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Posted by Nrg2Nfinit on Jun-08-2006 15:45:

i dont see what elements ferry corsten's rock your body rock has of electro, there is none.. not even a cowbell


Posted by Nrg2Nfinit on Jun-08-2006 15:50:

quote:
Originally posted by Ishkur

The day someone makes trance with electro is the day we will call it electrotrance.



And here it is



Ghettoblasta - I.O.U


Posted by basd on Jun-08-2006 21:01:

quote:
Originally posted by paulandrews
Yes, I know that, one of the first records in which he was involved was house.

He did hardcore long before that.


Posted by LittleGoku on Jun-08-2006 21:40:

quote:
Originally posted by basd
He did hardcore long before that.


paul andrews = pwned


Posted by GoSpeedGo! on Jun-09-2006 07:22:

quote:
Originally posted by Ishkur
You can believe whatever you want, it still makes you wrong.


I love the way you think belief or an opinion makes people wrong or stupid. We should all worship you I guess.


Posted by GoSpeedGo! on Jun-09-2006 07:23:

quote:
Originally posted by LittleGoku
paul andrews = pwned



oh well.. show me the hardcore he was doing and when and then talk about pwnage.


Posted by GoSpeedGo! on Jun-09-2006 07:26:

quote:
Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit
i dont see what elements ferry corsten's rock your body rock has of electro, there is none.. not even a cowbell


I don�t see any house elements though.


Posted by Ishkur on Jun-09-2006 11:50:

quote:
Originally posted by paulandrews
I love the way you think belief or an opinion makes people wrong or stupid.


Because opinions not based on facts or reality can be wrong. They're proven wrong all the time.


Posted by Mike_Foyle on Jun-09-2006 12:05:

quote:
Originally posted by Dave Clarke
Typing a shit buzz-word compound onto the front of a mixmag magazine does not make a genre exist.


well what does then? genres dont just come from knowwhere. if someone makes a cd which they feel is best described as electro trance then they have just invented a genre of music. whether or not it has your seal of approval doesnt matter.


Posted by GoSpeedGo! on Jun-09-2006 12:09:

quote:
Originally posted by Ishkur
Because opinions not based on facts or reality can be wrong. They're proven wrong all the time.


That�s a nice example of hypocrisy then. You haven�t said any fact that would support your opinion that Rock Your Body Rock is house.


Posted by Ishkur on Jun-09-2006 13:36:

quote:
Originally posted by paulandrews
That�s a nice example of hypocrisy then. You haven�t said any fact that would support your opinion that Rock Your Body Rock is house.



Posted by sandstorm03 on Jun-09-2006 13:55:

quote:
I�m DJing producing and remixing under Ferry Corsten now but if people only know me for trance I would be disappointed because that�s too obvious.� Corsten�s first record under his own name was �Punk� which he originally released under an alias. He explains, �It sounded like a cool record and I released it at first under a different name. People took it the way it was and responded in an honest way rather than receiving it as a Ferry Corsten record. As soon as the hype was complete and everyone was playing it like Paul Van Dyk I took off the disguise and everyone said �wow this is cool, we didn�t expect it� so in a way the name change created the right amount of respect.�


Posted by Nrg2Nfinit on Jun-09-2006 15:31:

quote:
Originally posted by paulandrews
That�s a nice example of hypocrisy then. You haven�t said any fact that would support your opinion that Rock Your Body Rock is house.



i dunno i wuld consider it trance just like benassi, you have that frequency adjustment on the build up (which is very common for house buildups usually used for samples though) this is a synth and therefore should probably be considered trance

to each his own though, i still cant figure out the difference between freestyle and electro at times


Posted by Push2005 on Jun-30-2006 21:33:

Well, I felt like bumping this thread because maybe electro trance *might* exist, or is a newborn genre...

I haven't read that much of this thread before, because once Ishkur gets involved everything is screwed up.
Some ppl mentioned the recent Ferry tracks as being electro trance, or declined it.

But recently I found this new track of Precursor and made a cut of it

--> Sample here

I tend to think this really is like electro trance, and if it isn't, then what is it anyway :s

Enlighten me plz


Posted by Tayfoon on Jun-30-2006 21:52:

Precursor is tech trance you mongol


If you cant tell the difference between tech and electro then you need to go out more


Posted by RapidFire on Jun-30-2006 21:57:

quote:
Originally posted by Tayfoon
If you cant tell the difference between tech and electro then you need to go out more


I think its quite the opposite actually


Posted by Push2005 on Jun-30-2006 22:00:

quote:
Originally posted by Tayfoon
Precursor is tech trance you mongol


If you cant tell the difference between tech and electro then you need to go out more


Have you actually LISTENED to the sample ?? It's anything BUT techtrance. So who's the mongol here !


Posted by GoSpeedGo! on Jun-30-2006 22:06:

Navigator, yes.

That�s electro trance.


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Jun-30-2006 22:07:

You could argue that Ferry's Punk is electrotrance... it has a robot voice and breakbeats. However, I'm in agreement here with Ishkur that Ferry's current sound is more house than anything else.


Posted by Push2005 on Jun-30-2006 22:12:

Hmm maybe so... But people denied the existance of electro trance.

Fact: Electro house exists
Fact: Electro house doesn't have that much in common anymore with the real original electro

So my question is, as a derivative of electrohouse, maybe electotrance will exist ? That sample I posted clearly had the same bassline like some electrohouse tracks have; and the other elements are tranzy...

So I was just WONDERING; no need to bash me here like that fool did 5 posts above... And please do take the effort to listen to the sample and comment why or why not it should be named electrotrance, keeping in mind electrohouse exists.


Posted by GoSpeedGo! on Jun-30-2006 22:19:

quote:
Ferry: You must see the �L.E.F.� album as the follow up of the �Right Of Way� album. With the �Right Of Way� album I decided to make a step into a new direction. I continued with the same sound direction with the new album. But I have to say that the �L.E.F.� album is more, let�s say a �fine tuning� of the things that I started with the �Right Of Way� album. You have to think about tracks in a style like �Rock Your Body, Rock�, the more rougher sound, which is a mixture of the trance sound and a wink to electro and techno. That�s the �L.E.F.� album!



I guess the artist himself should know the best what he�s doing.


Posted by montana on Jun-30-2006 22:54:

There is no such thing as electrohouse, and even if there was, it wouldn't be the things that are being labeled as electrohouse.


Posted by GoSpeedGo! on Jun-30-2006 22:59:

quote:
Originally posted by montana
There is no such thing as electrohouse, and even if there was, it wouldn't be the things that are being labeled as electrohouse.


http://www.juno.co.uk/electro-house/today/


Posted by basd on Jun-30-2006 23:05:

quote:
Originally posted by paulandrews
http://www.juno.co.uk/electro-house/today/

And that proves what?


Posted by GoSpeedGo! on Jun-30-2006 23:06:

quote:
Originally posted by basd
And that proves what?


Electro house exists.


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