian^ aye. my mate stef who's got the sluttiest/dirtiest mind ever didn't shut up about it for months, asking everyone where their mr grip was, and if she could do it etc.

Haha, kinky.

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Originally posted by Ian^ But yeah, I have faith in them, they're the best we can do atm, and they're doing the best they can, and for that you can't ask anything else

Well I hope you make it...so we can beat you later.

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Originally posted by smallSHEEP Actually it's closer to $7 dollars a gallon we in the UK pay. It costs me $90 US to fill the tank with petrol.

depends which area ur in and if ur in the countryside. there's some places selling for �1.17 a litre out towards Lincs/Notts

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Originally posted by Ian^ �1.17 a litre

Whoa. Time to put those battery powered rollerskates into action!

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Originally posted by Pariah Cleric Actually, wars help the economy.

Not this war (the War in Iraq), others wars it has like World War II, when manufacturing jobs were at there peak. However, manufacturing isn't like it used to be (with things like outsourcing, and robotics). The War in Iraq has actually attributed to our national debt, it's costed what..100 billion or more. We are stretched so thin that are resources are just so scarce, that this hurricane and these gas prices are hurting our economy, along with the war, which we might be in for another four years or more, depending on many factors like getting the Sunnis to agree on the direction of the government and the continued insurgency. Unfortunitely, it is looking more and more like Iraq is turning into a Civil War, and with this means we will be in there longer, and more money will ultimately have to be spent there. Attribute this, and a bunch of others things as I have listed...and you got an economy on the verge of destruction...

Here in good old small town Stevens Point USA, the gas station I work at is currently $3.19, and will be $3.44 tomorrow morning...

Currently it looks like it will be about $4 a gallon by the end of September here...

This entire situation is bullshit. I wanted to fill up the day before the prices rose 30 cents (Tuesday) and the local gas station turned off the low and mid grade pumps. They were only selling premium...until the next day. Shit like that should be illegal. Regardless I waited it out and paid 2.67 the day after, arriving at the gas station with my fuel light on.

There are also a bunch of firefighters at all the redlights around here holding boots and asking for donations (volunteer use or hurricane relief I'm not sure). I'm tempted to rig up a can with a sign on it that says "Gas donations" and hold it out as they walk by.

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Originally posted by smallSHEEP Whoa. Time to put those battery powered rollerskates into action!

pretty much, once you get past sleaford out that way, you're screwed for a good price, esp in the seaside resorts.

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Originally posted by DJ RJT Currently it looks like it will be about $4 a gallon by the end of September here...

57p a litre? Bargain! Snap it up.

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Originally posted by Fundamental 57p a litre? Bargain! Snap it up.

god help them if they have to come to europe

who cares what it costs in europe? this isn't europe. Note the disparities and why our prices are different:

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While the average light duty vehicle on US highways gets 21.6 miles per gallon (m.p.g.), according to a study by the Paris based International Energy Agency (IEA), in Paris, its European counterpart manages 32.1 m.p.g.

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That approach has given a special boost to diesel cars, which make up more than 40 percent of European car sales, compared with just 4 percent in the US. That is partly because the French government encourages the use of more- efficient diesel fuel by taxing it less heavily. Only in four European countries is diesel more expensive than gasoline, the way it is in America.

This isn't going to change overnight, Europeans are used to having cars with more MPG and smaller engines. When a price hike goes up in such a large number for gas but we still have the same low MPG cars then it hurts more than a slow increase with changing more efficient engines.

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But efficiency alone does not explain the huge disparity between fuel-use figures on either side of the Atlantic: European per capita consumption of gas and diesel stood at 286 liters a year in 2001, compared to 1,624 in the US, according to IEA figures. The nature of cities plays a role, too. "America has built its entire society around the car, which enabled suburbs," points out Mr. Dings. "European cities have denser centers where cars are often not practical." In Paris, for example, about half the trips people make are by foot, by bicycle, or on public transport, says UNEP's Mr. Fulton. In America, that figure is more like 20 percent.

With European cities built more for commuting short distances and more people using things like bikes there is less of a need to drive long distances and it offsets your high cost of gas with driving lots less. I drive 72 miles to work a day, can't do that on a bike.

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In Britain, the government takes 75 percent, and raises taxes by 5 percent above inflation every year (though it has forgone this year's rise in view of rocketing oil prices, and the French government has promised tax rebates this year to taxi drivers, truckers, fishermen, and others who depend heavily on gasoline.) On August 8, for example, the price of gas in the US, without taxes, would be $2.17, instead of $2.56; in Britain, it would be $1.97, instead of $6.06. "There is really good evidence that higher prices reduce traffic," says Stephen Glaister, a professor of transportation at London's Imperial College. "If fuel prices go up 10 percent ... fuel consumed goes down by about 7 percent, as people start to use fuel more efficiently, not accelerating so aggressively and switching to more fuel-efficient cars. It does change people's behavior."

Then you have taxes. European governments like to tax out the ass to reduce consumption, we can not do that because our society isn't yet built for mass public transportation or very short commutes so high taxes would just cripple the economy because no one could get to work.

Optimax petrol has now gone up to 100.9p per litre

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Originally posted by BadBadNeil With European cities built more for commuting short distances and more people using things like bikes there is less of a need to drive long distances and it offsets your high cost of gas with driving lots less. I drive 72 miles to work a day, can't do that on a bike.

Here's a tip for you, we don't ALL live in cities, infact although I have a few within an hour or so from me, it's very much a rural area, as is a lot of the country. We don't have a train station, reliable bus service or anything.

The article said in general a MUCH larger percentage of those in Europe have access to these things, they didn't account for every man woman and child. Just like here there are people who can ride a bike to work (my sister does) but a much larger percentage of us here have to drive a greater distance.

oh stfu whining americans... we're paying just over 8 usd a gallon here in norway so dont be such pussies..

There is some good out of this increase in gas prices. this is going to force the automobile industry to find a new and cheaper fuel. I wouldn't be surprised if we don't start seeing more electric vehicles or huge steps being taken towards hydrogen vehicles.

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